can a neutron gun be made?

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« on: 02/02/2009 21:05:46 »
what all do you think could be done with a neutron gun and how do you think you would make one. I am not a terrorist I am just wondering.  [;D]

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« Reply #1 on: 02/02/2009 21:13:35 »
Here is how you would do it:

Take a lead tube and plug one end of it up with a lead plug.
Inside the smoke detectors (if you've got one), there is some Americanicium-241, I don't know where it is exactly (there was one time they did it on a podcast in Kitchen science), but remove it and place it inside your lead tube. You might try using a Geiger counter to find it (if you've got one [:D]
Plug the remaining open end with another lead plug, but drill a very small hole all the way through this one.
Place an aluminium foil over the end of the tube with the hole and hold it in place with a rubber band.

REMEMBER: the aluminum foil must cover the hole, this is essential to its operation!

CONGRATULATIONS! You've just made a neutron gun!

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« Reply #2 on: 02/02/2009 21:31:45 »
And as for what can be done with a neutron gun...





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« Reply #3 on: 02/02/2009 21:37:28 »
But you're not going to kill anyone with it anytime soon. [xx(]

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« Reply #4 on: 03/02/2009 00:06:26 »
What about a proton gun or an electron gun?

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« Reply #5 on: 03/02/2009 02:47:50 »
thanks allot, how much americium would it take? and no i would not kill anyone with it  [::)] lol

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« Reply #6 on: 03/02/2009 02:53:20 »
As much as you want! Or what ever you can fit into the lead tube.

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« Reply #7 on: 03/02/2009 02:56:46 »
A couple of smoke detectors will do nicely! [;D][;D]

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« Reply #8 on: 03/02/2009 03:19:14 »
ha ha thanks allot chem4me. now lets get down to the real neutron gun [;D]   lol what would you have to do as a power source for transmuting elements.

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« Reply #9 on: 03/02/2009 03:21:18 »
Sorry?

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« Reply #10 on: 03/02/2009 03:26:21 »
ok last question how would you use it. I mean how would you point it and make it hit the object you want?

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« Reply #11 on: 03/02/2009 03:29:47 »
If you wanna do something like transmutate radioactive elements like thorium into uranium, radium will have to be used as a radioactive source, don't know where you're going to get some though...

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« Reply #12 on: 03/02/2009 03:30:59 »
Also, you might want to try and use berrylium instead of aluminium as it will put out more neutrons...

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« Reply #13 on: 03/02/2009 03:31:55 »
ok last question how would you use it. I mean how would you point it and make it hit the object you want?
What do you mean: how would would you point it?[???][???]

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« Reply #14 on: 03/02/2009 03:37:26 »
well when you fire at something you have to aim it don't you? i don't see how it would hit the element you are trying to transmutate if the neutrons are being kicked back into the lead pipe?

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« Reply #15 on: 03/02/2009 03:38:38 »
But that is not how it works! Let me explain....

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« Reply #16 on: 03/02/2009 03:40:33 »
ok please do [:)]

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« Reply #17 on: 03/02/2009 03:43:04 »
The lead tube (and the plug) will block the radiation leaving it so there is only one place to exit the tube: the small hole. Alpha-particles will flow out of this hole, when they come into contact with the nuclei of the aluminium, the atoms will absorb these particles and through some weird (but not unexpected) reaction begin to release a steady stream of neutrons.
That is how your neutron gun works.

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« Reply #18 on: 03/02/2009 03:45:31 »
OK i think i get it [:)] so the neutrons don't go back into the pipe they are kicked out the other end of the aluminum

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« Reply #19 on: 03/02/2009 03:46:41 »
Correct [:)] but berylium would be even better!

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« Reply #20 on: 03/02/2009 03:49:42 »
OK thanks allot. what do you think would happen if you bombarded human flesh with neutrons? just wondering. that's one of those questions that just pop up lol

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« Reply #21 on: 03/02/2009 03:54:04 »
Ummm... this gun won't do much.
Neutrons are absorbed by hydrogen-rich materials.
But this might give you a better idea.

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« Reply #22 on: 03/02/2009 03:57:34 »
thanks a ton [:)] you have been a huge help. o and would you mind if i messaged you tomarrow, I have to head to bead, it is 12 o'clock where I am at.

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« Reply #23 on: 03/02/2009 04:00:22 »
Messaged me? What? What do you mean?
But sure, I'll be here tomorrow (I think [:D])

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« Reply #24 on: 03/02/2009 04:04:03 »
You mean you actually plan on making one? [:o][:o]

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« Reply #25 on: 03/02/2009 08:50:33 »
You would find it difficult to prove that this "neutron gun" actually produces neutrons unless you have a good detector.
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« Reply #26 on: 03/02/2009 09:01:09 »
But theoretically speaking, it should work.

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« Reply #27 on: 03/02/2009 20:33:22 »
right, that was my question how to prove it was producing neutrons? so how would i do that? and yeah i have everything i need right in my work room [:)]

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« Reply #28 on: 03/02/2009 21:04:41 »
Umm...getta a Geiger counter....

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« Reply #29 on: 03/02/2009 21:40:19 »
OK thanks allot I will tell you how it goes it should be done buy tomarrow and after that would you want to help me with my next project?  [;D] lol

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« Reply #30 on: 03/02/2009 21:43:56 »
Well, be very very careful dude, pay attention to what you are doing at ALL times.
And keep me updated too! I want to hear how it goes! You've got me very intrigued... [;D]

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« Reply #31 on: 04/02/2009 02:44:14 »
ha ha OK i just bought my smoke alarms and I am getting the AM out now [:)] I am having problems finding the lead piping that I need, is there any suggestions on how to get that?

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« Reply #32 on: 04/02/2009 02:53:14 »
The suppliers?

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« Reply #33 on: 04/02/2009 02:54:24 »
http://www.hmsmetalcorporation.com/
http://www.gravitausa.com/LeadPipe.html

See, I have no idea where you live but I'm sure you'll find some. [:)]

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« Reply #34 on: 04/02/2009 03:17:24 »
thanks allot OK i just got some of the AM. out and am working on the others. [:)] now the am radiation is so low and alpha decay is very low penetrating do you think i should still be supper cautious over it. i mean the radiation will do good to penetrate even the epidermis of my skin, but i still wrapped the source in a big ball of aluminum [:)] just to be safe. lol

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« Reply #35 on: 04/02/2009 03:21:27 »
Yes, you should be very cautious, it probably would have been better if you had gotten the lead tubing first then taken the Am out, but never mind. Pay attention to what you're doing, I can't stress that enough...

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« Reply #36 on: 04/02/2009 03:36:45 »
ok thanks and I will. and now I will be putting on my mask and gloves and be .way more cautious [:)]

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« Reply #37 on: 04/02/2009 03:50:11 »
so... if I can get the lead pipe and plugs then the neutron gun should be finished in about a good week. I did not know I would have trouble with the pipe. but i will get it [:)] so what do you think of the project?

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« Reply #38 on: 04/02/2009 03:51:10 »
Is it for school or something like that? I think it is pretty cool that you're actually going to make it.

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« Reply #39 on: 04/02/2009 03:57:29 »
Okay, so tell me again, what materials do you have? Exact numbers please [;D]

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« Reply #40 on: 04/02/2009 03:59:15 »
OK I have 5 smoke alarms, will get 1 lead pipe and 2 plugs and 1 thing of foil.

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« Reply #41 on: 04/02/2009 04:03:28 »
5 smoke alarms! Jeez! [:D]

Is it a school project? For the Science Show or something?

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« Reply #42 on: 04/02/2009 04:06:20 »
ha ha no I am just Bord and wanted to do something I think after this I may make astrolite.lol but yeah do you think it would do well in a science fair or something?

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« Reply #43 on: 04/02/2009 04:09:15 »
Astrolite you say... hmmm... Is that your next project? [:D][:D]

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« Reply #44 on: 04/02/2009 04:10:42 »
yep...[:)] i like that it is twice as stable as TNT and nitroglycerin and has more power behind it. lol

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« Reply #45 on: 04/02/2009 04:13:26 »
Dude, you're starting to freak me out! Whatever happened to not killing anybody?

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« Reply #46 on: 04/02/2009 04:15:21 »
ha ha no I wouldn't do that. I just like explosives and things like that. but no I have no intention of killing anyone.

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« Reply #47 on: 04/02/2009 04:22:43 »
Well, I am glad to know, very glad! *sigh of relief*.

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« Reply #48 on: 04/02/2009 04:28:29 »
ha ha what guy doesn't like things that go boom lol but what would you do for a project? I may  do that. if its good of course. lol

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« Reply #49 on: 04/02/2009 04:33:52 »
but what would you do for a project?
Unfortunately, all of my projects are boring. If you want projects you should ask Make it Lady, she hows how to make things, hence her name, and she is good too, PLUS, she also knows her chemistry!
I'm just going to make some synthetic fibre and boring stuff like that...