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Four well-known physical constants with positive values, yet there's a minus sign in front. That immediately tells us that the entire universe experiences negative acceleration.
Einstein was well aware that the term for pressure (P) in the universe is rather tiny compared to the term for mass density (represented by the Greek letter Rho ). It's divided by a huge number - the velocity of light squared. You've got this extremely small number divided by a huge number. This means that for all intents and purposes, we can ignore that “3P/C²” relative to the density. We can drop that term out, and then we have something much simpler to solve.
Atoms must be able to assemble in the molecules in order to gain sufficient complexity for life chemistry to proceed. That applies to any conceivable kind of life.
If you have infinite throws at the dice of chance, then any matter of complexity would be conceivable - even something as complicated as a German philosopher
The Extreme Precision of Physical Constants
Alan, please define what you mean by an intelligent designer, and then explain how the intelligent designer came into existence. Your response must contain solid supporting evidence.Chance events do occur. They are nothing to fear. It is not a matter of preference, it is a matter of accepting explanations based on valid supporting evidence.
My real point is you require just as much faith to believe in a chance universe without a creator, as I do with a created universe by an intelligence far beyond ours.
My eyes that somehow had to come to an agreement with my nose to drill a lillte hole threw it to drain off tears running down mt face. "Tear duct"
I difficult I have with evolution especially when looking at the colossal DNA molecule is that the universe is much too young to have randomply produced this ultimate of complexties.
While I cannot prove a creator exists no one can prove he does not exist.
Life "to me" with this bleak outlook has absoltely no meaning and is more a burden than a gift.
If for instance we took a hypothetical analogy of millions of Boeing 747 airplanes, full of bricks, mortar and water, and dropped all this, at random upon the earth at once, would the result ever be the one of the glorious building constructions we see all around us, such as the wonderful beautiful Taj Mahal or the Sydney Opera house that was created, designed and built by mere mortal humanity? A trillion billion monkeys bashing at a billion typewriters for a billion years would never produce even one of Shaspears sonnets much less than the infinitely more complex DNA molecule.
My conclusion as an amateur astronomer leaves me with the unshakable belief that an Awesome Intelligence is behind the creation of the universe and this same mighty intelligence keeps the universe going. "GOD EXISTS".A great astronomer looks out at the unimaginably beautiful universe and wondered if he was observing a huge well ordered mathematic machine. .Thinking deeply about it later he said to himself, no this wonder is not a machine but a beautiful thought in the mind of an Infinite Intelligence
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe there's fairies at the bottom of it?
Think of it this way,when I am on my death bed in the those of moments before death overtakes medying, having faith that there is meaning to life beyond the grave and a that loving god is going to guide me across the dark valley of death will be most comforting.People with deep faith in god seem to fear death less and pass over with less fear and struggle.Think would you like to have faith in god when the moment has come for you to die, or know that that moment means your extinction forever....I really respect where you are coming from but I don't like believing this flashing moment we call life in the infinity of eterinity, is all that there is....Life "to me" with this bleak outlook has absoltely no meaning and is more a burden than a gift.
As many more individuals of each species are born than can possibly survive; and as, consequently, there is a frequently recurring struggle for existence, it follows that any being, if it vary however slightly in any manner profitable to itself, under the complex and sometimes varying conditions of life, will have a better chance of surviving, and thus be naturally selected. From the strong principle of inheritance, any selected variety will tend to propagate its new and modified form.
I will repeat [/color] this: Comfort does not equal truth
My sister who is now in the death throes of breast and liver cancer has a deep belief in god and that there is purpose even in her suffering.Must I know go and bombard her with Darwinian dogma and take away her meaning for living?
What I will NOT support though, and I will resist it with all means at my disposal, is having religious zealots trying to ram their beliefs down my throat and threatening my way of life because it doesn't conform to their credo (No, Alan, I'm not aiming that at you).
"You do not have to repeat what Darwinism is all about and you are all wrongly assuming I have no concept of evolution.Do I come over as some sort of an ignoramus or what?
The only place where I differ from you guys is that I believe an intelligent mind could be behind it all,
A question I've asked a few creationists and not yet had a coherent reply to - if God created us and made this planet for us to live on, why did he make it such a dangerous place (with earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tsunami, etc)? Surely, any being powerful enough to have created the universe could have put us somewhere a bit safer.
Alan - your reply may apply were we immortal; but that is not the case. We wouldn't each be around for a million years to get bored with it
Are you saying that there were some bad replies? Did these good people give up their time to post replies only for them to be categorised good or bad
Possibly not. Are you saying that plagues and pestilence, not to mention war, famine, hunger...the list goes on...are put here by your god to keep us on our toes and so we don't get bored
I hope my reply is more intelligent than those you received from idiot creationist who can't think beyond their very short noses
So, you don't like people challenging your idea of a god, but are quite happy to call others idiots for what they believeI would not have started this thread if I did not like people challenging my idea of god!
After a hundred years, we might like it after a thousand maybe still like it, after a million years, man!! We would start to be really pissed off with our never changing stupid companions and a billion years heaven would have become an unimaginable boring “Hell”
I spent a whole year trying to reason with one of these people who uninvited by me tried to force his silly ideas on me.
That sounds like an allusion to immortality.
Are you then a creationist If you are come out of the shadow and put your views to the forum?
There is more than one faith, although only one true faith
Quote from: Paul. on 20/07/2008 06:09:02There is more than one faith, although only one true faithDon't they all say that?
Paul, is that Federation a real church or are you kidding?
Incidentally the "Federation Of Christian Orthodoxy For Faith" is within a gnat's fart of having a really unfortunate acronym.
Disclaimer:There is more than one faith, although only one true faith; the mormon faith.
Mormon doctrine for instance god is an exalted man from another planet who came to earth had intercourse behind poor Josephs beloved to be wife Mary
So by this jesus is a bastard!!
So, he had sex behind Mary. But who with?
I do not believe in any form of God that acts with intelligence in this universe or any form of afterlife but I do believe in religion as a vital part of creating a cooperative and cohesive society and the concept of a loving and knowing God as a simple model for interacting with others and our environment so I am a member of the Church of England and a regular church goer