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Funny, I thought F+M was caused by a virus and that the reason it wasn't here was because we quarantined the virus.The outbreak from Pirbirght was due to shoddy procedures and equipment.
Glad you mentioned the last outbreaks because every single one of them was plagued with widespread floods.
Andrew it has been a wet summer this year but no signs of FMD sothat your theories for once don't seem to corrobrate with studies.
My prediction is that an outbreak is on the cards,
not that it has happened already.
last outbreaks because every single one of them was plagued with widespread floods.
We shall have to wait and see if this prediction has any merit.
Hi Rosalind dnaMy prediction is that an outbreak is on the cards, not that it has happened already. We shall have to wait and see if this prediction has any merit.QuoteAndrew it has been a wet summer this year but no signs of FMD sothat your theories for once don't seem to corrobrate with studies.
Quote from: Andrew K Fletcher on 25/08/2008 10:21:49My prediction is that an outbreak is on the cards, I dont think that is in the card. You have presented strong point about unusually wheat weather along with widespread of floods in UK and the Foot and Mouth Disease OutbreaksQuote from: Andrew K Fletcher on 25/08/2008 10:21:49not that it has happened already. According to your statement it already has happened (1967, 2001 and 2007)Quotelast outbreaks because every single one of them was plagued with widespread floods.Quote from: Andrew K Fletcher on 25/08/2008 10:21:49We shall have to wait and see if this prediction has any merit.I dont think that the outbreak of foot and mouth disease will happen this year because this summer is wheat above average but is les wheat than last summer. The last summer it was a widespread of floods. This year we didnt have widespread of floods, at least not yet.
GSBGHumidity is the important factor here not how wet the soil is. These animals require sunlight like the rest of us in order to flourish. Typically British weather often lacks sunlight. But this year we appear to be experiencing some unusual summer weather. Hopefully the winter may bring some dryer weather. Even in desert conditions Excessive Irrigation often provides a river valley with very high humidity, This is often followed by an increase in viral and bacterial pathogen outbreaks, some very serious and life threatening. In addition Foot and mouth disease is also found in these artificially high humid environments.In the UK we experience a fair amount of rainfall compared to many other countries. Our winters often bring with them the floods you mention. The ground water levels are already high. Ireland for example has experienced floods already so has Wales and Leicester. There appears to be an uneven distribution of rainfall lately around the globe, with some areas experiencing severe drought yet other areas experiencing widespread floods. Africa has been experiencing some unusually high rainfalls in areas and this has followed with the appearance of foot and mouth disease and other viral outbreaks.The First World War gives us another example of influenza pandemic killing millions of soldiers and civilians and crossing from country to country with little to no hope of containing it. This time was also the time of some unusually wet weather with soldiers suffering from trench foot due to the swamplike conditions.In the Late Tudor Period the sweating sickness killed millions also. The Historic recording for it easing was a tempest that swept away the unusually foul air. Meaning High Humidity.
BCYou argue that the wild animals in Africa are responsible for maintaining the virus so that it can be spread back to livestock. Can I ask you why the wild dear and wild boar can't also be doing the same in the UK?
The word endemic also implies that the virus is maintained in the wild population of animals. Sorry if this was taken out of context.However calling me a liar over something as minor as a misunderstanding tells people a lot more about you BC than it does about me.I Bet you wouldnt say this to my face!
Oh look! A conspiracy theory."I suspect that the UK is not as free from infections like foot and mouth disease as politicians would have us believe."FMD is a contageous notifiable disease with clearly defined symptoms which are known to all farmers and vets. But Andrew thinks it is kept a secret.Does anyone agree with him?Cosmored, perhaps?While we are at it, this "In the F&M outbreaks we see vets, farmers, soldiers, police, politicians, press and the public having to wash their footwear and hose down vehicles from infected areas. This says something about the virus having a mechanism to transfer from one source to infect another without the need for an animal. Why cant this happen in the wild animal populations and among the bird and insect populations? It can and does, otherwise these disinfection controls would be deemed useless. (They may or may not be useless) But for now lets assume they are useful in containing the virus.This would then show that the virus can no longer be considered as either indigenous or endemic as carriers, be it footwear or a hoofed or clawed foot the virus finds a way to move around. Why else would we need 2.5 million antiviral injections for bluetongue." is a non sequiteur. It starts off by making observations about FMD, then uses thenm to try to prove something about bluetongue.FMD is a virus, it's small and so it can be accidentally carried about by birds other aniimals and people. Of these peiople are by far the most mobile (people often travel hundreds of miles in a day- animals generally don't).That makes cleaning boots and such a good idea. We can't do a lot about the birds but we can reduce the likelihood of infection buy restricting the movement of cattle. We can also make sure that farms near the infected animals are kept under close observation. If there's any infection there the cattle are destroyed.What Andrew seems not to understand is that there is a difference between a host and a vector.Birds can transmit the virus, carried on their feet. However if the virus isn't taken to another cow it dies out. Imagine that we had wild cows - these too could get the virus and it would circulate among them in much the same way as measles does in people. Contact between these animals and farmed cows would mean that the farm animals would keep getting infected.The wild cows would act as a reservoir for the disease because it infects them. It doesn't infect birds so there's no reservoir of infection. That's why the disease is not endemic in the UK.
Bluetongue outbreaks die out in Winter when it's cold and wet.