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Quote from: neilep on 04/02/2010 16:07:05I don't even think the moon is real. I think it's a big balloon hoax to make us think we have a natural satellite. You are quite correct Comrade Sheepy. NASA accidentally destroyed it with an unmanned spacecraft, so they had to replace it with a large cardboard replica stuck to a balloon. If you look at it carefully with that telescope of yours you can actually see that the images only have two dimensions. How much more proof do we need?That's why they had to fake the whole moon landing thing. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this. I suppose it's because the US is beaming thought control waves from their satellites.
I don't even think the moon is real. I think it's a big balloon hoax to make us think we have a natural satellite.
I shield my brain with a lead lined sporran.
Hi CosmoredForgive me, I came late to this discussion. I understand that you are an advocate of the notion that the Apollo project of the 60s and 70s of the last century never really happened; that a conspiracy to simulate the project's ambitions, setbacks and successes was and is afoot.Well as a schoolboy then I was excited and inspired by Apollo; followed it closely for a decade and more; watched Neil live on black & white low res TV in class with my school mates, teachers, an enlightened principal, support staff & many others crammed into the TV room as Neil for us all placed a human footprint on our Moon.And now...and now you tell me that...it didn't really happen!! Well you can imagine my disappointment with this news. But you know, I cling to a hope that it did happen; that we together there in July 69 in that little local school were a small part of it. And even given that the Apollo project may have been politically and ideologically driven, in my view the Apollo effort was the greatest, most noble, most courageous, most inspirational achievement of humanity on our Earth in our twentieth century. Well, that's if it really happened...sigh.So tell me Cosmored please, give it your single best shot, your single best piece of evidence, your single incontrovertible truth, your best single bedrock of fact; that which within one statement supported by evidence convinces me that I was misled about Apollo. That's not too much to ask is it? To support or destroy my life's inspiration?The reason I ask for just one, your single best piece of evidence supporting the alleged conspiracy theory about Apollo is because I'm reminded of Albert Einstein, a German Jew. With regard to some theory or another proposed by Einstein, may have been Relativity (Special or General), may have been something else, Adolph Hitler of Nazi infamy assembled "one hundred scientists against Einstein".Albert said "Why one hundred? If I'm wrong, one is enough."So please Cosmored, just one is enough. Just one smoking gun. Your best single shot. If that is true for you, then all is true. If that fails, then all fails. Please, what is it?SincerelyDemocritus
Anomalies that debunkers dont dare to touch.Sure, they try to explain away the weird shadow lines, the exposure issues,the "c" rock, but they dont go deeper than that.
Quote from: FoosM on 14/02/2010 22:52:13Anomalies that debunkers dont dare to touch.Sure, they try to explain away the weird shadow lines, the exposure issues,the "c" rock, but they dont go deeper than that.No?Here's your "anomalies" explained (in great detail): http://www3.telus.net/summa/moonshot/index.htm
But that might not be enough. Maybe you are hanging on by another string. Question you should ask, what is it that makes you so sure they went?What is the evidence for it, and then we can see if that can be contradicted.
The man in the sketch paid for his argument.
FoosM. Please note that the pictures are older than photoshop.
The man in the sketch paid for his argument.Anyway, Cosmored. As I pointed out, there is nothing that anyone could possibly post here that would convince you. Trying to do so would be a waste of time.Also, FoosM needs to learn the difference between a tripod and a biped.
The official NASA position on the Chinese space walk is that it was real.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us8xLsQ1MIEhttp://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldAhttp://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDEhttp://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/What do you pro-Apollo people have to say about this?
Willing to get robbed and pillaged by NAZI's and their bankers.
Strawman alert! roll eyesI never said there was no editing. I know all about the original "cut and paste". I also know that it's easier with digital image processing. What I said was not that it was impossible- just more difficult.
True enough but, at the time it wasn't easy because not only was there no photoshop, there was no digital photography or editing.
Quote from: Cosmored on 17/02/2010 18:22:08The official NASA position on the Chinese space walk is that it was real.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us8xLsQ1MIEhttp://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldAhttp://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDEhttp://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/What do you pro-Apollo people have to say about this?Well, here's a quote from one of those websites with my emphasis."Dr. Qu Zheng, Senior Physics Engineer of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, analyzed the inconsistencies in the live video-feed. The questionable points include that earth’s atmosphere was not visible. A cloud suddenly changed in an obvious fashion, there was no background noise as in past conversations between the astronauts in the spacecraft and regime leader Hu Jintao on earth. The video showed the craft flying over the ocean while it was supposed to be over land according orbit calculations."It doesn't look like they fooled NASA.Incidentally, since, even with today's vastly better technology and a totalitarian society, the Chinese can't come up with a fake that isn't spotted damn near instantly, can anyone explain how NASA did so much better nigh half a century ago?This is probably the best evidence for the fact that the Apollo stuff was real. It's proof that it's bloody hard to fake space.
Laugh it up fuzzball, but dont be surprised when your internet is taken away and your skies are full of drones. You'll be crying crocodile tears while your waiting hours in the bread lines.
Damn you Geezer!I was hoping to pick up the bounty for shopping FoosM to the "authorities".I will just have to make do with the cash for grassing up Cosmored but the "powers that be" were doing a special on doubles.Bugger!
Quote from: FoosM on 18/02/2010 00:25:01Laugh it up fuzzball, but dont be surprised when your internet is taken away and your skies are full of drones. You'll be crying crocodile tears while your waiting hours in the bread lines.Thanks for your concern, but don't worry about me. The profit margin on drones is huge. Some might even call it obscene.
Foos, Perhaps you missed my last post. If you did, I'd be really interested in hearing your theory on how the US managed to control all those who paticipated in the deception for such a long time. I think this information would be really useful to the NSA. Perhaps you could even work out a deal with them.
I wonder how it feels to think that we didn't go to the moon. ------I wonder how it feels to continue to believe in something that clearly is based on fraud. I suppose, it doesn't matter one way or the other in my life. Whether I believe one way or the other doesn't change my income, doesn't change my love life, doesn't change my belief in an afterlife, doesn't change my looks, doesn't change my taxes, etc. This is just one of those astronomy things, like the Big Bang or the Nebular Hypothesis, where we can simply sit around and give our own opinions.