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The book I'm reading right now has made the claim that the future already exists.
Quote from: Eric A. Taylor on 17/03/2011 11:02:19The book I'm reading right now has made the claim that the future already exists.Eric, if I may say some, as far as Relativity goes, there is no present, whilst past and future exist under the same “celestial vault” and are both physically treated on the same footing. I am here referring to the four-dimensional continuum advocated by Minkowski and fully endorsed by Einstein. Either, take it or leave it.As for the rest, I think some scientists are heavily speculating perhaps more than some chaps like myself. The only difference being, they have a wider audience.
The book I'm reading right now has made the claim that the future already exists. The idea is that all of space-time (past, present and future) exists as a lump. The example given was a loaf of bread. Each location and each event are points within the loaf of bread. The events that happen at the same time according to two different observers depends on how they are moving relative to one another. This was given as an explanation of Relativity. So if one observer is moving near the speed of light he or she will say that two events happened quite a long time apart when two stationary observers will say they happened at the same time. This would mean that someone is seeing what another would call the future.This bothered me because it seemed to suggest that the future is already set in stone precluding free will. The future is just as unchangeable as the past. No matter how hard I try I'll never prevent the launch of Challenger on 28 January 1986.There is another theory I've never been comfortable with that my idea settles. The theory states that anytime something happens that has a chance of turning out in more than one way a new universe is created where all of the possibilities happen. I've never liked the idea of new universes popping into being every time someone decided between wearing the blue or the green shirt today.But what if space-time was like a maze. One which you can not see what's ahead and you can only go one way. Reaching a dead end in the maze means your own end. When you decide to turn left or right in a maze you are not creating more maze, it's already there but you will never see that part of the maze you didn't take.So in November 2012 I'll be faced with an intersection of maze where I can vote for Obama or whoever the Republican is. Down one corridor is a reality where Obama wins a second term and the other where the Republican wins. Both corridors exist but we'll only see the results of one.
If your god gave man free will, and can also see the future, then he didn't give man free will. Think about it.
With free will your actions would be unpredictable, therefore god would not be able to see your future. If he knows what you will do then how is it free will?
If you know someone you will know how they will act, it's still their free choice to do so.
Quote from: Wiybit on 28/03/2011 02:47:53If you know someone you will know how they will act, it's still their free choice to do so.If god is all knowing, then it already knows when it creates you a certain way exactly how you will be and think,
and therefore exactly what you will do with your "free will" all the way until you die, since it sees all of time. So you have no choice in the matter, it's god that makes every decision you will ever make when it creates you.
Therefore, if god knows the future then you do not have free will.
The bible will disagree, for while god made us and knows us, an eliment of choice is still present.
No sorry cannot agree, your basically saying we are all god.
Again God seeing the future does not prohibit free choice