Do bees have knees?

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Do bees have knees?
« on: 30/05/2008 09:15:33 »
Penny Wood asked the Naked Scientists:

We've all heard the saying, but do bees really have knees?

What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: 30/05/2008 09:28:23 »
In a sense, they do. I'm pretty sure they don't have knee caps or any such similar structures, but their legs are jointed.
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« Reply #2 on: 30/05/2008 11:18:45 »
Bees seem to have more knees than you can shake a stick at.

The front legs are mainly concerned with cleaning the antenna. There is a semi circular notch in the leg for this purpose.

The rear legs are where all the action is.



The bee can clear all the pollen stuck to it and then 'press' it and then store it in a big ball stuck to its rear legs.

The term could come from the flexability and dexterity involved in the legs in order to do this. Or, it could come from a misconception that the collected pollen looks like prominent knees (c.f. The Cats Wiskers, The Dog B*****)





« Last Edit: 30/05/2008 11:20:37 by turnipsock »
Beeswax: Natures petrol tank sealant.

When things are in 3D, is it always the same three dimensions?

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« Reply #3 on: 31/05/2008 00:39:26 »
Or is it a corruption of "the business"?

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« Reply #4 on: 31/05/2008 07:01:19 »
This bee certainly looks pleased with itself ...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4023216.ece

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« Reply #5 on: 31/05/2008 09:26:34 »
Well, this bee seems happy about something



No, it's not faked. It was photographed in a garden in Newquay, Cornwall, UK. It was on TV the other day.

http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=445787&sid=LIF&ssid=68
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« Reply #6 on: 01/06/2008 08:06:29 »


No, it's not faked.

Initially I thought it was unbeelievable, a piss take, but now I'm a beeliever after looking at a SEM image of a honeybee ...

http://www.sciencephoto.com/images/imagePopUpDetails.html?pop=1&id=903451029&pviewid=&country=67&search=bee&matchtype=FUZZY

If its mouthparts were extended, rather than crossed as in the SEM image, they could look like a lower jaw.

So the photographer is not guilty of bee-hive-ing badly. (groan)

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« Reply #7 on: 01/06/2008 10:08:32 »
RD - oh dear. You've sunk to our level. I knew it would happen.

Incidentally, did you know that bees have been to the Moon? They were part of the Apollen program!  [:D]
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« Reply #8 on: 01/06/2008 15:18:31 »
Must have been a waxing moon!
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« Reply #9 on: 01/06/2008 15:49:27 »
Or was it a honey-comb??


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« Reply #10 on: 01/06/2008 16:04:17 »
Or was it a honey-comb??




Preferable to a nit comb.
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« Reply #11 on: 01/06/2008 16:59:12 »
comb sweet comb
Beeswax: Natures petrol tank sealant.

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« Reply #12 on: 01/06/2008 17:30:48 »
comb sweet comb


Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   LOL LOL LOL Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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« Reply #13 on: 01/06/2008 18:44:20 »
RD - oh dear. You've sunk to our level. I knew it would happen.[:D]

I admit these jokes are bee-knee-th my usual standard.

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« Reply #14 on: 01/06/2008 20:11:31 »
You are bee-yond help.
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« Reply #15 on: 01/06/2008 21:06:52 »
You are bee-yond help.

As Turnipsock had said that bees do have knees and was mentioned on the good TNS show tonight that bees DO have knees, I believe him but can't stop finding it funny.

So bee-coming are their buzzes
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« Reply #16 on: 02/06/2008 15:02:09 »
Bee hive yourselves and do some serious Science.

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« Reply #17 on: 02/06/2008 17:09:49 »
Like why do Bees fly away from their hives to who knows where.

To gather more pollen or to make another new swarm elsewhere>>??
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« Reply #18 on: 02/06/2008 18:59:14 »
Bees swarm to divide the colony & start a new hive. Approximately 60% of the bees leave the existing colony.

There are 3 main reasons why the colony divides:-

Overcrowding
Starvation
Internal hive problems
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« Reply #19 on: 02/06/2008 19:24:56 »
Bees swarm to divide the colony & start a new hive. Approximately 60% of the bees leave the existing colony.

There are 3 main reasons why the colony divides:-

Overcrowding
Starvation
Internal hive problems

Presumably the last reason listed would include fire ...
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When a hive detects smoke, many bees become remarkably non aggressive. It is speculated that this is a defense mechanism; wild colonies generally live in hollow trees, and when bees detect smoke it is presumed that they prepare to evacuate from a forest fire, carrying as much food reserve as they can. In order to do this, they will go to the nearest honey storage cells and gorge on honey. In this state they are quite docile since defense from predation is relatively unimportant; saving as much as possible is the most important activity.
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« Reply #20 on: 02/06/2008 23:39:33 »
Beekeepers do use smoke to get at the fresh honeycombs so I have
been told or read about.
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« Reply #21 on: 03/06/2008 14:10:55 »
Bees even have aerials to tune in to TNS radio show on the Bee Bee C  [:)] ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4536127.stm   

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« Reply #22 on: 03/06/2008 15:12:28 »
Another reason that the hive of bees just vanish could be because the queen dies, she is the main bee, who keeps it going. someone will correct me perhaps Turnipsock, Doctor Beaver Andrew or ???
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« Reply #23 on: 21/01/2010 19:22:52 »
how do you know?

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« Reply #24 on: 08/10/2010 04:10:55 »
Bees suck...Wasps are waaaay cooler!!!