Why is the Earth's age in the Bible reported as just thousands of years old?

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Offline Rozz295

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How come in the bible it is supposed that the earth is only a few thousand years old, but dinosaur bones have been proven to be over millions of years old? also seven days isn't exactly a long time for the dinosaurs to evolutionize and then die out before Adam and Eve arrived.(genesis 1,55) <and God planted the bones around the earth because he thought it would be funny> bring it on people with facts from your bible...
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Most of the bible is allegorical fiction, designed to help the few control the many.  It's main purpose was political and it has little to do with facts of any kind.
...And its claws are as big as cups, and for some reason it's got a tremendous fear of stamps! And Mrs Doyle was telling me it's got magnets on its tail, so if you're made out of metal it can attach itself to you! And instead of a mouth it's got four arses!

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It has been suggested by some theologists that the 6 days in which God 'created' everything from the universe to the kitchen sink, were not 'days' at all. They suggest that there has been a misinterpretation and that it was 6 periods of indeterminate lengths.

Of course this still doesn't explain the lack of the bit in the Bible which should read:

 "And God created Dinosaurs to rule the Earth.
  And seeing that they were not quite what he had intended as Masters of His creation, He sent an event to slay them all.
  And God saw that His Earthly cock-up had been corrected.
  And God was pleased with His work and went for a cup of tea and a Dinosaur sandwich (since there was an awful lot of Dinosaur meat around).
  And it was lunch time of the third day/week/month/year/decade/century/millennium/epoch/era ..."

Perhaps these theologists should realise, that in accepting that there could be an error in the translation or understanding of the Bible on such an elementry level, they need to accept that the whole book is a catalogue of such misinterpretations, misunderstandings, misquotes, misrelayed and mis-just-about-everything-elses.

The Bible is, however, a Good Book, which does give a good blueprint for how Man should conduct himself. In my opinion it was a well intentioned guide, written over a long period by a lot of well intentioned authors for Man to follow, based largely on the God who was created in it and on some actual people and events.
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The Bible is, however, a Good Book, which does give a good blueprint for how Man should conduct himself. In my opinion it was a well intentioned guide, written over a long period by a lot of well intentioned authors for Man to follow, based largely on the God who was created in it and on some actual people and events.


all of them?

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The Bible is, however, a Good Book, which does give a good blueprint for how Man should conduct himself.

Except for the countless parts that are despicable and unethical by modern and perhaps even biblically contemporaneous standards...
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The Bible is, however, a Good Book, which does give a good blueprint for how Man should conduct himself.


Except for the countless parts that are despicable and unethical by modern and perhaps even biblically contemporaneous standards...

Erm, well OK, there be a lot o' nasty bits in it too. Maybe they were written by the Brian Garfield's of them thar days!

Now if'n you'll 'scuse me I have to nip out to smite a few folks!
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If the devil went back and planted thousands of bones beneath millions of tons of stone and earth to distract man from the way of God, couldn't he have done the same thing with a thousand pages of rules and regulations for a single tribe in the desert 5000 years ago?  Seems like that later would be an easier and more effective option.  Plus sneaky.  This devil character sounds sooo sneaky.  It'd be right up his alley.

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I reckon the Dinosaurs wrote the bible to mess with our heads !
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I reckon the Dinosaurs wrote the bible to mess with our heads !

It seems so obvious now that you've mentioned it.
...And its claws are as big as cups, and for some reason it's got a tremendous fear of stamps! And Mrs Doyle was telling me it's got magnets on its tail, so if you're made out of metal it can attach itself to you! And instead of a mouth it's got four arses!

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Normally I don't bite on such baited questions, but I'm in the mood:

Before you ask yourself why it took 6 days to create the earth, ask yourself why God did it twice.  Seriously...go read the first FEW chapters of Genesis, not just the first few verses.

Although as it stands itself, the Bible does not give a reason for this, but I tend to lean towards the popular theory that the first creation described is God planning it out...then when you get to the phrase "...so God created ..." you transition to the actual creation.  In the second description of the creation there is no time frame discussed.

...There...that's my 2 cents...which is obviously aimed at those that believe in the Bible...not intended to prove it to others.

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i honestly think that the whole bible was fiction written by some lord of some kind to get his very depressed servants of their asses and to work toward something other than him, also heres an odd coincidence god-good devil-evil, notice the similarities in the word come on that has to have been something made up quickly by the lord or one his scribes

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For this type of question, www.thenakedphilosophers.com might provide more expertise ;) .

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It never says in the Bible that the earth is a few thousand years old.

Blame Bishop Ussher. No one should have paid any attention to him in the first place. He was from Ireland.
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oh so we gotta bring the irish into this huh?

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I don't think we should pay any attention to Biblical chronology, they didn't have watches in those days, nor calendars , it would seem.

Adam lived 930 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:5]

Seth lived 912 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:8]

Enosh lived 905 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:11]

Kenan lived 910 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:14]

Mahalalel lived 895 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:17]

Jared lived 962 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:20]

Methuselah lived 969 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:27]

Lamech lived 777 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:31]

Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." [Genesis 6:3]


120 years??? Four score years and ten: Make up your mind.
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Four score years and ten

yep, make up yer mind, turtle boy:

one score = 20 (years, in this case)

Lincoln's usage 'four score and seven' - 87 years ago

The Gettysburg Address was given in 1863 - 1776 (Deceleration of Independence) + 87 years = 1863 (the year of the address)
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Most of the bible is allegorical fiction, designed to help the few control the many.  It's main purpose was political and it has little to do with facts of any kind

Agreed. But, i believe god exists, but that it is rude to place a name on "the entity being of god is" and that any one set of laws can be correct but should flex to known existant diversions,
HOWEVER.

The bible is a script written by a primitive people whom organised a script and laws for their community and should be read in context of human historical recorded events not paleontological scientific determined events of sciences chemical aberational statistical quantification breakdown.
This is not to say by any means they were right or wrong, simply that decorum or majority rational or consensus among the community of the time historically played a large part in mentioning dates for categorical purpose of writing the manuscripts.
Earths actual age means nothing to it, it is what it is and for its idiosynchratic purpose.

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The good folks at the Discovery Institute in Seattle will be more than happy to 'splain it all to you. They are the inventors of the "Science" of intelligent design. I better say no more. Many folks in these parts take the bible very literally, and they all have guns (strictly for hunting, of course!)
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I started to ask if you lived in Texas, too.

But then I noticed the Selkirk Mountains -

WATCH OUT, BASS !!! YOU'VE GOT A STRANGE NEIGHBOR! CARRY A GUN WHEN YOU ARE IN THE FIELD NEXT WEEK !!!
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Yikes! Is that a banjo I hear?
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Yikes! Is that a banjo I hear?

No that's just the Texan drawl...[:D]
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(In case you didn't get it, banjo was in ref. to the film "Deliverance")
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Furthermore, the Bible was dead right. The Sun does orbit the Earth.
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Yikes! Is that a banjo I hear?

Ain't no pigs in these har woods!
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(In case you didn't get it, banjo was in ref. to the film "Deliverance")

If yer a-hearing a banjo then it is from some western hillerbillie up where you live in Iderwhore!

Ain't ya got no learnin'? Deliverance was set in Georgia! To be exact, the Cahulawassee River in a remote part of Northwestern Georgia, part of the Appalachians, whar them thar inbreeded hiller-billies live.

But as'n Bass lives up where near where those new fangled hiller-billies live in Iderwhore then he had better'un take his gun the next time he goes off in'a them thar woods. He ain't no pig, as he said.

Now, there ain't no disrespecting meant. Even though the Selkirk Mountains mountains ARE in Iderwhore (and Wasintone,) them are on the fer side of Iderwhore from where Bass be at.
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(In case you didn't get it, banjo was in ref. to the film "Deliverance")

If yer a-hearing a banjo then it is from some western hillerbillie up where you live in Iderwhore!

Ain't ya got no learnin'? Deliverance was set in Georgia! To be exact, the Cahulawassee River in a remote part of Northwestern Georgia, part of the Appalachians, whar them thar inbreeded hiller-billies live.

But as'n Bass lives up where near where those new fangled hiller-billies live in Iderwhore then he had better'un take his gun the next time he goes off in'a them thar woods. He ain't no pig, as he said.

Now, there ain't no disrespecting meant. Even though the Selkirk Mountains mountains ARE in Iderwhore (and Wasintone,) them are on the fer side of Iderwhore from where Bass be at.

Does anyone have an English-to-Redneck dictionary??

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Well, that's as may be JimBob, but a lot o' themuns here has no problem with that new fangled dewar-decimal countin' and banjo pickin'. Just might been that some o'themuns from Appalacha high-tailed it over here on account of some run in with the Feds or sumpin.
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Bass must be running an hour ahead of me. Idaho is so big we need TWO time zones. Not even Texas can claim that! But I see Bass is operating on GMT or whatever they call it these days. Must be trying to fool us into thinking he's in Blighty or something.
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Well, that's as may be JimBob, but a lot o' themuns here has no problem with that new fangled dewar-decimal countin' and banjo pickin'. Just might been that some o'themuns from Appalacha high-tailed it over here on account of some run in with the Feds or sumpin.

dewar-decimal countin'? That's what they-un use in the book keeper places, ain't it. What-cha-ma-call-em ... ly-berries?  

'Bout them pepele over thar - gettin' away from the feds fer sure!!

Bass must be running an hour ahead of me. Idaho is so big we need TWO time zones. Not even Texas can claim that! But I see Bass is operating on GMT or whatever they call it these days. Must be trying to fool us into thinking he's in Blighty or something.

Bass just puttin' on airs.  He ain't got the sence Gow-ad gave a chicken, he is in Mountain time in Montaner.

Yep, that is "Gow-ad" with two sylalibles.
 
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(In case you didn't get it, banjo was in ref. to the film "Deliverance")

If yer a-hearing a banjo then it is from some western hillerbillie up where you live in Iderwhore!

Ain't ya got no learnin'? Deliverance was set in Georgia! To be exact, the Cahulawassee River in a remote part of Northwestern Georgia, part of the Appalachians, whar them thar inbreeded hiller-billies live.

But as'n Bass lives up where near where those new fangled hiller-billies live in Iderwhore then he had better'un take his gun the next time he goes off in'a them thar woods. He ain't no pig, as he said.

Now, there ain't no disrespecting meant. Even though the Selkirk Mountains mountains ARE in Iderwhore (and Wasintone,) them are on the fer side of Iderwhore from where Bass be at.

Does anyone have an English-to-Redneck dictionary??

<<<hides!!

The eyes just don't do it for me. Only bats - really old bats - see in the dark.

I suppose you wish me to use Cokney elocution? That would really confuse the issue. Even the English believe it to be a foreign language!
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Well JimBob le'me splain the difference here. I think you be just a mite confused there.

See, what they use in them ly-berries is the Dooweedecibel thing for countin' all them dang books. Lands sakes! I don't know how they do it.

Now, yer dewar-decimal countin' sets in when you has one too many of them high falutin imported Scandynaviant whiskeys ('stead o drinking the good stuff I makes up on the hill) and you thinks you got twelve fingers 'stead o' the eight the Good Lord gave us.
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Well JimBob le'me splain the difference here. I think you be just a mite confused there.

See, what they use in them ly-berries is the Dooweedecibel thing for countin' all them dang books. Lands sakes! I don't know how they do it.

Now, yer dewar-decimal countin' sets in when you has one too many of them high falutin imported Scandynaviant whiskeys ('stead o drinking the good stuff I makes up on the hill) and you thinks you got twelve fingers 'stead o' the eight the Good Lord gave us.

Golllll e. naver wood-u gessed'tit,  thak-e

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This is like watching late night TV.....only thing on is a crap western!!! [O8)]

There's injuns in them hills boys...
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Well JimBob le'me splain the difference here. I think you be just a mite confused there.

See, what they use in them ly-berries is the Dooweedecibel thing for countin' all them dang books. Lands sakes! I don't know how they do it.

Now, yer dewar-decimal countin' sets in when you has one too many of them high falutin imported Scandynaviant whiskeys ('stead o drinking the good stuff I makes up on the hill) and you thinks you got twelve fingers 'stead o' the eight the Good Lord gave us.

Golllll e. naver wood-u gessed'tit,  thak-e

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Thanks fer splainin - but ain't Dewars the stuff with the feller in a skirt on it? I dun't think it's Scandynaviant - it is from that thar place they have the pond with a real big lizzerd int-it, I do believe.

This is like watching late night TV.....only thing on is a crap western!!! [O8)]

There's injuns in them hills boys...

Dang ferener don't know the injins from us gud guys.

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(In case you didn't get it, banjo was in ref. to the film "Deliverance")

If yer a-hearing a banjo then it is from some western hillerbillie up where you live in Iderwhore!

Ain't ya got no learnin'? Deliverance was set in Georgia! To be exact, the Cahulawassee River in a remote part of Northwestern Georgia, part of the Appalachians, whar them thar inbreeded hiller-billies live.

But as'n Bass lives up where near where those new fangled hiller-billies live in Iderwhore then he had better'un take his gun the next time he goes off in'a them thar woods. He ain't no pig, as he said.

Now, there ain't no disrespecting meant. Even though the Selkirk Mountains mountains ARE in Iderwhore (and Wasintone,) them are on the fer side of Iderwhore from where Bass be at.

Don be a fergitten that Georgia be down home country for this redneck.  While the movie was set on the fictional "Cahulawassee River" in Georgia, anyone from northern Georgia knew the river that James Dickey wrote about was the Chattooga River.  In fact, I lived for several summers in Clayton, and even knew a few of the "mountain folks" in the film, including Billy R., the supposed banjo player (personnally, I don't think Billy could pick his nose, let alone a banjo).  While canoeing the Chattooga with friends in July 1971, we happened upon the film crew doing a sequence of rapids for the film.  Great fun- we got to meet the stars and help ferry the canoes back up the river for extra takes.

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Bass must be running an hour ahead of me. Idaho is so big we need TWO time zones. Not even Texas can claim that!

psssst... It's not that Idaho's so big, rather it's that the whole d*mned state is dyslexic
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JimBob, is you talking 'bout them Galapagen Islands? They sure got some big lizards there. Saw it in the TV jes lasweek. Pretty sure the guys there wear them grass skirts too.
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Well y'know Bass, it's a funny thing you should bring that up, 'bout dsylexia an all.

I stopped over at our pastor's place the other day, jes as he was loadin' up the gun rack on his pickup, and he told me he was headin' out to visit with this agnostic ol' boy with some problems.

See, turns out the poor old guy is dyslexic, and he's also an insomniac.

Poor old geezer stays awake all night wondering if there really is a dog.
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JimBob, is you talking 'bout them Galapagen Islands? They sure got some big lizards there. Saw it in the TV jes lasweek. Pretty sure the guys there wear them grass skirts too.

Naw  it's a place chock full ov redtoped sissies in plad skirts - somwher its cold and you'd neever go outside without your shootin' iron caus Dunstane Woods moves towards your castle. And that lizerd is in a lock, not a pond, now I 'member. OH - an yep they have three nekked witches there, two.


As fer your paster - hope he did't go an' shoot that there dog. Could get a little ruff, ruff fer him.
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I git it now! You means that place where ol' wotsisname come from. Wait, it's comin' to me ....Mel something....Mel Gibbon! Saw that movie on the TV las' week too.
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Yep - thaat ape
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I think the Earth is said to first of all be regenerated thousands of years ago, from Genesis 1:1. First of all it was there.

The persons like Adam, lived before the approximate 120 year age limit set by God after the flood.

The mountains, moon craters and light from stars are millions of years old.

It is Adam and his offspring that have only been around for 6000 years.
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Well, it must of had a VERY significant impact on the way our thoughts operated. Because if we so readily accept B/C and A/D ~ There must of been a big event in the past. Unfortunantely no one knows what.

Anyway, its good that there was a thought transformation in working towards something more structured. I think it was a big thanks to Christainity. Of course... despite the whole being controlled by the churchs things and burning of free-thought people. But, what would our history be like if Christainity never took of as it is? Its deep rooted and affected us alot ~ There may of possibly been a time measurement in set back way then! But we can't know for sure.

anyhow... you all have your hill billy fun :P
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Where would we be without Christianity???

Perhaps we would still be worshiping Zeus, Jupiter, Amun Ra, Odin.

The Abrahamic religions were not the first. 'God' is predated by Zeus and Amun Ra, and probably they were predated by others of whom we have no record.
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It's interesting to think about really.

I think its safe to say it was the first (recorded) attempt at unifying people at a mass proportion. I wonder what took place to really provoke something like that.

Though, I do not know if we would all be Pagan's. The Christains took care of that really, but if say the dark ages never occured, what change would that bring? What would we lose? Would it delay us?

(They fight against evolution, but ironicly I see it as that they provoked evolution of a different kind)
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Offline JimBob

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Back on topic please. This is not a forum on religion. It is a science forum.
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I know I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I still haven't seen a scientific answer to the question. would anyone like to engage the question without relying on ridiculous preconceptions and misinterpretations?

Maybe a scientific approach to the Bible would reveal it has fewer inaccuracies than you might assume.

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Maybe a scientific approach to the Bible would reveal it has fewer inaccuracies than you might assume.
I have a feeling I'm going to regret this...

Care to give us some examples of the inaccurate inaccuracies?
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I have a feeling I'm going to regret this...

Care to give us some examples of the inaccurate inaccuracies?

For crying out loud Bass! Don't you have some flies that need tying, or some rocks to play with? Sheesh!
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I think the reason behind is that the reckoning of God is different from what we have right now. one thousand years for us is only about one day for him. Dinosaurs may live millions of years ago as proven by fossils but bible doesn't speak it.

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Furthermore, the Bible was dead right. The Sun does orbit the Earth.

lol @ geezer...2 points )

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