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You've just got the hump because you are descended from a bunch of hairy-assed, freckly ginger-mops! And they didn't go anywhere near Greece.600 B.C.: *600 B.C.: Many Celtic tribes came to Central and Western Europe: the Boyards, the Noricae, the Vindelici and, in the mountains between Hungary and Switzerland, the Helvetians. Two groups of Celts existed in Gaul: those between Garonne and the Pyrenees, and those between Garonne and the Seine: the Arverni, the Haeduers, the Veneti, the Parisii and the Serones. The Allobroges settled in the area around the Rhône and the Maritime Alps. The last to arrive were the Belgae between the Seine and the Rhine, the Bellovaci around Beauvais, and the Remi between Marne and Meuse. Some Belgae settled on the British Islands, near London. The Brigantes lived in the Pennine Chains in England, while the Caledones occupied an area to the north. The Boyards, the Insubrians and the Serones influenced Italy while in western-Spain Celts mingled with Iberians to give rise to Celtiberian tribes.(from http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/history/migration/chapter113.html)
The Vikings, on the other hand were in Greece & were prominent in the court of Byzantium. They founded the city of Kiev, and Russia grew from the settlement of a Viking tribe called the Rus.The Viking trading empire covered the whole of northern Europe, Italy, Greece, much of Turkey and East past the Black Sea, and they even had trading links with the Arab lands.Vikings were also the first Europeans to venture to the Americas.It was the Vikings who smegged another Celtic tribe, the Gauls in northern France.Of course we can sing. Haven't you seen "The Vikings" with Kirk Douglas & Tony Curtis?
What? brain only understands science. Failed History A level! Can only remember the story about Elizabeth I. A man farted in her presence and was so embarrassed that he exiled himself to Europe for 7 years. On his return to court the Queen said "I have not forgotten the fart." Knowledge of History complete.....beep, beeep, beeeeep!
In the Aegean world, a huge migration of Eastern Gauls appeared in Thrace, north of Greece, in 281 BC. Another Gaulish chieftain also named Brennus, at the head of a large army, was only turned back from desecrating the Temple of Apollo at Delphi in Greece at the last minute — he was alarmed, it was said, by portents of thunder and lightning. At the same time a migrating band of Celts, some 10,000 warriors, with their women and children and slaves, were moving through Thrace. Three tribes of Gauls crossed over from Thrace to Asia Minor at the express invitation of Nicomedes I, king of Bithynia (which was a small geographical location just south of the bosphorus and the Euxene (Black Sea) in the northern area of modern-day Turkey, i.e just south and southeast of the latter-day city of Constantinople, or modern-day Istanbul), who required help in a dynastic struggle against his brother. Eventually they settled down in eastern Phrygia and Cappadocia in central Anatolia, a region henceforth known as Galatia.
'Illyrians' has come to refer to a broad, ill-defined "Indo-European" group of peoples who inhabited the western Balkans (Illyria, roughly from the Albanian and Montenegro border to southern Pannonia)
"The Hallstatt culture was the predominant Central European culture during the local Bronze Age and preceded the Iron Age throughout most of Northern and North-eastern Europe. Depending on the interpreter, the culture is linked to the Celts or to their predecessors and the Illyrians]. Other theories link this culture to the Adriatic Veneti as predecessors of modern Slavs. It is named for its type site, Hallstatt a lakeside village in the Austrian Salzkammergut southeast of Salzburg."
"Douglas" - From Clan Douglas in Celtic Scotland"Curtis" - hired Italian swords that William brought with him.
As for my history, for me it's not history - it's memories!
Anyway, what have the Celts left for posterity? Kilts, leeks, haggis and a language that sounds as if you're trying to alleviate the nastier symptoms of bronchitis.
JimBob, where is Beaver Doctor? Is he on his Hol's or has he got a life....oh,no!
But you do not challenge the validity of the Guardian's and BBC's articles, do you?
Quote from: Make it Lady on 01/03/2008 20:56:28JimBob, where is Beaver Doctor? Is he on his Hol's or has he got a life....oh,no! I spy an abused apostrophe! [!]
Quote from: JimBob on 02/03/2008 18:03:46But you do not challenge the validity of the Guardian's and BBC's articles, do you?The Guardian is a socialist propoganda sheet and the BBC - well, the least said the better about that organisation these days.
Read about my ancestor:www.foolishpeople.com/foolishpeople/2005/11/british_dragon_.html - 91k -
Read it again JimBob, you need to go to the section on Cheshire. This tells of my Dragon Slaying past. And no comments about me being a dragon!
Well it just goes to show that Normans still rule (even if that particular 1 has been tainted with inbred, redneck blood that has turned him mad)In any case, I can't find anything that says Henry Spencer was Norman.
I'm not one for busman's holidays so they do tend to go up the swany when I've just done a show. Sorry!
Quote from: Make it Lady on 03/03/2008 16:13:19I'm not one for busman's holidays so they do tend to go up the swany when I've just done a show. Sorry!You are forgiven - this time
I never said Spencer was a Norman - the family is related to the Bush's.Don't you read?
Is this 'tiff' still going on? haha
Quote from: Exodus on 03/03/2008 21:10:56Is this 'tiff' still going on? hahaIt appears to be a menage a trois now the dragon has also taken up arms. 
I had meant to put a full stop but my touch typing is rubbish and my cat insists on helping. Why do they do that? As for my History my Mum is welsh and my Dad's family were originally Venables. One of my relatives was a dragon slayer. The family used to own Delamere forest in Knutsford and the locals called them The Meres which was corrupted later to Mayer. I think changing your surname is rather weird.Venable goes back to heraldry though.
Quote from: DoctorBeaver on 03/03/2008 21:21:54Quote from: Exodus on 03/03/2008 21:10:56Is this 'tiff' still going on? hahaIt appears to be a menage a trois now the dragon has also taken up arms. Will the three of you get out of my horse riding arena!
No I am awaiting my knight.
Quote from: Make it Lady on 03/03/2008 22:19:41No I am awaiting my knight.i'll gladly get out of the arena to watch that!