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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #40 on: 25/01/2019 23:12:09 »
In that case it is a certain statement , that you are so sure of your version of global warming, that you omit problematic data like a period of 5 years that had a certain and outlined cooling. This is not sun spots and not el nino as for 30 years here in the uk we had no snowfall in the midst of global warming, and then suddenly we have 5 years of cooling. I think you are unwilling to accept that this is quite a significant event. I am sure that you have heard of snowball earth and how global warming could lead to global cooling and a new ice age.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #41 on: 25/01/2019 23:30:13 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 23:12:09
In that case it is a certain statement , that you are so sure of your version of global warming

What do you think my version of global warming is?

Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 23:12:09
that you omit problematic data like a period of 5 years that had a certain and outlined cooling.

Are you talking about the period roughly from 2010 to 2015? That data is not omitted from the NASA graphs. Look at the "Monthly Mean Global Surface Temperature" graph. It does indeed show a decrease in average temperature relative to the spike right at 2010. Then during 2016, we get another big jump in temperature that's higher than any other previous years and it has remained higher on average than that relatively cool period ever since then.

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This is not sun spots and not el nino as for 30 years here in the uk we had no snowfall in the midst of global warming, and then suddenly we have 5 years of cooling. I think you are unwilling to accept that this is quite a significant event.

Significant? Sure. Does it mean global warming isn't happening? No.

Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 23:12:09
I am sure that you have heard of snowball earth and how global warming could lead to global cooling and a new ice age.

I have, and such a thing could happen eventually given the right conditions. So far, however, the temperatures keep marching higher. In either case (a great warming or a great cooling), there could be potentially devastating impacts on ecosystems and human life.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #42 on: 25/01/2019 23:57:08 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 25/01/2019 23:30:13
Significant? Sure.
This seems rather a change of tack from your and others earlier posts
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Quote from: Petrochemicals on 21/01/2019 00:34:59
Have you ever wondered why in the years immediatley following the credit crunch we had long term sustained snow in europe in the midst of climate change. This sort of snowfall had not been seen since the 1980s, yet know one seemed to notice this large period of snowfall and cooling in the middle of all the talk about global warming.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/65/Cherry-Picking
« Last Edit: 25/01/2019 23:59:38 by Petrochemicals »
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #43 on: 26/01/2019 00:48:34 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/01/2019 21:04:23
Why did you lie about me?
Still waiting for a reply...
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #44 on: 26/01/2019 00:50:00 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 23:57:08
This seems rather a change of tack from your and others earlier posts
Only if you cherry pick it out of context.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #45 on: 26/01/2019 00:56:01 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 25/01/2019 13:40:02
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 01:04:26
There where also massive longterm snowfalls across europe, and I believe bad snow in the States, although that seems to be just a little  highter than average.
Evidence required as per previous requests. 'I believe' is not evidence.
Still waiting for evidence
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #46 on: 26/01/2019 06:02:24 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 23:57:08
This seems rather a change of tack from your and others earlier posts

Not if you had included the sentence that I wrote immediately after it...
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #47 on: 26/01/2019 14:09:13 »
Friends
Please come out from this and let us go for a worthy discussion.

Thank you
Yours
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #48 on: 26/01/2019 21:02:58 »
Quote from: pasala on 26/01/2019 14:09:13
Friends
Please come out from this and let us go for a worthy discussion.

Thank you
Yours
Psreddy

What would you consider a worthy discussion to be?
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #49 on: 27/01/2019 16:07:39 »
Perhaps the lit cigarette is due consideration within the refrigeration and gas laws of the house, rather than just stating that the temerature will increace. Perhaps the pressure increaces, perhaps the volume decreaces, perhaps the extra energy leads to increaced evapouration, leading to the temperature staying the same but pressure rising ? Take your pick.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #50 on: 24/02/2019 13:35:47 »
I am sure basic concept is different.  It is not the cigar main point to be focused.  Ok, let us suppose that there is a Earth shape wood which catched fire.  Initially fire cools at the edges of the either side, slowly it moves to centre and stays there for quite long period.  Similar thing is happening in the case of Earth only. 

Energy released by Earth may be very small when compared to Sun, but here it plays key role.  Suppose if there is no Energy from Earth which resists hydrosphere, during night time temperature will drop upto -120 to -140 degrees.  Similarly during day time, as the hydrosphere moves to other side, dramatically temperature will rise upto +120 to +140 degrees.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #51 on: 24/02/2019 13:49:51 »
Quote from: pasala on 24/02/2019 13:35:47
I am sure basic concept is different.  It is not the cigar main point to be focused.  Ok, let us suppose that there is a Earth shape wood which catched fire.  Initially fire cools at the edges of the either side, slowly it moves to centre and stays there for quite long period.  Similar thing is happening in the case of Earth only. 

Energy released by Earth may be very small when compared to Sun, but here it plays key role.  Suppose if there is no Energy from Earth which resists hydrosphere, during night time temperature will drop upto -120 to -140 degrees.  Similarly during day time, as the hydrosphere moves to other side, dramatically temperature will rise upto +120 to +140 degrees.
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Did you think that meant something?
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #52 on: 28/02/2019 00:49:32 »
Sorry

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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #53 on: 02/03/2019 04:09:36 »
If wood catches fire it releases alot 9f water into the building. This water vapour being a refrigerant and a greenhouse gas, it reflects heat back into the room insulating it,  which means the room becomes hotter and the fire faster.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #54 on: 03/03/2019 05:37:10 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 02/03/2019 04:09:36
If wood catches fire it releases alot 9f water into the building. This water vapour being a refrigerant and a greenhouse gas, it reflects heat back into the room insulating it,  which means the room becomes hotter and the fire faster.
This is an example how Earth started cooling and paved way for spacetime. I am sure and i believe in big bang theory.  Similarly as in the case of Earth shape wood, Earth started cooling from the corners, paving the way for climate, atmosphere and finally human existence.  So, initially human existence started from the North and South poles only and end at the middle.

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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #55 on: 03/03/2019 15:13:26 »
Quote from: pasala on 03/03/2019 05:37:10
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 02/03/2019 04:09:36
If wood catches fire it releases alot 9f water into the building. This water vapour being a refrigerant and a greenhouse gas, it reflects heat back into the room insulating it,  which means the room becomes hotter and the fire faster.
This is an example how Earth started cooling and paved way for spacetime. I am sure and i believe in big bang theory.  Similarly as in the case of Earth shape wood, Earth started cooling from the corners, paving the way for climate, atmosphere and finally human existence.  So, initially human existence started from the North and South poles only and end at the middle.


What does that nonsense even mean?
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #56 on: 03/03/2019 15:22:46 »
Quote from: pasala on 14/02/2016 17:09:55
CREATION OF ENERGY BASE:
Once our earth is also a ball of fire only.  Due to heavy concentration of hydrosphere it rained for quiet long period and earth started cooling.  Initially it started cooling from poles and paved way for nature.  Strong hydrosphere paved way for creation of "ENERGY BASE" on this earth.  Certain amount of energy permanently remained on this earth.  We are all living in this and this can compared to mother's womb which gives far better protection than anything.

While calculating GLOBAL WARMING we must keep in mind about this energy base.  Without any idea about this, any calculations misleads us.  Impact of global warming can be divided into two periods, short and long.
Tried to explain this, a sense on non
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #57 on: 03/03/2019 16:40:58 »
Quote from: pasala on 03/03/2019 15:22:46
Quote from: pasala on 14/02/2016 17:09:55
CREATION OF ENERGY BASE:
Once our earth is also a ball of fire only.  Due to heavy concentration of hydrosphere it rained for quiet long period and earth started cooling.  Initially it started cooling from poles and paved way for nature.  Strong hydrosphere paved way for creation of "ENERGY BASE" on this earth.  Certain amount of energy permanently remained on this earth.  We are all living in this and this can compared to mother's womb which gives far better protection than anything.

While calculating GLOBAL WARMING we must keep in mind about this energy base.  Without any idea about this, any calculations misleads us.  Impact of global warming can be divided into two periods, short and long.
Tried to explain this, a sense on non
Trying to explain nonsense with more inarticulate nonsense does not help.
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #58 on: 03/03/2019 17:26:25 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 03/03/2019 16:40:58
Quote from: pasala on 03/03/2019 15:22:46
Quote from: pasala on 14/02/2016 17:09:55
CREATION OF ENERGY BASE:
Once our earth is also a ball of fire only.  Due to heavy concentration of hydrosphere it rained for quiet long period and earth started cooling.  Initially it started cooling from poles and paved way for nature.  Strong hydrosphere paved way for creation of "ENERGY BASE" on this earth.  Certain amount of energy permanently remained on this earth.  We are all living in this and this can compared to mother's womb which gives far better protection than anything.

While calculating GLOBAL WARMING we must keep in mind about this energy base.  Without any idea about this, any calculations misleads us.  Impact of global warming can be divided into two periods, short and long.
Tried to explain this, a sense on non
Trying to explain nonsense with more inarticulate nonsense does not help.
May not be so good to cross a line of sense
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Re: What is global warming?
« Reply #59 on: 03/03/2019 20:32:43 »
Quote from: pasala on 03/03/2019 17:26:25
Quote from: The Spoon on 03/03/2019 16:40:58
Quote from: pasala on 03/03/2019 15:22:46
Quote from: pasala on 14/02/2016 17:09:55
CREATION OF ENERGY BASE:
Once our earth is also a ball of fire only.  Due to heavy concentration of hydrosphere it rained for quiet long period and earth started cooling.  Initially it started cooling from poles and paved way for nature.  Strong hydrosphere paved way for creation of "ENERGY BASE" on this earth.  Certain amount of energy permanently remained on this earth.  We are all living in this and this can compared to mother's womb which gives far better protection than anything.

While calculating GLOBAL WARMING we must keep in mind about this energy base.  Without any idea about this, any calculations misleads us.  Impact of global warming can be divided into two periods, short and long.
Tried to explain this, a sense on non
Trying to explain nonsense with more inarticulate nonsense does not help.
May not be so good to cross a line of sense
Ah I see. You are just trolling then.
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