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Title: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 16/08/2018 15:10:33
Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides.
In the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides ranges from 5 to 21 meters.
4-5 times the force of gravity, or every day the shape of the shoreline changes?
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Janus on 16/08/2018 15:23:19
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features.  With inlets, the rising water has to flow in from the Ocean. The slope of the beach, etc also has an effect.
Just because you don't grasp how a Moon gravity caused tide can produce the tidal activity we see along coastlines, Does not mean there is a flaw in the Moon tidal explanation.
"I don't understand it" is not a refutation.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 16/08/2018 17:42:39
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features.  With inlets, the rising water has to flow in from the Ocean. The slope of the beach, etc also has an effect.
Just because you don't grasp how a Moon gravity caused tide can produce the tidal activity we see along coastlines, Does not mean there is a flaw in the Moon tidal explanation.
"I don't understand it" is not a refutation.
Does the coastline change every day?
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/08/2018 19:38:23
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features.  With inlets, the rising water has to flow in from the Ocean. The slope of the beach, etc also has an effect.
Just because you don't grasp how a Moon gravity caused tide can produce the tidal activity we see along coastlines, Does not mean there is a flaw in the Moon tidal explanation.
"I don't understand it" is not a refutation.
Does the coastline change every day?
Yes, from the point of view of someone who is on either the Moon or the Sun; it moves about.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Janus on 17/08/2018 04:21:54
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features.  With inlets, the rising water has to flow in from the Ocean. The slope of the beach, etc also has an effect.
Just because you don't grasp how a Moon gravity caused tide can produce the tidal activity we see along coastlines, Does not mean there is a flaw in the Moon tidal explanation.
"I don't understand it" is not a refutation.
Does the coastline change every day?
Tides are the result of both the Moon's and Sun's gravity, This is why we have Neap and Spring tides.  Thus the relative positions of the Sun and Moon determine what over all magnitude you will get for a tide.   Then you also have to consider that the Earth' axis is tilted at some 23 degrees to the ecliptic and the Moon's orbit is tilted 5 degrees to the ecliptic.  Thus the High points of the tidal bulge shift North and South over the course of a year.    So yes, you do expect variations in the tides from day to day.   The large difference in tides for the Bay of Fundy is due to a tidal resonance.  Due to its length, the time it take for the tide to move in and out of the bay  closely matches the period between high tides.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 17/08/2018 04:53:04
Tidal resonance is a phenomenon of nature:
1. Which no one has seen.
2. Which is not the author.
3. Which is not on the Internet.
4. Which is not in nature.
5. Which occurs during the earthquake.
6. Which is not formed every day.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/08/2018 07:29:41
Tidal resonance is a phenomenon of nature:
1. Which no one has seen.
Yes they have.
It can, for example, be seen at Fundy.
3. Which is not on the Internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_resonance
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Colin2B on 17/08/2018 08:51:06
Tidal resonance is a phenomenon of nature:
1. Which no one has seen.
2. Which is not the author.
3. Which is not on the Internet.
4. Which is not in nature.
5. Which occurs during the earthquake.
6. Which is not formed every day.
Why do you insist on spreading false information.
Read the reply by @Bored chemist and try to understand it.

You have been given plenty of information explaining why your ideas are wrong. If you insist on posting false information your posting rights will be restricted.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 20/08/2018 23:03:09
Tidal resonance is a phenomenon of nature:
1. Which no one has seen.
It can, for example, be seen at Fundy.
You can give more detailed comments:
1. The cause of the oscillation.
2. The frequency of oscillation.
3. Speed of water movement.
4. Direction of oscillation (north, south)
5. The shape of the oscillation (wave, current).
6. The season of fluctuation (spring, winter).
7. Who saw the fluctuations (astronauts, sailors).
8. Who is the author of the theory of tidal resonance.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/08/2018 19:51:27
1. The cause of the oscillation.
The sun and moon pulling on stuff.
(you already knew that)


2. The frequency of oscillation.
About 24 hrs 25 min.
(you already knew that)
3. Speed of water movement.
It obviously depends on the latitude
(you already knew that)

4. Direction of oscillation (north, south)
It depends on the local geography.
(you already knew that)

5. The shape of the oscillation (wave, current).
Again it depends on local geography
(you already knew that)
6. The season of fluctuation (spring, winter).
All year round.
(you already knew that)
7. Who saw the fluctuations (astronauts, sailors).
Everybody who was in a position to look.
(you already knew that)

8. The author of the theory
Newton (among others
(you already knew that)
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 21/08/2018 20:39:50
Tidal resonance is a phenomenon of nature:
1. Which no one has seen.
It can, for example, be seen at Fundy.
You can give more detailed comments:
1.
2. The frequency of oscillation.
3. Speed of water movement.
4. Direction of oscillation (north, south)
5. The shape of the oscillation (wave, current).
6.
7. Who saw the fluctuations (astronauts, sailors).
8. Who is the author of the theory of tidal resonance.
You answered only two questions
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/08/2018 21:00:54
You answered only two questions
Learn to count, or stop being silly.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 22/08/2018 12:07:49
8. Кто автор теории приливного резонанса.
Why in encyclopedias and dictionaries, nothing is written about tidal resonance. And who is the author of tidal resonance.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/geology-and-oceanography/geology-and-oceanography/tides
https://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides.html
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: The Spoon on 22/08/2018 14:02:09
8. Кто автор теории приливного резонанса.
Why in encyclopedias and dictionaries, nothing is written about tidal resonance. And who is the author of tidal resonance.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/geology-and-oceanography/geology-and-oceanography/tides
https://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides.html
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tidal+resonance&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB754GB754&oq=tidal+resonance&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Stop lying and stop posting nonsense.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 27/08/2018 20:01:56
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features. 
One of the deep delusions in the theory of tides is the assertion that the height of the tides depends on the shape of the shore.
The height of the tides depends only on the size and speed of the tidal wave.
The average speed of a tidal wave in the stationary water of the Fundy Bay is about 10 km / h.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig7.jpg
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: The Spoon on 27/08/2018 20:11:57
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features. 
One of the deep delusions in the theory of tides is the assertion that the height of the tides depends on the shape of the shore.
The height of the tides depends only on the size and speed of the tidal wave.
The average speed of a tidal wave in the stationary water of the Fundy Bay is about 10 km / h.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig7.jpg

You have evidently never sailed in the Bristol Channel o the Solent. Why do you post this rubbish?
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Thebox on 27/08/2018 20:12:25
Maybe in the day time, there is an expansion then at night a contraction...thermodynamics ye know...
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: The Spoon on 27/08/2018 20:45:27
Maybe in the day time, there is an expansion then at night a contraction...thermodynamics ye know...
That is not how tides work. Hence, low tides during the day and vice versa.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 27/08/2018 21:11:20
You have evidently never sailed in the Bristol Channel o the Solent. Why do you post this rubbish?
In your opinion, in order to study the Channel of La Manche, you must cross the English Channel.
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: The Spoon on 27/08/2018 21:14:12
You have evidently never sailed in the Bristol Channel o the Solent. Why do you post this rubbish?
In your opinion, in order to study the Channel of La Manche, you must cross the English Channel.
You have completely missed the point yet again...
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 27/08/2018 21:42:51
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features. 
One of the deep delusions in the theory of tides is the assertion that the height of the tides depends on the shape of the shore.
The height of the tides depends only on the size and speed of the tidal wave.
The average speed of a tidal wave in the stationary water of the Fundy Bay is about 10 km / h.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig7.jpg
https://youtu.be/Cm3zm8g-QlM
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: The Spoon on 27/08/2018 21:45:52
While the Moon creates the tidal bulge, how that exhibits itself where land meets sea depends on the coastal features. 
One of the deep delusions in the theory of tides is the assertion that the height of the tides depends on the shape of the shore.
The height of the tides depends only on the size and speed of the tidal wave.
The average speed of a tidal wave in the stationary water of the Fundy Bay is about 10 km / h.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig7.jpg
https://youtu.be/Cm3zm8g-QlM
And this supports your ideas how?
Title: Re: Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 12/09/2018 20:17:58
Why in some bays a large range of amplitude of tides.
In the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides ranges from 5 to 21 meters.
4-5 times the force of gravity, or every day the shape of the shoreline changes?
Who in this forum is well prepared to comment on this mystery of nature.