Have I calculated the value of infinity?

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« on: 18/01/2009 09:56:43 »
 I have the been researching the value of infinity, though i have did calculation on most of the series and binomial theorem i have got correct answer.
 
  Some member named MR Scientist had told joke ? That infinity can be squared and the value will be least the same! That doesn't make any sense.

 I am now researching on the value of infinity,
In my first experiment i had got the value of infinity like 0.value, My friend asked to substitute in integration. But the results came worse and again i saw the problem i got the answer something......... that was correct.

 I am now trying to solve equation based on e=mc2. If i get success in the value then, i will say the value of infinity.

 I am still working on it.

1)Any question can please send i will get u the answer using my infinity value.

 Once i proved the theorem then the bigger sum can be done in second !!!

Any suggestion please send !!
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« Reply #1 on: 18/01/2009 10:08:55 »
Huh [???] I don't get it, how can you be near to infinity? [???]

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« Reply #2 on: 18/01/2009 11:17:35 »

 I have the been researching the value of infinity, though i have did calculation on most of the series and binomial theorem i have got correct answer.
 
  Some member named MR Scientist had told joke ? That infinity can be squared and the value will be least the same! That doesn't make any sense.

 I am now researching on the value of infinity,
In my first experiment i had got the value of infinity like 0.value, My friend asked to substitute in integration. But the results came worse and again i saw the problem i got the answer something......... that was correct.

 I am now trying to solve equation based on e=mc2. If i get success in the value then, i will say the value of infinity.

 I am still working on it.

1)Any question can please send i will get u the answer using my infinity value.

 Once i proved the theorem then the bigger sum can be done in second !!!

Any suggestion please send !!
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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« Reply #3 on: 18/01/2009 11:23:57 »
I am now researching on the value of infinity,
Is this guy for real? [???][???][???]

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« Reply #4 on: 18/01/2009 18:07:16 »
Huh [???] I don't get it, how can you be near to infinity? [???]
I think he's Far Out!

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« Reply #5 on: 18/01/2009 18:23:53 »
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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I'll square that!
     (∞ + 1)2 = ∞
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!

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« Reply #6 on: 18/01/2009 19:17:32 »
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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I'll square that!
     (∞ + 1)2 = ∞
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!



So size does matter!  [:D]
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« Reply #7 on: 18/01/2009 19:50:22 »
Which infinity are we talking about here?
Is it the infinite set that contaoins all the integers or is it the rather larger infinite set that contains all the irrationals as well?
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« Reply #8 on: 18/01/2009 20:44:51 »
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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I'll square that!
     (∞ + 1)2 = ∞
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!


No because, by definition, my infinity is generated by adding one to every other infinity. I always beat your by 1... [:)]

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« Reply #9 on: 18/01/2009 20:45:20 »
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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I'll square that!
     (∞ + 1)2 = ∞
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!



So size does matter!  [:D]

Infinitely so! [:D]
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« Reply #10 on: 18/01/2009 20:46:40 »
When you get infinity, tell me; I will add 1 and I'll have a greater value than your...
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I'll square that!
     (∞ + 1)2 = ∞
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!


No because, by definition, my infinity is generated by adding one to every other infinity. I always beat your by 1... [:)]

Dang nabbit! I have been out infinitied!
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Re: Have I calculated the value of infinity?
« Reply #11 on: 19/01/2009 08:45:28 »
How long have you been doing this?

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Re: Have I calculated the value of infinity?
« Reply #12 on: 19/01/2009 08:54:51 »
 2 months

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« Reply #13 on: 19/01/2009 08:58:55 »
What are your qualifications?

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« Reply #14 on: 19/01/2009 09:10:47 »
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« Reply #15 on: 19/01/2009 17:05:21 »
Well, as all the biggest infinities have been claimed, I'm going to divide 1 by your biggest infinities to get the smallest infinity.

And I'm prepared to divide that by infinity too, if necessary  [;D]
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« Reply #16 on: 19/01/2009 21:03:34 »
2 months
After 20 yrs you might have some good ideas.

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« Reply #17 on: 19/01/2009 21:43:28 »
2 months
After 20 yrs you might have some good ideas.
Pessimist! I'm sure that 19.5 yrs would be more than enough  [;)]

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« Reply #18 on: 28/02/2009 14:20:10 »
The OP needs to get some life!!

What a way to start participating in this forum. He really made my day!

@sophiecentaur: He takes infinite days to find the value of infinity! ROFL!

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« Reply #19 on: 28/02/2009 14:46:12 »
Where ignorance is bliss 'tis folly to be wise.

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« Reply #20 on: 28/02/2009 15:27:30 »
hmmmm I onder if he will do a divide by zero thread....
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« Reply #21 on: 02/03/2009 04:21:39 »
This is the correct answer :



Well If u say that you have found a value before infinity it's meaningful if it's viewed in my way !!

-∞............................0..............................+∞

In the above case no matter any value which  u found before or after ∞ ....... You will always get a mid point in that series !!

No matter any value  0 or 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 .... or -3 or any value it will be always Mid point of infinite series ... GOT IT




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« Reply #22 on: 02/03/2009 06:39:51 »
I haven't GOT IT [???][???][???]

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« Reply #23 on: 02/03/2009 08:58:13 »
I haven't GOT IT [???][???][???]

well u should know concept of infinity

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« Reply #24 on: 02/03/2009 09:03:43 »
Nope.
Why don't you explain it to me? [:)]

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« Reply #25 on: 02/03/2009 09:09:23 »
Nope.
Why don't you explain it to me? [:)]

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« Reply #26 on: 02/03/2009 09:15:01 »
Nope.
Why don't you explain it to me? [:)]

Well well ok !! .... infinity is unlimited numbers !! right in unlimited if u pick up a number ... it will be always a mid point cos we can consider it as mid point when the condition is infinity !! hahhha GOT IT ??

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« Reply #27 on: 02/03/2009 09:15:17 »
Nope.
Why don't you explain it to me? [:)]

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Well well ok !! .... infinity is unlimited numbers !! right in unlimited if u pick up a number ... it will be always a mid point cos we can consider it as mid point when the condition is infinity !! hahhha GOT IT ??

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« Reply #28 on: 02/03/2009 09:18:25 »
What are you trying to say?
That infinity is not infinitely infinite?

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What are you trying to say?
That infinity is not infinitely infinite?

if a number is unlimited 12345678990.............................................................................................. to infinity u can consider any point as mid point !! GOT IT >>???

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« Reply #30 on: 02/03/2009 09:24:20 »
Well yes, I get that.
But what happened to the concept of infinity? [:)] I thought you were going to explain it. [???]

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« Reply #31 on: 02/03/2009 09:27:23 »
Well yes, I get that.
But what happened to the concept of infinity? [:)] I thought you were going to explain it. [???]
this is the concept !! GOT IT lol ... oh common dude ... concept is 
if u r taking any  point in infinity it will be always a midpoint no matter what !??! this is the theory  ........ in math !!

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« Reply #32 on: 02/03/2009 09:29:20 »
Alright! I get it. I was just pulling your leg [:)]

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« Reply #33 on: 02/03/2009 09:30:34 »
dividing by zero is a lot more fun.... hmmm infinity divided by zero... bwahahaahhaha
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« Reply #34 on: 02/03/2009 09:34:30 »
dividing by zero is a lot more fun....
Infinitely so!

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« Reply #35 on: 02/03/2009 16:31:13 »
Have you ever considered selecting one particular member of the ScientificBoysClub for the LHC proton beam experiment ?
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« Reply #36 on: 21/11/2009 09:41:42 »
 no ...

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« Reply #37 on: 21/11/2009 12:11:56 »
Ininfities... an infinitely hard concept to grasp, from any level of expertize.
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« Reply #38 on: 21/11/2009 17:50:15 »
Infinity is not a number. I don't know what it is, but I know if I add one cantalope to a thousand watermellons, I still have a thousand watermellons.....

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« Reply #39 on: 21/11/2009 18:02:17 »
They say that mathematics is an abstract. But if the general math we work with today is so abstractual, then we know nothing really, as when it comes down to it, singularities are a nightmare, and yet the closest thing to God.
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« Reply #40 on: 21/11/2009 18:04:36 »
I think you can only properly regard infinity as a dynamic number i.e. time, in the sense of before and after, is an intrinsic factor, but this means you can't really use it in static equations and make much sense.

For example, the static equation 1 + 1 = 2 is always true...

but if you try to use infinity in such an equation...

  ∞ + 1 = ∞

therefore ∞ - ∞ = 1

which leaves us with 0 = 1
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« Reply #41 on: 21/11/2009 18:08:09 »
I think you can only properly regard infinity as a dynamic number i.e. time, in the sense of before and after, is an intrinsic factor, but this means you can't really use it in static equations and make much sense.

For example, the static equation 1 + 1 = 2 is always true...

but if you try to use infinity in such an equation...

  ∞ + 1 = ∞

therefore ∞ - ∞ = 1

which leaves us with 0 = 1

That is a mathematical fallacy.
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« Reply #42 on: 21/11/2009 18:59:29 »
I think you can only properly regard infinity as a dynamic number i.e. time, in the sense of before and after, is an intrinsic factor, but this means you can't really use it in static equations and make much sense.

For example, the static equation 1 + 1 = 2 is always true...

but if you try to use infinity in such an equation...

  ∞ + 1 = ∞

therefore ∞ - ∞ = 1

which leaves us with 0 = 1

That is a mathematical fallacy.
Can you show why?

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« Reply #43 on: 21/11/2009 21:08:53 »
That is a mathematical fallacy.

I think that was LeeE's point. You can't do math with infinity. It has no value!  [;D]

(It may also be "pointless". --- OK! OK! No need to push. I was just about to leave anyway.)
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« Reply #44 on: 22/11/2009 02:39:13 »
I think you can only properly regard infinity as a dynamic number i.e. time, in the sense of before and after, is an intrinsic factor, but this means you can't really use it in static equations and make much sense.

For example, the static equation 1 + 1 = 2 is always true...

but if you try to use infinity in such an equation...

  ∞ + 1 = ∞

therefore ∞ - ∞ = 1

which leaves us with 0 = 1

That is a mathematical fallacy.
Can you show why?

Of course i can.

I'll prove the infinity part to be completely irrelevent by showing the reduction 0=1 is of absurdum:

let x=1

Take the derivative of both sides which inexorably yields:

d/dx(x)=d/dx(1)

so naturally one would expect 1=0 as a solution, but the fallacy lies in treating x as a variable which can change over some given time. That in a nutshell disproves the entire theory.
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« Reply #45 on: 22/11/2009 12:21:10 »
I can't see what you've proved at all there.

Of course the reduction to 0 = 1 is absurd.  That was the point.
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« Reply #46 on: 23/11/2009 00:16:15 »
I can't see what you've proved at all there.

Of course the reduction to 0 = 1 is absurd.  That was the point.

Yes, that point was made for you. I thought you intended it was correct. I was wrong in this case, and apologize.
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« Reply #47 on: 23/11/2009 00:19:04 »
But it might interest many here to know, that this type of rigor has been violated early on in physics history. I can't remember who exactly, but many scientists (who's theories today) hold had messed about using concepts like ∞ - ∞ = 1.

It's not so much that they are fallacies, but more of an indication that the equations derived are not complete.
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« Reply #48 on: 23/11/2009 11:54:57 »

Of course i can.

I'll prove the infinity part to be completely irrelevent by showing the reduction 0=1 is of absurdum:

let x=1

Take the derivative of both sides which inexorably yields:

d/dx(x)=d/dx(1)

so naturally one would expect 1=0 as a solution, but the fallacy lies in treating x as a variable which can change over some given time. That in a nutshell disproves the entire theory.
No the fallacy is in this: from ∞ + 1 = ∞ (which is true) you cannot deduce that ∞ - ∞ = 1 because you are not allowd to sum or subtract infinite from both sides of an equation; you can do that only with *finite* numbers.
Example:

2 = 2 but: 2 + x ≠ 2 + x2

if x --> +∞ in the last equation, you have 2 + ∞ ≠ 2 + ∞.

Said in another way: infinite is not a number, it can actually "have" an arbitrary value, so from 2 = 2 it doesn't follow that 2 + ∞ = 2 + ∞.
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« Reply #49 on: 23/11/2009 12:28:30 »
Infinity means not finite and it means infinity can't be a number. There are infinite numbers but when it comes to existence number of apples can't be infinite. Infinite is just the opposite of finite and any number is finite but never infinite. For more information please visit my blog
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