Have you ever butchered animals for food, if not could you if you needed to?

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Offline Karen W.

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Just Curious my family raised chickens ducks etc.. and I was aware of the process and hated it.. I know how to do it  but it would drive me insane to have to take its life!

I can barely squish an ants but I do.. I don"t like them on the food surfaces..

What about you?

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Do fishies count?

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Yes I suppose they should!
I used to catch them but could not eat them... not nice eh?

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Did you butcher your whittle gold fish???

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Nah, I'm a bit edgy when I have to pull out fish guts. I just watched my mother.

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Fish, rabbit, pheasant, duck, lamb......

I'm afraid that I don't have any qualms when it comes to providing food, and infact, it is possibly more environmentally friendly to do it yourself....

However, I see no point in needless ant stamping. The two principles are in my opinion mutually exclusive.

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Nah, I'm a bit edgy when I have to pull out fish guts. I just watched my mother.
Yeah I know what you mean.. it makes me so sick and nauseous...

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Fish, rabbit, pheasant, duck, lamb......

I'm afraid that I don't have any qualms when it comes to providing food, and infact, it is possibly more environmentally friendly to do it yourself....

However, I see no point in needless ant stamping. The two principles are in my opinion mutually exclusive.
Do you ever have trouble with ants in the kitchen.. or even there at all?

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I did in my office last year - they had made a nest in one of my pot plants (that's a plant in a pot, not something that renders you a twiglet fiend) and so I took it outside into the woods, where I'm sure they still live in peace and cosmic harmony.

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Good boy but when they decided to take over my bread my stove and my sugar canister I sprayed around all my door frames and windows and floor boards and pipes and voila they all disappeared!   They are not my cup of tea.. a bit spicy for me..LOL..

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Pheasant & Hare.

I see no problem with killing for food, so long as you make good use of the entire animal, even down to boiling the bones for soup.

I annoys me to see people in fast food outlets who order a burger (or similar) and leave half of it.
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Pheasant & Hare.

I see no problem with killing for food, so long as you make good use of the entire animal, even down to boiling the bones for soup.

I annoys me to see people in fast food outlets who order a burger (or similar) and leave half of it.

Quite so. I forgot deer. Since deer need to be culled for population controls (oh! and boar) it makes perfect sense to me to make use of this for food.

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Do you both Hunt?

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I have done some, but much of the game meat comes from foresters who do.

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Are permits to hunt hard to come by there?

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The licence to own a rifle is not an easy path, but is open to all. The area in which you can hunt has to be owned by you, or <ou have to be invited by someone who owns the area, so just because you have a hunting licence, this does not mean that you can just go and hunt.

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Wow that must be difficult if you live by your own means?

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An old colleague of mine used to bring game down from his home in Norfolk.

I'm very partial to venison and can't understand why some go all squishy over eating it. UK butchers must have a license to sell venison, I get mine from Newport Pagnell. Their's comes from the annual cull at Woburn. A necessity to stop the deer overpopulating the grounds and eating themselves out of house & home.
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I'm very partial to venison and can't understand why some go all squishy over eating it.

This is the "Bambi" effect. "How can you kill something so pretty, you heartless beast?"

A necessity to stop the deer overpopulating the grounds and eating themselves out of house & home.

This is the reality. "Something should be done to help maintain the deer population and their health and vitality."

 

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Freddy, aged 11, went off with our 2'2' air rifle lay down in the garden and shot two pigeons. Sadly they weren't killed cleanly so I had to do some neck pulling. I'm not keen on the killing bit but if you do it then you have to do the animal justice by cooking and eating it. I did a lovely pigeon breast stir fry with the fresh meat. Freddy by this time had gone off the idea of being the mighty hunter.
He watched the Jamie Oliver program on breading and slaughtering pigs though and was quite unphased.
I was brought up on a farm and butchering the animals was the end of a process. Making that end quick and stress free for the animal is the only thing that we can do if we eat meat and want to be part of that process.
When it comes to fish though...YUK! I think it is the slime and the eyes and the smell that puts me off. I think I never experienced fishing as a child so haven't got used to it.
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MiL - If the fish is fresh, then the smell should be minimal - the same for the slime.

I've also collected mussels in Scotland, which you stick into boiling liquid (wine and cream - yum!)

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I had an uncle who was a shooter and by the time I was 14 I could prepare anything for the table - rabbits, venison, pheasants, partridges, grouse, pigeons and all manner of fish. I still can but could never kill anything myself anymore, not even ants.

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MiL - If the fish is fresh, then the smell should be minimal - the same for the slime.

dentstudent is right - as Gordon Ramsey said: 'If your fish shop smells of fish - keep walking'.

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I killed some bread by toasting it !
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I have no qualms eating bread either Neilep.
As long as they don't fight back.

But then, I'm easily scared:)
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If I toast bread then it oftne turns to charcoal (I burn it) daily almost.

I am too squeamish to kill anything let alone a fly/ant/animal.
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I have no qualms eating bread either Neilep.
As long as they don't fight back.

But then, I'm easily scared:)

Ewe are always welcome round my house for non-scarey toast !  [;)]


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Ah, would that be a charcoaled handprint?

As I said, I'm soo easily scared:)
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Why, In my younger days I was the great white hunter. I hunted birds, deer, feral hogs (just as mean and dangerous as boar) fished - and ate them all. When in college I worked at a summer internship in Corpus Christi, Texas, a sea port in South Texas. My roommates and I fished, caught crabs and never bought meat, except for bacon. The long days of summer - not dark until about 9 PM - gave us time to go to the piers and docks, catch our food and come home and clean it before bed. And the fishing was so good you didn't need to do this but once a week or so.

I have also spent time wwith friends wwho kept their own flock of chickens - just like a goose you have shot: very hot water to soften the skin and the feathers to de-feather, cut the skin completely around the cloaca, reach in and pull out the guts, wash completely. Fresh free range chicken.

This whole subject is very informative to me about the way our society hides death from us. Death is part and parcel of life. That we should place all sorts of barriers between ourselves and death engenders fear and squeamishness. One summer during high school I worked at a geriatric hospital. People died - and the staff cleaned and prepared the bodies for the funeral home.
It was probably the most important job of my life as it gave me a perspective that would have otherwise been kept from me. Seeing death up close, be it of fish fowl, pigs, cows or human, give one a perspective few have and gives you a greater appreciation of life and less fear of it ending.

OK, I have gone all philosophical on y'all.

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When in college I worked at a summer internship in Corpus Christi, Texas, a sea port in South Texas. My roommates and I fished, caught crabs and never bought meat

Did you get them seen too?

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I watched a few episodes of Kill it Cook it Eat it on one of the BBC channels. I found the whole process interesting. I have never done anything like that myself but would be willing to give it a go.
I don't have an issues with hunting but only when the animal killed is put to use afterwards i.e. a tasty meal [:)]
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The sad thing is that we have lost the skill of dispatching animals quickly and cleanly. Even though I was a farmers daughter, we sold the farm when I reached my teens so I lost the knack and can't pass on that knowledge. Killing is harder than it looks on TV. It is much easier if you can learn from someone.
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Killing is harder than it looks on TV. It is much easier if you can learn from someone.

Oh no doubt, it's the reason why I wouldn't mind trying for myself.
I only mentioned the programme as I thought it was quite insightful with different views and opinions to the whole aspect of hunting. Had some veggies on there  [::)]  [;)]
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I grew up in a hunting family so seeing an animal killed and butchered doesn't bother me in the least.  When I was growing up my dad used to have me help after he cleaned the dear.  I would have to help him grind some of it for venison burger and wrap and label it.  I hated the chore, not because I was disgusted, but because I found it so incredibly boring and none of my friends had to do it, their parents got their meat from a supermarket!

I also married a hunter and both of my children have killed deer.  Now thankfully, they take their kills to a deer processor who does the work for them.  Our freezers are full every year of venison, usually much more than we can eat, but we also give a great deal of it away to friends and to homeless shelters.
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When in college I worked at a summer internship in Corpus Christi, Texas, a sea port in South Texas. My roommates and I fished, caught crabs and never bought meat

Did you get them seen too?


No - what we would do to get rid of them was sprinkle sand liberally on our groins, keep the area rather wet with cheap whiskey and let the crabs get drunk and stone each other to death.

It was rather difficult as what we caught were blue crabs, and we kept only the large ones - there were too many otherwise. Ever try to get these even into your pants???

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While we're discussing JimBob's crabs, here is some RSPCA advice about how to humanely dispatch your crustaceans...


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Probably NOT let them boil to death as I usually do - Mwhhaahaaaaa,  Mwhhaahaaaaa,  Mwhhaahaaaaa!
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Where do royal crabs catch trains?

Kings cross station.
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That must be an English joke. I don't get it.
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