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A list of great minds


 
The Nine Greatest Mathematicians

 
1.  Archimedes (287-212 B. C.)
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician and Physicist
Nationality:  Greek
Place of Birth:  Ancient Syracuse, Sicily
Most important Extant Writing:  The Method
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 2.  Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician and Physicist
Nationality:  English
Place of Birth:  Woolsthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Most important Writing:  Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica (1687)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 3.  Leonhard Euler (1707-1783)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  Swiss
Place of Birth:  Basel, Switzerland
Most important Writing:  Methodus Inveniendi Lineas Curvas (1740)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 4. Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss (1777-1855)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  German
Place of Birth:  Brunswick, Duchy of Brunswick (now Germany)
Most important Writing:  Disquisitiones Arithmeticae (1801)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 5.  Georg Friedrich Bernhard Riemann (1826-1866)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  German
Place of Birth:  Breselenz, Hanover (now Germany)
Most important Writing:  Theory of Abelian Functions (1857)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
6.  Jules Henri Poincaré (1854-1912)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  French
Place of Birth:  Nancy, Lorraine, France
Most important Writing:  Analysis Situs (1895)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 7.  John von Neumann (1903-1957)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  Hungarian
Place of Birth:  Budapest, Hungary
Most important Writing:   Theory of Games and Economic Behaviour (1944)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
8.   Kurt Gödel (1906-1978)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  Austrian
Place of Birth:  Brünn, Austria-Hungary (now in Czech Republic)
Most important Writing:  Über Formal Unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und Verwandter Systeme (1931)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
9.  Alan Mathison Turing (1913-1954)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician
Nationality:  English
Place of Birth:  London, England
Most important Writing:   On Computable Numbers, with an Application to the Entscheidungsproblem  (1936)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 



The Nine Greatest Scientists
This page presents summary biographical information for each of the nine scientists selected.   The scientists are addressed in chronological order and are each linked to a recommended academic web page that offers additional biographical information.
 
1.  Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Mathematician and Physicist
Nationality:  English
Place of Birth:  Woolsthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Most important Writing:  Principia (1687)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland

 
 2.  Sir Charles Lyell (1797-1875)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Geologist
Nationality:  Scottish
Place of Birth:   Kirriemuir, County Angus, Scotland
Most important Writing:  Principles of Geology (1833)
Recommended Web Page:  Bartleby.com
 
 
3.  Charles Robert Darwin (1809-1882)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Biologist
Nationality:  English
Place of Birth:   Shrewsbury, England
Most important Writing:  On the Origin of Species (1859)
Recommended Web Page:  Coe College, Iowa
 
 
4.  James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Physicist
Nationality:  Scottish
Place of Birth:   Edinburgh, Scotland
Most important Writing:  Electricity and Magnetism (1873)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland
 
 
5.  Ludwig Boltzman (1844-1906)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Physicist
Nationality:  Austrian
Place of Birth:   Vienna, Austria
Most important Writing:  Principles of Mechanics (1897)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland
 
 
 6.  Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Physicist
Nationality:  German
Place of Birth:   Ulm, Württemberg, Germany
Most important Writing:  The Field Equations of Gravitation (1915)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland
 
 
7.  Edwin Powell Hubble (1889-1953)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Astronomer
Nationality:  United States
Place of Birth:   Marshfield, Missouri, U. S. A.
Most important Writing:  A Relation Between Distance and Radial Velocity Among Extra-Galactic Nebulae (1929)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland
 
 
8.  Werner Heisenberg (1901-1976)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Physicist
Nationality:  German
Place of Birth:   Würzburg, Germany
Most important Writing:  Physical Principles of Quantum Theory (1928)
Recommended Web Page:  University of St. Andrews, Scotland
 
 
 9.  Edward Witten (b. 1951)
 
 
Academic Profession:  Physicist and Mathematician
Nationality:  United States
Place of Birth:   Baltimore, Maryland, U. S. A.
Most important Writing:  Reflections on the Fate of Spacetime (1996)
Recommended Web Page:  Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton University
 
 


Could you rank them by greatness??

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« Reply #1 on: 20/09/2008 01:23:55 »
Whats the point, as great mind think alike!?
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« Reply #3 on: 20/09/2008 19:40:28 »
I could try to rank them by scrabble score- would that help?
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« Reply #4 on: 20/09/2008 23:00:04 »
It is the only time you will score today!
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« Reply #5 on: 21/09/2008 14:56:53 »
I could try to rank them by scrabble score- would that help?

It always get around to scrabble!

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« Reply #6 on: 22/09/2008 14:19:56 »
Alan why only male Scientists?
Rosalind Franklin was my first cousin and one my life's main regrets is that I never met this brilliant and beautiful lady.
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« Reply #7 on: 22/09/2008 20:23:06 »
Alan why only male Scientists?

Do you mean:
Alan, why?

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« Reply #8 on: 22/09/2008 22:30:38 »
No he means Alan! Why?

I'd prefer; Alan, why oh why, oh why!
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« Reply #9 on: 23/09/2008 12:40:28 »
Why only scientists???

What about novelists, artists (inc pee artists, then I could include myself) composers, comics, politicians (OK forget most of those ****ers).

Here's my top 12 comics:
Grouco Marx
Spike Milligan
Ken Dodd
Tommy Cooper
Eric Morecome
Ronnie Barker
John Cleese
Jack Dee
Steven Wright
Frankie Howard
Kenneth Williams
Tony Hancock

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« Reply #10 on: 23/09/2008 16:50:26 »
Paul Gottlieb Nipkow.


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« Reply #11 on: 23/09/2008 17:01:08 »
No he means Alan! Why?

I'd prefer; Alan, why oh why, oh why!

Do you mean, Alan, why oh why, oh why ?

I'd prefer; A list of some great...never mind.

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« Reply #12 on: 23/09/2008 17:51:40 »
No he means Alan! Why?

I'd prefer; Alan, why oh why, oh why!

Do you mean, Alan, why oh why, oh why ?

I'd prefer; A list of some great...never mind.

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« Reply #13 on: 23/09/2008 19:30:01 »
Should the question be "Why XY not XX?"?
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« Reply #14 on: 23/09/2008 23:23:55 »
Alan why only male Scientists?

Do you mean:
Alan, why?

Paul I know exactly what I meant and I was asking Alan why has he only named Male Scientists and not a single female scientist or research scientist

As far as I am aware that in 2008 there are almost the same number of Female scientists as male ones. Research, medical and other scientific disciplines too.

EG Susan Greenfield
25 British scientists here. not bad IMO
http://www.britishcouncil.org/science-women-testimonials.htm

What about a former Astronomer Royal - Heather Couper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Couper
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« Reply #15 on: 24/09/2008 19:35:39 »
(I'm going to get lynched for this, but here goes.)
Rosalind, if Alan had drawn up a list of serial killers I doubt he would have included any women. Would you have commented on that?

The truth seems to be that men generally show greater variability in their natures than women do. More men are politicians- more men are psychopaths. There are more men thought of as great painters- but there are more men living as tramps.

Don't get me wrong here. I know that there are plenty of great women in science. The first person to win 2 Nobel prizes would do as an example - her daughter would too.
There's also another problem - straightforward prejudice. Some people simply refuse to accept that there is little difference between men and women as scientists. In the past this was an even greater problem. The French accademic society's ignorance of Marie Curie would be an example.

Historically the women were expected to get on with raising children- whether that's right or wrong isn't the issue here; it happened.
Because of that, they were not involved in science much and so few of them got to be great. (and as I said, some of those who were great got ignored and their results got atributed to brothers, husbands, colleagues etc).

If Alan's list shows that historical bias, then you can't blame him for it.
(having said all that I have say I'm suprised that he missed all the female scientists and mathematicians.)
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« Reply #16 on: 24/09/2008 20:12:24 »
(I'm going to get lynched for this, but here goes.)
Rosalind, if Alan had drawn up a list of serial killers I doubt he would have included any women. Would you have commented on that?

The truth seems to be that men generally show greater variability in their natures than women do. More men are politicians- more men are psychopaths. There are more men thought of as great painters- but there are more men living as tramps.

Don't get me wrong here. I know that there are plenty of great women in science. The first person to win 2 Nobel prizes would do as an example - her daughter would too.
There's also another problem - straightforward prejudice. Some people simply refuse to accept that there is little difference between men and women as scientists. In the past this was an even greater problem. The French accademic society's ignorance of Marie Curie would be an example.

Historically the women were expected to get on with raising children- whether that's right or wrong isn't the issue here; it happened.
Because of that, they were not involved in science much and so few of them got to be great. (and as I said, some of those who were great got ignored and their results got atributed to brothers, husbands, colleagues etc).

If Andrew's list shows that historical bias, then you can't blame him for it.
(having said all that I have say I'm suprised that he missed all the female scientists and mathematicians.)


BC some of my main reasons for noticing that Alan has missed out the women scientists in his list is because I am a woman also as you know related to the late crystallographer Rosalind Franklin.
Yes I do agree that even I can't understand why he left out all of the Female scientists, mathematicians and doctors, but what about medical thinkers, writers and so on.

I can't see why Alan has missed out so many of the female scientists because in other long lists of his on this forum that he has mentioned women in different fields.

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« Reply #17 on: 24/09/2008 21:24:24 »
That's where he sees women, out in fields!

Nice list Don 1 but again no women. There are plenty of funny ladies out there.
When you say Steven wright are you talking about radio 2 Steve Wright, in the afternoon?
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« Reply #18 on: 25/09/2008 09:42:34 »
Alan - when are you going to do a list of the best lists?

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« Reply #19 on: 25/09/2008 11:21:48 »
Alan - when are you going to do a list of the best lists?

Blake is there one?
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« Reply #20 on: 25/09/2008 11:25:12 »
That's where he sees women, out in fields!

Nice list Don 1 but again no women. There are plenty of funny ladies out there.
When you say Steven wright are you talking about radio 2 Steve Wright, in the afternoon?

No, not that Steve Wright, the American comic Steven Wright.

As for the lack of women comics, I must confess I don't think there are any I would want to include, I just don't find them very funny. Saunders & French - not funny as comics, not funny when together, but as comedy actresses (apart) they can be hilarious. Ab Fab & The Vicar of Dibley are great fav's of mine.

It was rather remiss of me to miss out Jo Brand though and I pondered on Sandy Toksvig, but decided she is more satirist than comic.
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« Reply #21 on: 25/09/2008 21:51:24 »
Sandy Toksvig talks like the late great Robin Cooke. She is very tonal and can be annoying especially on radio first thing in the morning.

Tracey Ullman used to be pdg but she moved to America and we lost her forever. I also like the lady that was on the Archers but then went into comedy. Can't remember her name though.

PS. I really like Steve Wright and Terry Wogan (Janet and John stories) but I guess I'm a sad old hag.
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« Reply #22 on: 25/09/2008 21:52:43 »
I lyst to one side, does that count?
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« Reply #23 on: 25/09/2008 23:24:17 »
Why wasn't Blaise Pascal in the list of mathematicians? Or John Napier?
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« Reply #24 on: 26/09/2008 22:33:08 »
Alan - when are you going to do a list of the best lists?

When google finds one for him to copy here.
Why wasn't Blaise Pascal in the list of mathematicians? Or John Napier?

The list google pointed to did not include them.

Alan why only male Scientists?

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« Reply #25 on: 26/09/2008 22:34:08 »
That's where he sees women, out in fields!

Nice list Don 1 but again no women. There are plenty of funny ladies out there.
When you say Steven wright are you talking about radio 2 Steve Wright, in the afternoon?

No, not that Steve Wright, the American comic Steven Wright.

As for the lack of women comics, I must confess I don't think there are any I would want to include, I just don't find them very funny. Saunders & French - not funny as comics, not funny when together, but as comedy actresses (apart) they can be hilarious. Ab Fab & The Vicar of Dibley are great fav's of mine.

It was rather remiss of me to miss out Jo Brand though and I pondered on Sandy Toksvig, but decided she is more satirist than comic.

Could't Sandy Toksvig be allowed on both list?

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« Reply #26 on: 28/09/2008 10:48:52 »
Each of these people on your list deserves their own thread in this part of the forum. I think this may have been one of the reasons your thread received negativity. One should not put all of them together because each person had a truly different and unique line of thought and direction, which is why they are indeed great people and should be remembered even if some of their discoveries are later built upon as this is the nature of science.

Bickering and ranting over each others posts on the forum has been developing over the last year.

We have a wonderful forum here and etiquette, consideration, toleration politeness, courtesy and humility are what keep our forum free from disruptive influence, which often destroys them.

So instead of being negative in your replies to a post, try being constructive as this is definitely the way forward for everyone. 

As for women scientists, each can be given their own thread too, as this is the reason for having this remembrance thread. So rather than stating there are none in the list, may I suggest you post more about these great minds and share them with everyone.

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Hi,

A list of great minds


 
The Nine Greatest Mathematicians

 

Could you rank them by greatness??

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« Reply #27 on: 29/09/2008 11:35:12 »
That's where he sees women, out in fields!

Nice list Don 1 but again no women. There are plenty of funny ladies out there.
When you say Steven wright are you talking about radio 2 Steve Wright, in the afternoon?

No, not that Steve Wright, the American comic Steven Wright.

As for the lack of women comics, I must confess I don't think there are any I would want to include, I just don't find them very funny. Saunders & French - not funny as comics, not funny when together, but as comedy actresses (apart) they can be hilarious. Ab Fab & The Vicar of Dibley are great fav's of mine.

It was rather remiss of me to miss out Jo Brand though and I pondered on Sandy Toksvig, but decided she is more satirist than comic.

Could't Sandy Toksvig be allowed on both list?

Yes Sandy Toksvig, Julie Walters, Victoria Wood should be inclluded on the list. As for Americans sorry I can't recall any now.
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« Reply #28 on: 29/09/2008 18:09:30 »
I love you Rosalind! Andrew rebukes us and you come along with some classic funny ladies.....brilliant.
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« Reply #29 on: 29/09/2008 23:25:14 »
I love you Rosalind! Andrew rebukes us and you come along with some classic funny ladies.....brilliant.

Sharon that's nice and what about the British female impressionist Jan Ravens, who has acted with the RSC (Royal Shakepeare Company) too. Anne Reid as well there are so many good british female good comedians and actreses.
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« Reply #30 on: 30/09/2008 11:32:20 »
I think Sue Perkins is one of the funniest women around today. And that Iranian comedian.

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« Reply #31 on: 30/09/2008 13:08:12 »
That Iranian Comedian isn't a woman though, thought I better clear that up!
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« Reply #32 on: 30/09/2008 19:09:27 »
Sharon there is an Iranian female comedian only I don't know her name sorry.

Blake I don't like Sue Perkins sense of humour much but I do like
Jenny Eclair loads she is talented and funny.

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« Reply #33 on: 30/09/2008 23:28:32 »
That Iranian Comedian isn't a woman though, thought I better clear that up!

She is - there are two Iranian comedians; one is a man, Omid Djalili, the other is a woman, Tissa Hami - though I agree she is an American-Iranian.

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« Reply #34 on: 01/10/2008 20:06:12 »
"there are two Iranian comedians"
Strewth! what an unfunny country. Surely there are more than 2.
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« Reply #35 on: 02/10/2008 13:57:11 »
There are three actually - the third is that president of theirs who comes out with Delphic stuff about obliterating people in the West.  [:o]

The joke is on him as he has very little power as it's all run by the clergy - a bit like us in the  fourteenth-century.

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« Reply #36 on: 16/10/2008 11:07:58 »
If you want to see men squirm girls, send in "Joe Brand" ! [:o]

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« Reply #37 on: 16/10/2008 12:42:09 »
I saw her live once - very tedious. She stopped being funny when she became famous.

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« Reply #38 on: 16/10/2008 22:25:08 »
I quite enjoy watching men being forced into chick flicks by their girlfriends. The best was sex in the city, just one man in the whole cinema. The man just sat with his head in his hands and when he got up to leave at the end the whole cinema gave him a round of applause.
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« Reply #39 on: 17/10/2008 16:40:00 »
I'm in trouble!

My Mrs wanted to see the Sound of Music stage play/musical.

I can't sit through that mind numbing rubbish. I saw the film once and was bored out of my mind.

I just can't stand musicals.
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« Reply #40 on: 18/10/2008 04:54:59 »
Hey.... I don't see my name on that list.. somethings wrong with this picture!  [;)] LOL.....

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« Reply #41 on: 18/10/2008 10:46:30 »
Hey.... I don't see my name on that list.. somethings wrong with this picture!  [;)] LOL.....

Ok I will add your names to the list: lol


Karen W should have been on this list originally.





It would have been if I'd posted it !!!
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