Tidal forces and gravity are not the source of energy, rotation is.Sorry
I see it differently.
Gravity force and tidal creates energy.
Rotation is a direct outcome of gravity force.
Newton has set the gravity force as:
The Kinetic energy is directly affected by the orbital velocity.
While that orbital velocity is fully affected by the gravity force.
F = M V^2 / r
So, Newton gravity force which had been set ONLY by mass and radius (and the constant G), has a direct impact on the orbital velocity and that orbital velocity sets the Kinetic orbital energy.
Therefore, The kinetic energy is a direct outcome of the gravity force and not the other way.
Same issue with the Potential kinetic
Ep = m G h
So, even the potential energy is a direct outcome of mass and distance (or radius). As the gravity force is a direct outcome of mass and radius - the potential energy is also an outcome of gravity force.
No, what I'm saying is that energy transformation is all that gravity can do. It can't create energy.I disagree
Gravity force can create new energy
How did you get the 29% for the BH?QuoteYou have to agree that once an object has lost its rotation energy, than it also should lose its gravity force.It will not lose all of its gravity. The rotation of an object contains kinetic energy. Due to mass-energy equivalence, that energy also has a mass. That resulting mass increases the strength of the gravitational field. This additional gravity will be extremely tiny compared to the gravity produced by the object's rest mass in most cases (like for planets and stars). In the case of a black hole with the maximum possible rotation rate, however, 29% of its mass-energy will be contained in that rotation (which is fairly significant). So if some of the rotation (and therefore energy) of the hole is extracted, the overall energy content (and therefore mass) of the hole is reduced.
How could it be?
What should be the gravity lost in the Moon which have already lost its rotate energy?
Please show the formula which links the rotate energy to gravity force.
I never said that an object's entire gravitational field is generated by rotation,Again - Please show the formula which links between the two.
If that was true, then we would have recognized long ago that conservation of energy was wrong. But that's not true. Force doesn't generate energy. It only changes its form.It seems to me that you are using the conservation of energy at the wrong place.
I have already discussed about Newton formula that shows that Gravity generates energy.
It will be affected, but the object's total energy will be unchanged. All that is happening is that some of the object's gravitational potential energy is being converted into kinetic energy.If I understand you correctly, you claim that the total rotation energy (Kinetic + potential) is fixed.
So, the gravity just transfers the energy from one to the other.
This is incorrect.
Gravity works locally.
So, if we take an object to the infinity - we can also claim that its potential energy is infinite.
Just based on this idea we can claim that the energy in our Universe is infinity.
In reality - if it is far enough, it will not be affected by the gravity force any more.
So, although the potential energy should be infinite, the gravity force between those two objects at a distance of infinite is virtually zero and therefore there is no meaning for that Potential energy.
On the other way, I could claim that the virtual pair are coming from the infinity.
So, at the moment of creation, their infinite potential energy had been transformed into Kinetic energy.
I assume that if you give the possibility to transform energy between kinetic and potential than you should also agree with that sort of idea.