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Title: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: RD on 20/04/2017 01:22:18
  :o
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/04/2017 18:50:30
I'm not sure he's that bright.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: alancalverd on 22/04/2017 17:02:55
Not even a farm vet or customs inspector would shove a hand up that arse, never mind a ventriloquist..
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: RD on 22/04/2017 18:07:51
Vlad smiling isn't very convincing (https://youtu.be/ohmajJTcpNk?t=2m37s) , ( maybe because he doesn't smile IRL ).
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: puppypower on 23/04/2017 12:15:22
Too many people expect their leaders to perform like actors, playing the role of statesman. Trump does not play by these rules. He is bored with the horse and pony show. He is a man of action, behind the scenes and does not pretend  just for the camera. 

Two different skill sets are required to be a political leader in the modern era. When you run for office, it is better to be an actor, controlled by writers, directors, producers. These handlers might set up a mud slinging TV drama, with the candidate playing the role of holier than thou. This appeals to the expectations of the masses, who have been conditioned, using media templates. Money is very important for the base conditioning and the directed sales pitch of the actor.

Political actor skills, although critical for modern campaigns, does not always translate to best on the job skills, since the latter requires applied skills, more than acting skills. While the best applied skills may not translate to the best acting skills needed for campaigns. 

As an example, your favorite TV doctor becomes what people expect from an ideal doctor, even though that person has no medical degree. He or she is a product of staged direction and mass conditioning. This reinforced expectation is media driven; money and promotion, and will make some people think that a real surgeon is not qualified, because he does not seem to know how to hold the knife with flare.

Trump knows the media is full of crap and is really a business in it for the money. They benefit by actors playing the role of statesmen, since this creates and supports a lot of media related jobs. Trump is on the media union crap list because he has applied skills and is not doing a good actor job. He refuses to hire all the needed illusionists to satisfy mass expectations that have been already conditioned into the herd. Trump is not a friend of Hollywood who promotes their own kind.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 23/04/2017 14:08:40
Too many people expect their leaders to perform like actors, playing the role of statesman. Trump does not play by these rules. He is bored with the horse and pony show. He is a man of action, behind the scenes and does not pretend  just for the camera. 

Two different skill sets are required to be a political leader in the modern era. When you run for office, it is better to be an actor, controlled by writers, directors, producers. These handlers might set up a mud slinging TV drama, with the candidate playing the role of holier than thou. This appeals to the expectations of the masses, who have been conditioned, using media templates. Money is very important for the base conditioning and the directed sales pitch of the actor.

Political actor skills, although critical for modern campaigns, does not always translate to best on the job skills, since the latter requires applied skills, more than acting skills. While the best applied skills may not translate to the best acting skills needed for campaigns. 

As an example, your favorite TV doctor becomes what people expect from an ideal doctor, even though that person has no medical degree. He or she is a product of staged direction and mass conditioning. This reinforced expectation is media driven; money and promotion, and will make some people think that a real surgeon is not qualified, because he does not seem to know how to hold the knife with flare.

Trump knows the media is full of crap and is really a business in it for the money. They benefit by actors playing the role of statesmen, since this creates and supports a lot of media related jobs. Trump is on the media union crap list because he has applied skills and is not doing a good actor job. He refuses to hire all the needed illusionists to satisfy mass expectations that have been already conditioned into the herd. Trump is not a friend of Hollywood who promotes their own kind.
So you don't think that pretending his election parade was bigger than Obama's was a horse + pony show?
What about his insane claims that GCHQ bugged his apprtment?
Wasn't that just media bait?
And then there's the wall.
The one that he was going o make Mexico pay for.
Don't you understand that he never thought that would really happen- he was just making noises to get votes.
That's acting, not politics.

Then there's the "man of action" claim.
Yeah- sure- as long as you count golf as "action".
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: RD on 19/04/2018 01:24:37
Not real-time & Not Safe For Work ...
 
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Billeyjoe on 19/04/2018 12:38:40
As far as I know Trump is a good guy. :)
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: opportunity on 19/04/2018 13:36:42
Muppets are cool:


https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=72959.0


In fact, I don't think the idea of a leader in a democracy could work if the leader didn't already do the "string-dance", right....and maybe be a few steps ahead at the same time....... ::)


Fave:



Trump is no Kermit the Frog, agreed, but Kermit the Frog wasn't asked to fix what appears to be decades of promises to make the rest of the world great the first time at the expense of America and the idea of freedom.

The clear problem with "freedom" is knowing how to reign in "hell" though......."abusers" of freedom........which is why the US appears heavy with rules and regulations. The rules and regulations are nothing compared to the freedom people have in the US......"and that's the problem"....."immigration".

But try telling that to a physicist who's aiming for a nobel prize about replicating the big bang in a lab with his bespoke theory at Cambridge?
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/04/2018 14:57:18
The rules and regulations are nothing compared to the freedom people have in the US......"and that's the problem"....."immigration".

Too true. Go home, paleface.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: opportunity on 19/04/2018 15:02:33
You raise a good point.

"England" had no history before the "Arthurian" legends.

Before that it was "Rome"....."England's" "Indians".

Anything else to say?


Alancalverd....how's you're day going. Could it get any better?


Does "Rome" really need "England"? Seriosuly, right?

I know what I would say.

I would use "enlgish" terms, and the words would be cheap, like they should be.

I will still keep using English, because I know how cheap it is.

"paleface"? Really?

What you've said justifies an investigation, beyond someone posting a "Kermit the frog" video.


Sure, this is a "light" section, but that's compared to "physics".

Maybe we should learn to not use words and terms even on this so-called sub-physics level that might offend people?


Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/04/2018 21:03:06
Anything else to say?
Yes.
These passages from your post make no sense
Before that it was "Rome"....."England's" "Indians".
Does "Rome" really need "England"? Seriosuly, right?
Does "Rome" really need "England"? Seriosuly, right?

I know what I would say.

I would use "enlgish" terms, and the words would be cheap, like they should be.

I will still keep using English, because I know how cheap it is.

"paleface"? Really?

What you've said justifies an investigation, beyond someone posting a "Kermit the frog" video.


Sure, this is a "light" section, but that's compared to "physics".

Maybe we should learn to not use words and terms even on this so-called sub-physics level that might offend people?

But apart from that it's...
Still not great.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/04/2018 21:04:59
As far as I know Trump is a good guy. :)
You may have been misled by the lying misogynistic job-exporting multiply bankrupt racist failed businessman.
Or maybe that's what you consider "good"; I don't know.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: opportunity on 23/04/2018 15:24:20
Is Donald Trump Pinocchio?

What's a ventriloquist?

What's a "dummy"

Have we looked at these ideas?

Am I going to be given an extra 30 days in happy-acres? (colin2b...take a look).


Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: opportunity on 16/05/2018 14:12:34
What if we talk about the Ventriloquist?

What's the dummy saying?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Thebox on 16/05/2018 15:36:15
What if we talk about the Ventriloquist?

What's the dummy saying?

Any ideas?
The dummy would say :

Be people , be like people, be individual and equal .
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bill S on 20/05/2018 19:09:26
Quote
As far as I know Trump is a good guy.

A lot of people thought that about Hitler; many still do.  Chacun ŗ son gout.  Define "good"!
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: PmbPhy on 21/05/2018 08:37:09
All I know is that Trump is an evil SOB - By definition.

The term Antichrist comes to mind.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Bill S on 21/05/2018 12:47:50
My wife says the Antichrist would be taller and better looking!
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: opportunity on 21/05/2018 12:58:02
I'm not a Hobbit, so things are good right now...Ö.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Zer0 on 04/06/2018 23:33:59
Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Yes.

And then who's the Ventriloquist ?
Majority of American Citizens.


Thanks & Credits - David Strassman(channel)/YouTube.
(*Warning: Explicit Abusive Profane content, not 4 kids.)


P.S. - Accept Constitution, Respect Democracy.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: RD on 05/06/2018 00:46:57
And then who's the Ventriloquist ?
Majority of American Citizens.

Quote from: newsweek.com
Revised election results in December 2016 showed that Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump.
Clinton obtained 48.2 percent of the vote while Trump received 46.1 percent, CNN reported in December 2016 ...
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-voted-trump-president-784019
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Thebox on 05/06/2018 10:48:31
Mr Trump has a huge IQ, Mr trump is a very clever man, devious and all.  I am sure if there was somebody with their hand inside my Trump, he would be conspiring to beat them and get them to remove their hand.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Milner on 07/06/2018 12:34:41
If you say Trump is a ventriloquist's dummy, you have to say who is the ventriloquist too. Otherwise, there isn't anything to discuss really. Putin? lol
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: syhprum on 14/06/2018 16:25:29
I would name the ventriloquist as Netanyahu who seems to give the orders
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: jeffreyH on 22/06/2018 18:46:58
By all accounts Trump is a very stable genius. No wait! That was him talking about himself. Probably Rupert Murdoch has his hand up Trump's backside. Not because he is a ventriloquist though. He just enjoys it. Especially when Jerry isn't around.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: Zer0 on 25/06/2018 05:31:52
And then who's the Ventriloquist ?
Majority of American Citizens.

Quote from: newsweek.com
Revised election results in December 2016 showed that Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump.
Clinton obtained 48.2 percent of the vote while Trump received 46.1 percent, CNN reported in December 2016 ...
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-voted-trump-president-784019

' Majority of American Citizens. ' - ❌(incorrect statement)
Thanks for pointing that out RD.

Quote :-
" Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton last night (Nov. 8) to become the 45th President of the United States. The man who will be sworn into office on Jan. 20, 2017 was picked to lose in almost every mainstream projection, leading up to the shocking news that he not only won, but soundly defeated Clinton. Presidential elections are decided by capturing the majority of the United Statesí 538 electoral votes; at publication time, Trump led Clinton 279 to 218, thus topping the 270 needed for said majority.

But what does that all mean? You might be hearing a lot of talk about how Clinton actually won the popular vote. At publication time, she indeed led Trump by about 175,000 votes, according to the Associated Press. As Clinton-friendly West Coast votes continue to be counted, that margin figures to increase. So if more people voted for Clinton, why did Trump win the election?

This is where the United States Electoral College comes in. Itís been in place since the Constitution was first drawn up and, ideally, itís supposed to protect against a lot of perceived problems that would come from a straight-up popular vote. Each state is given a share of the United Statesí 538 electoral votes based off its population, with totals ranging from Californiaís 55 to a number of states with only three.

This might seem like a wide margin, but in the big picture, it supposedly levels the playing field for sparsely-populated states like Wyoming and North Dakota, which could see even less national attention if their less-than-a-million populations were siphoned into the United Statesí 300 million-plus electorate. The country is undoubtedly a melting pot of social groups, and by giving a unique say to each state, the Electoral College is supposed to foster individual interests that would be swallowed up in a winner-take-all affair.

Hillary won more votes overall, but a multitude of them came from the same few states, like California and New York. Regardless of how decisively you win them, you can only win them one time, and thereís a set amount of electoral votes you earn. Trumpís grand total of votes was spread more evenly throughout the country and he won many more states, albeit often by a slim margin.

Potentially, this would be the fifth time a candidate has won the popular vote but failed to win the election. Clintonís most recent company is fellow Democrat Al Gore, whose supporters outvoted George W. Bushís in 2000, but narrowly lost the electoral vote via the highly-contested state of Florida. Low voter turnout has often been tied to such elections and indeed, that factor has also come into play this year: When Trumpís final count is tallied, itís possible heíll have earned fewer popular votes than John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012, his two Republican predecessors, both of whom lost to Barack Obama.

To win this year, Trump didnít necessarily win the most votes, but he won the most votes in the right places. Under the Electoral College, thatís what matters. "

Copyrights & Credits - https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7572638/electoral-college-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-2016-president-election-popular-vote

P.S. - Hopefully the Majority, n Wishfully all American Citizens would respect n keep faith in their Great Constitution n not revolt against it.
Obviously Americans are Wise enough not to push their Great Country into a civil war, clearly another ' Syria in the making ' wouldn't be a good thing for the international community & a Disaster for the World.
Title: Re: Is Donald Trump a ventriloquist's dummy ?
Post by: RD on 06/06/2019 19:31:37
Face swap technology v3.0 ...