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quote:Or is it that they are the same particle just present in two places in space?
quote:Originally posted by DoctorBeaver"Black holes have no hair", n'est-ce pas?Sure, you can send in a particle & observe its twin. But if you do something to affect the particle you're observing there is no way of ever knowing if that has affected the particle you sent into the black hole.
quote:Originally posted by chimeraAh, meaning you can receive 'information' from a black hole? Any resolution of the state would be transferred 'information' despite the black hole being an absolute gravity pit with no return? Only the information would be useless, right?Unless of course the mini-black hole (let's stay realistic here) could be *entirely* built up of halves of virtual pairs, meaning you can control its growth both ways because you are in fact creating it with its own Hawking radiation, which you can put a stop to or speed up at will. The state of the black hole could then be 'read' in the cloud of particles around it, and hey, maybe we have our first intergalactic tincan-and-wire gravity phone? Who knows? Any disturbance inside the black hole not by your hand would constitute an actual phenomenon begging to be investigated, I guess.The living are the dead on holiday. -- Maurice de Maeterlinck (1862-1949)
quote:If one fell into the black hole, it would resolve the state, since it would interact with the event horizon. This would resolve the state, and you could look at the one. The other would be frozen at the event horizon, in the same state.
quote:It is also entirely possible that the whole particle could disappear from gravitational redshift before it passes the event horizon
quote:Originally posted by DoctorBeaverquote:It is also entirely possible that the whole particle could disappear from gravitational redshift before it passes the event horizonCould that actually happen? Would it be that the pull of gravity would totally drain its energy so it just went phut?
quote:The gravitational redshift would stretch the wavelengths so the particle might not be visible. You can't see an electron unless the radiation has a wavelength shorter than the size of an electron.