Soil with High NITRO in IT

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Offline Naufal the B. S.

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Soil with High NITRO in IT
« on: 24/07/2009 08:31:07 »
Can you mention? the soil that has high nitro?
For my kno3 rocket!
« Last Edit: 04/08/2009 15:14:03 by BenV »

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #1 on: 24/07/2009 08:52:56 »
I honestly don't think it is a good idea to put soil into a rocket.
Whereas, potassium nitrate you can get from just about anywhere.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #2 on: 24/07/2009 09:07:06 »
Hey chemistry expert!
Dont be stingy knowledge. Joke ".

Where can i get the potassium nitrate?
I cannot get instant cold packs, ammonium nitrate. Very sad .(

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #3 on: 24/07/2009 09:10:40 »
I'm sure if you typed "potassium nitrate suppliers" into Google you'll get about 170,000 hits.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #4 on: 24/07/2009 09:12:19 »
How about the soil?
Hey man, i dont put it into the rocket directly! I use it for making blackpowder. And of course, i'll use the bp for my rocket

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #5 on: 24/07/2009 09:16:28 »
You're meaning, i must buy kno3.

I want to make it with the soil.

Can you explain to make some kno3?

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #6 on: 24/07/2009 09:22:49 »
I doubt you have the resources to extract potassium nitrate from soil. Why would you when you can buy it!

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #7 on: 24/07/2009 09:45:19 »
I dont have access to buy it. And, very hard,  to find kno3 in around of me.

A few days ago, i got tutorial for making kno3 from soil, but i dont understand what's the meaning.
Can you explain me?
The tutorial command me to mix the potassium carbonate from the charcoal and high nitro soil. Please help me, master!

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« Reply #8 on: 24/07/2009 09:59:18 »
Ah yes, that could work, although you probably won't get a high yeild at all, not very pure either. I still think you should buy it.
Rather like this one, except it uses ammonium nitrate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnoYiGltZU

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #9 on: 24/07/2009 11:34:47 »
Please... Explain me!!!

I don't understand with that video...

I'm not british and american, because of it, I cannot understand whole of that tutorial.

Please teach me with the easy tutorial.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #10 on: 24/07/2009 23:55:03 »
I don't have a tutorial.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #11 on: 24/07/2009 23:58:50 »
Can you explain me?
The tutorial command me to mix the potassium carbonate from the charcoal and high nitro soil. Please help me, master!

I think that means that you need to mix potassium carbonate from charcoal with soil that has a high nitrogen content.

You can get soil with a high nitrogen content by peeing in dirt. In fact, i think that's how they used to get KNO3  to make black powder a long time ago.
You can read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_nitrate#History_of_production

As others have suggested, though, you should just buy some potassium nitrate. It is cheap and plentiful. You can order it on the internet or, in some cases, you can buy it from places that sell meat - KNO3 is often used as a meat preservative.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #12 on: 25/07/2009 01:44:47 »
Meat?
Which is meat that have kno3!?

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #13 on: 25/07/2009 01:50:38 »
From places that sell meat, for example, the butcher!

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #14 on: 25/07/2009 02:28:46 »
Hey,  meat has lot of kind.
Which is meat that have high nitro?
Peeing it directly! Excrement...

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #15 on: 25/07/2009 02:36:52 »
Stores that sell meat have potassium nitrate.  The stores have potassium nitrate. They use the potassium nitrate to preserve the meat.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #16 on: 25/07/2009 02:59:16 »
Ah yes, i'm very stupid! Sorry... Troublesome.

Could you notify me the other way?
There isn't butcher that use kno3 in around me, traditional.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #17 on: 25/07/2009 03:29:55 »
What country do you live in? It is easy to buy KNO3 if you live in the United States, but i don't know about other countries.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #18 on: 25/07/2009 03:42:39 »
Surabaya, indonesia.
Please, i'm dreaming about self rocket.
Could you notify me about finding kno3

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #19 on: 25/07/2009 04:02:58 »
Hmm, i do not know where to get potassium nitrate in indonesia! Sorry.

Are there any stores there that sell "stump remover"? Stump remover contains potassium nitrate.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #20 on: 25/07/2009 07:59:24 »
what's it function?

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #21 on: 25/07/2009 14:41:11 »
It dissolves tree stumps.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #22 on: 26/07/2009 00:45:46 »
Back to the soil.
Besides peeing the soil, are there another way to get the soil with high nitro?
I think, it is a very simple steps.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #23 on: 26/07/2009 07:51:49 »
Peeing only works if you also have the bacteria.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #24 on: 27/07/2009 07:51:31 »
Bacteria?

EXPLAIN ME MASTER!! I DON'T UNDERSTAND

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #25 on: 27/07/2009 19:14:24 »
Nitrates are produced in soil by the actions of some sorts of bacteria on things like urine which contain a lot of nitrogen.
Many years ago this was used as the way to make potassium nitrate for gunpowder.
Of course you also need something to supply the potassium.
The ash left behind when you burn wood contains quite a lot of potassium carbonate- known as potash.
The reaction of the nitrate in the soil with potash gives potassium nitrate.
You can leach that out of the mixture of soil and ashes and dry it out. It's not very pure but you can clean it up by recystalisation.

I don't know of anyone who has actually done this- it doesn't seem like a very nice job.
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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #26 on: 28/07/2009 06:07:48 »
Please, chemist expert! Answer these three final question from me:
1. Are there any way to get high level nitro besides urine? Mention!
Urine is very very excrement
2. can i make bp without "not very pure" kno3?
3. Are there anything that can make bp without sulphur and kno3?
Kno3 = oxidizer
things that can be oxidizer for bp besides kno3. Please mention.
Help me.
Thanks a lot lot lot lot... For you

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #27 on: 28/07/2009 06:43:00 »
1. BUY IT!!! Or else, it will not work!
2. How 'not very pure'? Short answer, no.
3. Not sure, you might need to search the internet for that one.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #28 on: 28/07/2009 07:46:26 »
Buy bp? If i can buy "high nitro level things", what the name of that things?
Maybe, i can buy it?

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #29 on: 28/07/2009 07:49:08 »
Kno3 = oxidizer
h2o2 = oxidizer

if so... Can i make bp with h2o2?

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #30 on: 28/07/2009 07:58:02 »
No.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #31 on: 28/07/2009 08:22:05 »
So... The one way to make kno3 just by peeing it!?
Oh sad.

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #32 on: 28/07/2009 08:32:09 »
No. The best best way is to BUY IT!

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Re: Soil with High NITRO in IT
« Reply #33 on: 28/07/2009 08:40:00 »
Don't make me sad and nervous.
I cannot buy it in around me.

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« Reply #34 on: 28/07/2009 08:50:11 »
Your 'bp' is going to be about 70%-75% potassium nitrate, you need to have A LOT of it. I doubt that any other method is going to get you enough.

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« Reply #35 on: 28/07/2009 19:30:13 »
Don't make me sad and nervous.
I cannot buy it in around me.
If you can't buy it then I think you are better off not trying; there's more to like than gunpowder and you are likely to get into major trouble if you start blowing things up.

It makes me nervous when people who obviously don't have a clue about it are trying to make explosives.
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« Reply #36 on: 29/07/2009 09:01:42 »
If so...
Are there more to like than gunpowder!?

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« Reply #37 on: 31/07/2009 14:28:55 »
It makes me nervous when people who obviously don't have a clue about it are trying to make explosives.

Exactly. In a forum like this it is hard to tell what are the right hands and the wrong hands. I have been getting more and more nervous about Naufal, but, I have already been called paranoid here.
I got annoyed with looking
at my own signature