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« Reply #350 on: 03/08/2006 23:27:39 »
In terms of weather, my favourite winter was in Munich, where temperatures were low enough to dry out the air you never got wet, and if you dressed appropriately for the weather, you did not get cold.

In the south of England, the day after you get snow, as likely as not you will get slush.

There were a few good years of cold winters, like '82, or going back to my childhood, '63; but not many.

I don't like shopping, and I don't like present buying.  The trouble is that for most people, unless you are particularly fortunate and spot something particularly unusual that you think will be just right for someone, but they would not have thought of it for themselves; you are buying for them something which if they would have wanted they would have bought for themselves.  Usually, when I give a present, I am absolutely terrified that I have misjudged what I have bought, and they really do not like or want it.  I know that I am equally impossible to buy presents for, and generally ask people not to buy me presents.

In general, I'd much rather buy presents opportunistically, rather than occasionally in other words, I'd rather if I happen to see something by chance that I think would make a good present for someone, to buy it even if there is no occasion to buy it; rather than worry throughout the Christmas period (or around their birthday) that I cannot find anything appropriate for the occasion and the recipient.



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« Reply #351 on: 04/08/2006 02:46:05 »
Thats a good policy and one I use all year round. I love to buy presents for people and I probably have bought the wrong things on occasion, but for the most part, I have usually done ok!But it is so fun to think about something cool that the person would like, cosidering their interests ect. I like to really think about it real good before I go hunting for the perfect gift!

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« Reply #352 on: 04/08/2006 03:34:10 »
I love the Christmas season...but hate the shopping and don't step foot in any door after Thanksgiving...gosh, I just forgot what it will be like without Denny here for Christmas?...I am in a bit of a shock after reading this thinking of the things we have done in the past...wow...

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« Reply #353 on: 04/08/2006 06:47:53 »
Sorry Lo, Didn't mean to cause you any pain! Be well ok?

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« Reply #354 on: 04/08/2006 07:39:46 »
You didn't and it is better sooner than later... :-)  I know I am as slow as Christmas getting over someone but eventually I will.

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« Reply #355 on: 04/08/2006 08:59:22 »
Oh Loretta , I love you! Big Big HUGS HONEY!

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« Reply #356 on: 04/08/2006 15:06:13 »
You are too sweet Queenie Mod!  LOL  Love ya too and bigg hugzzzz to you too!!

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« Reply #357 on: 05/08/2006 03:55:57 »
I have never been in romantic love, I've had a few crushes and girlfriends but none I could truly say I loved.

Everyone say awwww.

Once I experience it I will judge if I want to work out why it happens lol.

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« Reply #358 on: 05/08/2006 05:40:39 »
Awww, little Steven...how wonderful for you!!!  Good for you!!!  :-)

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« Reply #359 on: 05/08/2006 06:31:29 »
Well, I hope you find your true love steven. That was my brothers name! Nice!

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« Reply #360 on: 05/08/2006 07:00:16 »
Awww, love...is it worth the heartbreak or is it heartache?  LOL

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« Reply #361 on: 05/08/2006 07:18:19 »
Loretta, I don't know what to think anymore! You trust someone with everything you have you give them everything you are and they just use you and hurt you! Why do people do that, Am I just naive, isn't anything precious anymore? Doesn't loving someone with everything you have count for anything? I'm sorry, I guess I am having a real bad night here!

  Did you get my email, The cute little hippo! I sent one to everyone! Was so touching!

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« Reply #362 on: 05/08/2006 08:16:04 »
WHERE THE HECK ARE YOU lORETTA?

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« Reply #363 on: 05/08/2006 08:28:27 »
gotta love a cynic Karen :-D. Your brother has a great name :-D.
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« Reply #364 on: 05/08/2006 08:36:00 »
NOT MUCH OF A CINIC. I AM ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC TRUE LOVE BELIEVING GALS YOU WILL EVER MEET! JUST FEELING A BIT SHAKEN TONIGHT, PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD! I LOVE,LOVE, MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT I KNOW ITS THERE AND IT EXISTS! YES I LOVED MY BROTHERS NAME. I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM FOR 12 YEARS, I MISS HIM VERY MUCH!

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« Reply #365 on: 05/08/2006 08:41:39 »
I have to go to work in about 1 hr 30 mins and now I am even sadder.
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« Reply #366 on: 05/08/2006 09:37:03 »


Morning everyone.

Welcome Steven.

Thanks for the hippo e-mail Karen- how cute was that.

Did you get my e-mail.


Love you lots.

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« Reply #367 on: 05/08/2006 09:55:39 »
Yep! Message recieved and replied Helena.

Steven, why are you sadder now then before?

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« Reply #368 on: 05/08/2006 14:48:56 »
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Originally posted by Grecian
Morning everyone.

Welcome Steven.

Thanks for the hippo e-mail Karen- how cute was that.

Did you get my e-mail.


Love you lots.

Helena  xxx




Yes, cute pics but may I suggest that as a point of etiquette, when you forward other people's posts, you remove all of the headers.

Everyone receiving these posts is receiving with them a ready made mailing list that would be a gold mine for any spammer.  This is not just you I know it has happened to lots of other people before, where they forward a mail, leaving the original headers; the person they forward it to also forwards it with even more headers attached, and very soon the copy of this email is wondering around the Internet with hundreds of email addresses attached, all waiting to be added to someone's database of email addresses.  The people whose email addresses you are forwarding in that way may not thank you for that.



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« Reply #369 on: 05/08/2006 15:52:43 »
Karen - because you said you haven't seen your brother in 12 years.
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« Reply #370 on: 05/08/2006 16:45:45 »
quote:
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Karen - because you said you haven't seen your brother in 12 years.



Yes, I concur - I always think it sad when families fragment like that.



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« Reply #371 on: 05/08/2006 18:30:16 »
Hey Steven,

 Please don't be sadder! I have excellent memories of my brother. He may not be around, but he will always live inside of me. That is what is so extrordinary about LOVE!ALL KINDS OF LOVE! He has been been in not so good shape. He has a care provider, but does not keep in touch or allow us knowledge of his whereabouts, He does not have his presence of mind. As a young adult he and his cosin were experimenting with PCP, he got ahold of some bad stuff, It took him away and although he does not use it now, or the last time I seen him, he is pretty much gone, a shell of the wonderful man he was! He loved playing the Guitar and singing, he had 2 Beautiful daughters  one died of sudden infant death syndrome and thats what put him over the edge and he turned to a drug to forget her! Now he has forgotten all of us, but his pain is gone! He is very gentle, and is so sweet. When I found him last timehe was walking on the streetI stopped him to see if I was right. He remembered me anh hugged me, but asked how that very nice lady was that he used to live with, (my mom) I had to tell him she had died and we could not find him as she wished to tell him that she would always love her baby boy! He got sad for a moment and then smiled and said, she was very nice, a good women, she was my friend, you know that Karen she was a good friend! I went with him home that day as he wanted to play me some music, he introduced me to his caregiver who had no clue he had family locally! He told me that timmy J. was on medication for for a physcological disorder! I said good bye many hours later and when I went back to visit him the man had taken him and moved away. The phone number was no longer in service and he never called us to let us know where they went! I guess this year is 12 years ago. I have gret memories of him and will always love him. He was a fragile sensitive soul and could not handle what life had given him and he was lost in another world! A world that we will never really understand!!

George, when I forward, I thought about that, how do I remove the old names?

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« Reply #372 on: 05/08/2006 18:49:28 »


Karen - I'm so sorry, it's so sad when families are faced with such tragedies.



Love you lots

Helena   xxx


 

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« Reply #373 on: 05/08/2006 19:22:04 »
Originally posted by Karen W.[/i]
 I don't know what to think anymore! You trust someone with everything you have you give them everything you are and they just use you and hurt you! Why do people do that, Am I just naive, isn't anything precious anymore? Doesn't loving someone with everything you have count for anything? I'm sorry, I guess I am having a real bad night here!

Karen.
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Chocolate, where's that chocolate, people, I don't care which type  milk, plain (dark) filled or unfilled, pralines, anything, but not white.
Yes I'm upset, and when this this Greek temperament is fired up then I want chocolate and lots of it.

Love you lots

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« Reply #374 on: 05/08/2006 19:32:13 »
Me too Helena, Had a rough day with Hubby Yesterday, and then that terrible post!!And I did eat Chocolate and cashews and Drank applejuice!! That part was not so bad! I really wanted to move out! Geesh sometimes I cannot believe my Husband! Trying real hard to remember how much I loved him and why! Patience is a virtue right? I'm running out of patience, this train is definitely on the wrong track!!

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« Reply #375 on: 05/08/2006 19:35:06 »


I know the feeling Karen.


Love you lots.

Helena   xxx



 

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« Reply #376 on: 06/08/2006 01:54:05 »
Okay, before I respond about what I have read...I will read other sections and come back to you...hmmm, Karen, sorry I am here love...your shoulder to lean on or cry on...haven't had a chance to get in my emails yet...but will...but your story is sad about your brother and glad you have pleasant memories of him...

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« Reply #377 on: 06/08/2006 02:15:48 »
Going to eat chinese food, be back in a few!!

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« Reply #378 on: 06/08/2006 03:21:02 »
Are you back?  I am now...love...awwww, what a wonderful...?  I almost slipped here...Ooopss!!

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« Reply #379 on: 06/08/2006 03:47:54 »
Sorry to hear about that Karen. PCP is so destructive I'm glad we don't see much of it in the UK, well I don't see it anyway. I hope he is ok.

I am jealous that you are getting chinese food though :-(.

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« Reply #380 on: 06/08/2006 04:34:01 »
Me too...I am very jealous...I will have an order of moo goo gai pan...for my hamburger ick!

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« Reply #381 on: 06/08/2006 05:17:37 »
I want Kung Po Chicken and Egg Fried Rice :-(
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« Reply #382 on: 06/08/2006 05:19:43 »
Dinner was so good!! I did really well. I did not over eat!  YAAAY!!  I feel good.
 Steven, I would have shared if I could have! You would all be so welcome!! Maybe someday all of us friends can get together and visit!!!
 Loretta, You hungry! I meant to tellyou to put a splash of soy sauce on your Chicken avocado Stir fry after you have it over your bed of rice. It brings out the avocado and chicken flavor, It is so.......good! I have a sweet and sour pork recipe  that is marvelous also. Serve dover rice or chinese noodles, it is a preference thing. I am a rice girl, but love the noodles also!

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« Reply #383 on: 06/08/2006 05:26:20 »
MMMMMMMMM! egg fried rice. I hardly ever get that, but Oh how I love it!!!

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« Reply #384 on: 06/08/2006 05:46:34 »
mmmmm, Karen, it sounds so good, I can't wait to try it...love rice...I could eat it everyday...but then wearing it does not look good on my hips...lol  Steven, I love Egg Fried Rice...I had a greasy hamburger as I didn't have a lunch today...ick...with fries!  I did not do well today

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« Reply #385 on: 06/08/2006 06:58:29 »
Yep,  you have to watch out for the rice! But is sure is good!

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« Reply #386 on: 06/08/2006 07:22:25 »
mmmmm, mmmmm, good...recognize that lingo?

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« Reply #387 on: 06/08/2006 08:29:59 »
I have never ever tried avocado. What does it taste like?

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« Reply #388 on: 06/08/2006 08:41:51 »
oh, my Steven!  Guacamole...delicious darling!  Advocado slices on salad..mmmmm, very tasty...hard to describe the taste...it is not tangy, it is not salty, it is kind of bland, but it is good!!!

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« Reply #389 on: 06/08/2006 08:52:43 »
A bit like a Piece of heaven, soft and tender mild and oh so good! I love avocados! My Favorite breakfast is  a bagel, with Italin herbs, cream cheese, tomato's bacon and avocado slices!!!!! UMMMMMM! so good!!! Make a Bagel BLT with avacodo! Cream cheese on both pieces of Bagel!! I'm sure its fattening, Bagels are killer, but if you don't over do it should be ok! You must try one. Slice it with a paring knife all the way around the seed. then slightly twist it and pull it apart. Then set your knife blade onto the seed and rock it slightly appling pressure to seed, juet enought to inset blade, then carefully turn blade with seed attached to remove seed. Then make lenghtwise slices and peel individual peelings from back of avocado. If you don't use it, keep the seed in it and this helps keep it from turning brown.store in fridge with seed in it, you can also salt it to keep it from turning brown, lemon juice also. Enjoy!!

I had better go to bed. you all be good on here and I will see you ina couple hours!  Love you guys ......

Karen

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« Reply #390 on: 06/08/2006 08:54:35 »
Ok Karen,

I might buy an avocado today just to taste it.

Goodnight.

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« Reply #391 on: 06/08/2006 08:54:50 »


Morning peeps.

..........and a creamy texture.

Steven pls tell me you've had some sleep last night.


Love you lots.

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« Reply #392 on: 06/08/2006 09:09:41 »
Morning Helena, I am finishing up for the night, love to you all, Helena talk to you and Loretta and steven in a few hours!....

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« Reply #393 on: 06/08/2006 09:12:58 »


O.K. Karen speak later.

Sweet dreams.


Love you lots

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« Reply #394 on: 14/08/2006 18:43:40 »
Going back to the original question one of my own personal theories is that love is a type of addiction, and as such, people who have an 'addictive personality' (i.e. have a greater propensity for becoming addicted to alcohol, tobacco, or other drugs), are also more like to fall in love.

Any takers for this?



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« Reply #395 on: 15/08/2006 15:56:21 »
It certainly could have some bearing, although I know many people who have fallen in love and really don't have  addictive personalities. Although I believe we are all like that to an extent! Some more pronounced then others. I do believe that love is so natural. For most people it starts out with that close bond established by a primary caregiver. We all need that love. For some of it it needs to be intense and crazy, wild and romantic, for others it needs to be softer and more reserved and tame, but for whatever reason weather its self love or the love of a lover or friend, It is an entegral part of who we are, no matter how, who,or why we love, we just need love Thats all, just love!

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« Reply #396 on: 15/08/2006 19:09:03 »
I know I don't have an addictive personality.

- off 2 get some coffee

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« Reply #397 on: 15/08/2006 21:54:02 »
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Originally posted by Karen W.
although I know many people who have fallen in love and really don't have  addictive personalities.


By an 'addictive personality', I don't mean that they are necessarily addicted to something, but rather that if they are exposed to an addictive substance, they are more likely to become addicted to the substance than another person.



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Re: Love
« Reply #398 on: 15/08/2006 22:42:27 »
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Originally posted by another_someone

Going back to the original question one of my own personal theories is that love is a type of addiction, and as such, people who have an 'addictive personality' (i.e. have a greater propensity for becoming addicted to alcohol, tobacco, or other drugs), are also more like to fall in love.

Any takers for this?



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This is fascinating !...would you care to elaborate ?....Would you consider people who are vulnerable and gullible in the same group.

Personally I don't subscribe to it ...What I mean is,It's not your theory I don't subscribe to (I'm all ears) but that I am one of those people who have fallen in love very very easily on more than one occasion...but I consider myself in every other aspect someone with a low propensity to addiction.

tried smoking....found I could take it or leave it.....chose to leave it...

same with alcohol...not bothered !

Yes..shock horror have tried recreational drugs....no joy there (to try and help me sleep)

....perhaps I have just not found my addiction yet !....perhaps evertyone here is capable of becoming addicted to something !



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Re: Love
« Reply #399 on: 16/08/2006 00:41:33 »
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Originally posted by neilep
Would you consider people who are vulnerable and gullible in the same group.



Trying to work out what this means within the context of my hypothesis.

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Personally I don't subscribe to it ...What I mean is,It's not your theory I don't subscribe to (I'm all ears) but that I am one of those people who have fallen in love very very easily on more than one occasion...but I consider myself in every other aspect someone with a low propensity to addiction.

tried smoking....found I could take it or leave it.....chose to leave it...

same with alcohol...not bothered !

Yes..shock horror have tried recreational drugs....no joy there (to try and help me sleep)

....perhaps I have just not found my addiction yet !....perhaps evertyone here is capable of becoming addicted to something !



I think the current tendency is to believe that some people have a stronger propensity for getting addicted to anything, and that this trait is not substance specific (although there may be other variables that might make the application of that addiction more likely to be triggered by a particular substance).

That you say you have fallen in love very easily on more than one occasion leaves to to ask, possibly somewhat indelicately, did you also fall out of love as easily?  That you could fall in love easily is one thing, but could you give up that love as easily as you could give up tobacco?

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This is fascinating !...would you care to elaborate ?



OK, I'll go through the thought process that lead to this conclusion.

If one accepts the premise that there is such a thing as an addictive personality type, and that this is an inheritable trait (what I understand is that this is the current thinking on the matter), then why should this be so?

For an inheritable trait to survive, then it would imply that there are some situations in which that trait may be of benefit to the species.  Since, on the most obvious level, addictive personality types are at a disadvantage, so in what context might it be an advantage.

Clearly, it is possible to argue that even deleterious genetic traits will continue to survive within a species, but they will only survive at a very low level (we don't see a massive number of haemophiliacs being born, yet we do seem to see a large number of people with a propensity for addiction being born why so?).

Clearly, the human genome was not evolved to deal with concentrated opiates, or regular supplies of concentrated alcohol so it is clear that addiction to these substances is just an unfortunate modern manifestation of something that historically must have had some other purpose.
So the question is, what primitive (in the sense of being common throughout human history, from the earliest days) human behaviour might be similar to addiction, and yet may be beneficial to the species?

The answer that came to mind was love.  In its most obsessive form, love can show many of the manifestations of any addiction.  Ofcourse, love can come in both sexual and platonic forms, and I am still undecided the degree to which each of these fit the requirements.  Sexual love has the added benefit the sexual act releases endorphins, which can themselves lead to addiction (this is also a case that excessive exercise can cause the release of endorphins, and can also be addictive).



George