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It is the saying sorry bit afterwards that Stana is trying to understand. This often happens with people that hit their partners too. They seem to be remorseful afterwards. I don't actually think they are sorry. I think they think that it is expected and if you do it chances are you wont get into trouble. I doubt it is ever meant. It is all part of the control and manipulate mentality.
Yeah.. it is a matter of opinion.. I don't think that all rape is a display of antisocial behaviour. And "good" and "bad" are also relative. Technically we don't even have a choice about anything we do (or we do, but it's mathematically predictable in theory)
oh ohkay.. actually I was going to add "if you're responding to my post" at the beginning, but I decided against it xD. Good policy. Ever read Scott Adams's "stick to drawing comics monkey brain" book? He's made a conscious decision to append a silent disclaimer to the end of anything he says (BOCTAOE.. But Of Course There Are Other Exceptions).. sounds like you could use that =P
Firstly, the notion of 'anti-social' behaviour depends on what society claims it to be (which can vary from society to society, and context to context). Then again, since society defines what rape is as that which is illegal, I suppose you could argue that if it is not illegal (depending on how one defines the law) then it is not rape. Whether one equates illegal with anti-social is another matter.
As for rapists being outcasts - it rather depends on the context. Any obsessive, including obsessive rapists, are likely to be not very well socially integrated; but rape, like murder, theft, or so many other activities, may be something one does once in one's life in a moment of aberration, or it may be something that one is not even aware that the action one is undertaking is defined in law in that way, or it may be something one is both concious of its legal meaning and one habitually undertakes it. They are all different situations, and cannot be regarded as equal.
Many people who commit violent acts within the family, but not so in relation to strangers, are often regarded by people outside of the family as harmless and even charming people.
When people talk about rape, they all have their own stereotypical image of what they mean by the term, and how they imagine the people who commit it to be. The reality is that it is a wide range of activities which only have one thing in common, it is sexual intercourse that is undertaken without the legal consent of the subject (normally the woman) upon whom the act is undertaken.
Well yes of course......but I think we all have a relative understanding of a general realisation of what rape is and what ' anti social ' is without having to detail it too extreme. I would consider 'Rape ' ' anti-social ' in the extreme without having to question the society I am living in and whether the victim considers it so too.
Yes, of course...and as mentioned people who commit this act be it once or twice or habitually I consider to be in need of ' assistance ' one way or another. Ignorance of the law or ignorance as to whether it is socially acceptable is not a defense as far as I am concerned ...with maybe...possibly the exception of a proven case of severe mental disorder.
Quote from: another_someone on 21/03/2008 19:12:47When people talk about rape, they all have their own stereotypical image of what they mean by the term, and how they imagine the people who commit it to be. The reality is that it is a wide range of activities which only have one thing in common, it is sexual intercourse that is undertaken without the legal consent of the subject (normally the woman) upon whom the act is undertaken.Not necessarily...It's not always sexual intercourse !!
...I would expect there to be a mental trigger that they all have in common too.