There is no big bang of the universe

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There is no big bang of the universe
« on: 22/08/2005 12:24:06 »
All organiams come fron inorganic life.Only when te earth,the Solar System and galaxiea are life bodies,organisms occur on the earth.
The interaction of varying-organization, forming-organization and control organization leads to the production of universe background temperature which is constant and not historical remains of big bang.
Galaxies are life bodies whose internal energy and motion velocity gradually develop.Hence,astronomers always find galaxies be in red shift that does not support the expansion of the universe.
Peneration of neutrino prove that the universe is limetless.

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« Reply #1 on: 23/08/2005 07:36:32 »
Wow! Galaxies are alive!? No wonder I had a feeling that I was inside an organism's gut. I've also read about the theory that our planet is a huge organism and not a lifeless piece of rock...Now, how do galaxies reproduce? sexually or asexually?

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« Reply #2 on: 24/08/2005 21:58:57 »
Can't be sexually, we've already ruled out the big bang :-) I suppose these organism eat hydrogen and other intergalactic debris.  Are they sentient, do you think?
 

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« Reply #3 on: 25/08/2005 03:45:10 »
I believe that they are sentient, but their thoughts are limited to themselves, the Universe, and God. They don't know that we are here.

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« Reply #4 on: 26/08/2005 00:12:18 »
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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #5 on: 27/08/2005 10:34:40 »
I agree there is no big bang, never was and never will be, however, there will be an incalculable number of smaller bangs when every planet reaches its ultimate climax as its mass exceeds that of which can remain stable, then the planet will become a new sun and visible from another evolving planet in some far flung area of the universe!

The Earth is growing, as is every single planet in space, smaller planets either evolve into larger planets, or are drawn to the larger planets, as can be seen with the moons surrounding Jupiter, or indeed the large objects that crashed into Jupiter a few years back.

Growth of planets is an infinitesimally slow process, and calculations of the Earth’s age are so far off the true age of this planet it makes a mockery of the very substance of science! For example, carbon dating rocks found on the surface or even below the surface in the deepest mines. To analyse the true age of the earth, one would have to attempt to evaluate the first atomic particle that was the seed for its beginning and this would prove somewhat difficult given that it is most likely part of the molten mass at the earths core.

I believe there have been many other civilisations on this planet, possibly even more advanced than ourselves, yet all have failed to manage their environment and have long perished. For example, did you know that a crystal goblet has been found embedded in quartz? And a steel cube has been found embedded in the same medium? Modern mans fossils have been found in coal dating back in excess of 26 million years.

As for black holes, they only exist in some thesis designed to earn a PHD and can neither be proved or disproved by the governing bodies of the PHD boards, or are part of some incredible fictionary, fantasy state of mind designed to sell a book or two.

I would love to see the sands of time rolled back in the Sahara, for there lies all of the answers to who has been here before and screwed around with environmentally unsound policies.

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« Reply #6 on: 28/08/2005 08:05:14 »
I remember someone telling me that the Sahara was down to excessive use of goats leading to soil erosion.  I don't think that's entirely true, although it may explain some of its spread in that last few thousand years.

Not sure about the rest of your argument, although it sounds interesting.  I wouldn't be surprised if black holes were a hoax though, in my experience PhDs have a broad sense of humour and almost no principles :-)
 

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« Reply #7 on: 30/08/2005 04:22:02 »
Wow this is a weird thread. Why do you assume the earth should remain like it was before? We measure contential drift, we measure varing energy levels from the sun, we see the growth of the human race in historical times. We know of ice ages that have come and gone. What is so strange about climate patterns changing? They have always been changing. Egypt's earliest records are of winning their independence from another race that lived where there is now desert.

We cannot stop the earth from spinning, and as of yet, we cannot stabalize the energy output of the sun. We just have to learn to live with change, or move someplace else...

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #8 on: 30/08/2005 14:42:02 »
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Growth of planets is an infinitesimally slow process, and calculations of the Earth’s age are so far off the true age of this planet it makes a mockery of the very substance of science! For example, carbon dating rocks found on the surface or even below the surface in the deepest mines. To analyse the true age of the earth, one would have to attempt to evaluate the first atomic particle that was the seed for its beginning and this would prove somewhat difficult given that it is most likely part of the molten mass at the earths core.

I believe there have been many other civilisations on this planet, possibly even more advanced than ourselves, yet all have failed to manage their environment and have long perished. For example, did you know that a crystal goblet has been found embedded in quartz? And a steel cube has been found embedded in the same medium? Modern mans fossils have been found in coal dating back in excess of 26 million years.


First off can we see some links? Plus quartz doesn't take very long to form. If I chucked something down a volcano and it didn't quite hit dead center; it wouldn't be all that crazy for it to get coated in quartz, since water heated underground by volcanic activity brings up dissolved minerals like quartz etc.

If they found a coke can inside a metamorphic rock like marble or something which was studded with fossils of early life then that would be something! [:D]

What about fossil records are you going to ignore them? ALL life would have to have been extinguished and the whole crust of the planet to have been replaced for what you believe to be true. Then life would have to have independently evolved several times over... It took a great deal of time to get multi celled organisms. If we can't be certain of the age of the planet, we can be of the Sun! Indirectly we know the rough age of Earth. Since when did planets grow to the size of stars and explode????

The Earth didn't start from an "atomic" particle. The Sun isn't a first generation star, it formed from a planetary nebula of a bigger less stable star that came before. So our planet formed from large clumps of stuff that was left behind from the previous system. It isn't likely that it was atomised!

Also "infinitesimally slow" wouldn't that mean very fast?

Black holes obviously can't be directly observed. I believe they have been observed indirectly looking at how they effect other objects, such as through gravitational lensing, accretion discs, jets or plumes of matter/radiation, unusual orbits of other stars. A shadow is "real" but how would you prove/find it?! by looking at what's around the shadow!

http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/po/050111.shtml

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« Reply #9 on: 30/08/2005 21:06:22 »
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Originally posted by David Sparkman

Egypt's earliest records are of winning their independence from another race that lived where there is now desert.

We cannot stop the earth from spinning, and as of yet, we cannot stabalize the energy output of the sun. We just have to learn to live with change, or move someplace else...



Some important factors are beyond our control but we do have an impact on our environment. There have been well established instances of poor agricultural practices permanently reducing the fertility of an environment(1930's "Dust Bowl" in the US, prehistoric Dartmoor in the UK for example).  

On a global scale there is ozone depeletion and, more contraversially, the theory that the climate of the whole planet may be changing irreversibly due to man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

I don't think I can get my head round planets growing from atomic nucleation points into stars but I don't think self extinction through poor ecological practice is all that far fetched!
 

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« Reply #10 on: 31/08/2005 01:46:45 »
How about the theory that the climate is changing on it's own and nothing man can do can change it. Why do folks blame everything on mankind when we know one volcano puts more sulfur in the air than fossil fuels can ever hope to match?

You are buying into the university professors that want research funding, and use scare tactics to get it. Yes the glaciers are getting smaller, but they have been small before. We are entering a warm spell, but where is the detailed study of how much is man, how much is the sun, and how much is everything else? The good old earth has lots of checks and balances built in.

Burn more fossil fuels and the higher CO2 produces more plant life. Melting the polar icecaps will dump more cold water into the oceans and reduce the hurricanes (not happening). We simply do not have enough data or understaning of the earth systems to be going off half cocked.

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« Reply #11 on: 31/08/2005 21:56:32 »
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Originally posted by David Sparkman

How about the theory that the climate is changing on it's own and nothing man can do can change it.


Yes, I am aware of that theory and can't refute it!  I think you would agree that what we do has some affect on the atmosphere (you mention the potential benefits of the CO2 concentration increase yourself) but, as you say, nobody can prove that it is affecting the climate.  

However it seems probable to me that there is some correlation between observed changes in climate and measured changes in the composition of the atmosphere.  This is a fairly widely held view and the basis for attempts to persuade governments and people to reduce their contribution to this change before it becomes irreversible.

You might argue that introducing such expensive changes without categorical proof is crazy.  But how sure do you have to be to gamble a whole planet, specially when you've only got one! [:)]
 

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« Reply #12 on: 04/09/2005 04:00:04 »
Mankind's activity has also reduced fires that annually swept the grasslands, and frequently cleared the forests of dead brush.

You would bankrupt society to stop what has happened through out the past history of the earth: the changing temperature. I think society has other things they want to waste their money on, such as Aids and it's ilk.

As far as "lets not take risks, we only have one planet" remember to follow the money. Who is getting rich promoting reduced life styles? The oil cartel is having great fun in their effort to corner all the money in the industral world. When energy saving devices actually save money, they are adopted.

You have a gaggle of professors quacking about global warming but they are avoiding answering the real questions about the earth's history, and the natural variation of temperature, and elasticity of the overall system. It doesn't take much to see a system where the outcome is rigged to generate even more research grants. Those guys won't be happy until we can trigger another ice age, which, by the way, is due anytime in the next few thousand years.

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« Reply #13 on: 05/09/2005 12:27:30 »
Of course there is another argument for switching to non-fossil fuels, which is that as easily accessible reserves are steadily depleted the price of oil will creep up and up, and if we aren't in some degree prepared for the switch away from oil we're going to "bankrupt society" anyway.
If there's a concern that we *might* be going to trash the world (worse than we already have) by releasing all the CO2 on the way there, it seems daft to me not to attempt to make the switch now.

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« Reply #14 on: 05/09/2005 16:16:30 »
I am all for change when it works. Would you like nucelar breeder plants? We could make a lot of them easily enough. They use pultonium for a fuew source which can be made self renewing. they are only a thousand times more dangerous than a uranium fuel plant during a meltdown, and mildly dangerouse when given to some nutcake like Iran or North Korea who can quickly convert the fuel to bombs.

Shall we go to noisy windmills that Senator Kennedy loves to see in someone else's back yard but not in his own? I am sure they can be made safe so that large birds don't fly into them.

Shall we go for solar power so that people in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California can have electricty instead of their silly excuse for a lawn?

The fusion bottle still doesn't work after 20+ years research, and laser fusion doesn't either. We could try solar panels up in space orbit and microwave the stuff down. That idea actually looks better to me the most of the rest of the SiFi ideas, tough it would cost a fortune to start up.

We only have 300 years of coal energy, and maybe 30 to 50 years of oil energy. Natural gas is an unknown, but probabily more than oil if we get better at finding it.

Having the price go up moderatly will fund more and more research. The Saudis and Iranians, aside from funding terrorists, invest their money in the western stock exchanges and real-estate markets, so the money comes back to us in a sense.

It is not nice to see our standard of living continuing to go down to pay for such things, but we can't always be fat and happy. Rome didn't last forever either.

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« Reply #15 on: 05/09/2005 20:34:37 »
I can see I haven't convinced you that the world is about to end![:)]

Still, I think we might be able to agree on Rosy's point, that it makes sense to increase the diversity of our energy sources so that if one fails (or starts causing unforeseen problems) we aren't totally screwed.

Personally I'm still pinning my hopes on fusion but I liked your idea of solar power from space, indirect fusion as it were [:)]  

If neither of those pans out in the necessary timescale and it turns out that that there is a problem with greenhouse gases (just hypothetically, don't toast me!) then we could look at cleaning up fossil fuel emissions (eg burying CO2) or perhaps even back to nuclear fission, for all its faults.  
 

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« Reply #16 on: 06/09/2005 16:36:35 »
The plants are very good at burying CO2. We humans can survive down to 10% oxygen while canaries die at 12%. Was the earth once much lower in Oxygen (i.e. higher in CO2)? Did that lead to the end of the ice age as more trees grew? There is a balance out there that controls the swing of temperature. Rather than say the sky is falling because things change, let's understand this fantastic planet.

I understand the dinosaurs also couldn't stop the temperature swings, even though they had a program of eating all the plant eaters that were producing all the methane gasses by farting. I try to help too by eating cow. If you want to help keep the C02 down, plant a tree.

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« Reply #17 on: 06/09/2005 21:35:27 »
Yes plants are pretty good at burying CO2, they've been at it for hundreds of millions of years.  Trouble is humans have spent the last two hundred years digging it all up again!

That's a joke rather than a serious argument, btw, I've given up trying to convert you on the basis of existing evidence and intend to wait until Chicago becomes a seaside winter sun resort. [:D]

However I pour scorn on your assumption that, if the worst comes to the worst, at least we will see those bloody canaries off by pointing out that atmospheric oxygen concentration hasn't fallen below 12% for 600 million years or more!
From http://www.palaeos.com

 

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« Reply #18 on: 08/09/2005 03:52:10 »
That is a very interesting website, I have bookmarked it and will read though it as I can. The graphic is also very interesting. Do average temperatures or estimates exist for these periods? I realise that other external things may have changed that would void direct relationships between gas levels and temperature, but it would be a place to start.

Don't get too upset with Canarys. Miners used to use them as a warning system for dead areas of mines. If the bird died, you had better get out. My point was that humans seem to be designed to survive in lesser oxygen levels. The graphic shows a good deal of variation, which does not seem attribable to humans.

I realise that a lot of our chemicals including Carbon have been buried in the past ages which make our planet more compatable with human life. For example, if we extract all the sulfur and we would be in a terriable fix. Venus has way too much sulfer in its atmosphere in the form of Sulferic acid. The concept of planet engineering is kind of SiFi but is really what we are heading to.

The present age gives certain countries in the world very good agriculture and devistates others. Were the world slightly warmer, Russia would have better and more reliable crops. Were the world cooler, Iraq and Iran might return to being the food centers they were 4-5 thousand years ago.

There was an artical on Drudge today that suggested that the warmer climates were drasticly reducing the amount of Carbon in the soils (organic materials?). The numbers seemed rather large, but we know that organic material is consumed by organisms that benefit by warmer weather. Here in the states they blame it on earth worms consuming the mulch in forests. The earth worms were introduced to new areas by fishermen.

I would think from the graphic, the earth is in danger of loosing its historical Carbon Dioxide. It has rarely been this low.



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« Reply #19 on: 09/09/2005 13:27:53 »
Human  will get into cosmic age  in the 21st century.

Three problems in cosmic age:time problem,energy source and velocity problem will be solved.Time problem will be solved by human body relativity.Energy source will be solved by superconducting theory of human body.Velocity will be solved by thinking control human body science.Quasar is cosmic model of light velocity spacecraft.
 

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« Reply #20 on: 09/09/2005 14:55:16 »
Lets see if you agree with my interpertation of the O2/CO2 chart. About 300 million years ago, we had a spike in O2 with a strong dip in CO2. That would correspond with a bloom of alge in the oceans that many feel was the source of a lot of our carbon deposits (coal and oil). There was not much animal life at the time, so oxygen levels spiked.

About 200 million years ago, the oxygen levels started going back down as animal life became abundent. CO2 levels started climbing as some carbon sources were released back into the atomosphere. Hmmm how did that occur as you would think that the carbon sources would have been well buried.

Now we are reaching an all time low of the combination of Carbon Dioxide and Oxygen because so much carbon has been buried. In another million years, I am sure what ever species controls this planet, they will be despertly trying to liberate more carbon to restore plant life to the planet and keep the oxygen levels high enough to support canaries (lol).

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« Reply #21 on: 10/09/2005 08:04:45 »
Agreed, the paleos diagram does show that CO2 concentrations are about as low as they have been for a very long time - I don't know much about the quality of the data but the site looks respectable (and, as you say, full of interesting content [:)]

However the scale is in hundreds of millions of years!  Humans have only been around for the last millimetre or so of that plot and I think it is unlikely that we could survive under conditions much different from the current ones.

Interesting idea of yours that in a million years the dominant species (giant canaries) may be fighting a CO2 deficiency!  "I know!" they'll cheep, "There must be billions of tons of fossil fuel down there, let's dig it up and burn it!" [:D]
 

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« Reply #22 on: 10/09/2005 14:51:32 »
What does the Giant canary say ?
read it backwards so as not to give it immediately away. yttik yttik ereH



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« Reply #24 on: 11/09/2005 21:37:30 »
Yes, interesting, but not convincing.  In many ways these sites remind me of the UFO sites a friend tried to interest me in a few years ago.  

There too claims were made supported by physical evidence that was curiously missing or broken.  They also explained the lack of peer review and independent confirmation on a global conspiracy to suppress the evidence.  All these creation sites need is a secret base where Darwinian scientists hide inconvenient evidence and they would be indistiguishable.

I enjoy a good argument with a creationist but I wouldn't if they resorted to this kind of thing.

 

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« Reply #25 on: 12/09/2005 08:37:17 »
Simmer, not a creationist here, just an interest in science and an open mind. I have no doubts about the authenticity of many of the strange objects found in places and times where they should not be according to present thinking. But do not intend to dismiss them on the grounds of lack of peer review as this is a somwhat rather more shallow view than the depth at which some of these objects have been recovered.

In fact, I beleive that there should be many more objects awaiting discovery which will prove that this planet is far older than anyone has previously engaged in thought.

I do agree with you about some of the interpretations on these sites, but no more than the interpretations of events argued by more "peer reviewed sites"

Darwin is extinct IMO, his arguments on natural selection do not carry any more weight than any other arguments and lack support from obvious anomalies. In his time darwin will be viewed as the best there was in his day, no more and no less.

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« Reply #26 on: 12/09/2005 21:09:51 »
Yes, of course you are right - opening your mind is the only way to let any new thoughts in, good or bad.  

But you have to be selective, there just isn't time to listen to everything everyone says, particularly when they say the same thing over and over again. When you see what looks like a familiar artifice in support of a familiar argument, surley you too must have felt the temptation to switch off, or at least change channels! [:)]

I agree there are problems the conventional interpretation of Darwin's theory and I would much rather talk about that than about Bob's friend's uncle who had dinosaur bone with a human tooth in it.
 

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« Reply #27 on: 13/09/2005 09:02:56 »
I only switch off when regurgetation of same old same old comes around. These artifacts are anything but that and deserve some thorough investigation, even if they do appear to kick sand in the fase of curent literature.

I also beleive there is some method involved in stimulating the brain to replay past events, possibly from ansestaral interactions somehow carried from the past into our present, posibly by the same route that a bird knows it can fly and takes a leap of faith from the nest into the air, or how a baby or a young animal knows it can walk. Several events have happened in my life to which I have no explanation.

2 weeks ago I saw what appeared to be a monk in broad daylight with its back to me in a wooded area following a ten mile walk with my wife and several friends. It happened very fast and vanished in seconds in a dimly lit wooded area at Stover Park, wearing a rusty brown hooded cassock. I was stunned, and still trying to fathom out what I did se or how I imagined seeing it, I was on autopilot walking quickly towards my car,thinking only of the shortest route to it.

Another time, a friend of mine and I were on a fishing contest, but not fishing in the contest, at Neen Sollars. I said to him I know a great spot for Chub, told him about this tree trunk laying in the water over the hill and how the chub were swarming at the base of this trunk, and sure enough it was exactly as I described. About 2 hours into a great days fishing, I realised that I had never fished that area in my life before so how did I know?

The next one was even more vivid. I saw a young girl in a mirror placed in front of the fire by myself having first emptied the room. The girl was dressed in yellow bending over a very old couch. I saw walking past the entrance to the room. It registered only briefly and I paid little attention to it being busy helping with a house removal. I returned to have another look and the room was empty as it should have been? The cottage was around 600 years old and the lady who was moving was too scared to live in it, because she said she had seen a mouse and slept on a friends couch for over 6 months. All mornin she was behaving oddly hurrying out of each room first, and spending most of the time in the new extension on the rear of the property.

When we had fnally emptied the building and the new people arrived the question of ghosts was brought up by the new owner. I said funny you should say that but, and was prompty given an elbow in the ribs and a growling no from the lady who was moving out. I was then asked to continue because the new lady owners said she brought it because it looked haunted and was very excited. I told the full story and you should have seen the look of relief on the previous owners face.

Conclusion: Somehow, the building or place is able to either trigger off a distant memory, possibly even from watching a tv programme or can somehow replay past events. Again this happened when I was on auto-pilot working very hard and thinking only about the job in hand.

But fascinating nevertheless

By the way, not religious either!

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #28 on: 13/09/2005 12:59:56 »
Four seasons' evolution of the Solar System
Like other celestial bodies,the Solar System originates from primeval nebula that contains all inorganic matters and simple organic matters precisely constructing the Solar System and the erath life.
1 Automatic organization of the Solar System's primeval nebula
Neutrinoes automatically organize all matters and quark confinement makes nebula disk form.Energy matters:hydrogen,helium and so on focus in the center of the Solar System and primeval sun forms.Light and gaseous matters rise and form primeval state-varying organization of the Solar System.Heavy and solid matters fall to bo near to the sun and form privemal state-forming organization of the Solar System.Mixture is between State-varying and state-forming organization and is privemal control organization.
2 Spring of the Solar System
Early spring,babies of all celestial bodies form and grow by soaking up nebula matters.Three organization of it are mixed and there are no dividing lines among them.The Solar System is dark without sunlight.Late spring,nuclear fusion of the sun happens and the temperature of the earth's surface gradually rises.But three organizations are still mixed.
3 Summer of the Solar System
All celestial bodies of  it continue to absorb nebula matters and grow.Early summer,state-varying and state-forming organizations divide and control organization distribute  among state-varying and state-forming organizations.Late summer,three organizations preliminary divide and independent control organization appears.
4 Autumn of the Solar System
All nebula matters completely convert into heavenly bodies of the Solar System  by the ending of summer and its autumn begins.The structure of all celestial bodies and the Solar System bocomes more and more complicated.Three organizations becomes fully divided.
5 Winter of the Solar System
The most complicated construction of the Solar System having formed,its autumn ends and  winter begins.All celestial bodies and the Solar System shrink and the volumn of the Solar System gets smaller and smaller.Finally,the Solar System erupts and becomes new nebula.The winter of the Solar System comes to the end and new spring starts.
Other celestial bodies in the universe evolve in the same way as the Solar System.

The earth synchronously evolves with the Solar System
 

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #29 on: 13/09/2005 21:13:52 »
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I only switch off when regurgetation of same old same old comes around. These artifacts are anything but that and deserve some thorough investigation, even if they do appear to kick sand in the fase of curent literature.
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"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"




The fossils and artefacts may be new but somehow they seem amazingly familiar.

Here are things that should have every paleontologist on the planet selling his soul just to have a look at, every major newspaper parachuting reporters into the owner's back garden and the US government, with its distinctly fundamentalist leanings, minting congressional medals of honour by the barrel - and what do we get?  The only reference to these items on a handful of sites edited by, guess what, creationists.

I see two possible explanations - that the scientists in the field are indeed part of a global conspiracy, along with the press and relevant authorities, or that these things don't exist.  Keep it simple, as you say.  

As for your apparitions and deja-vu experience, obviously I can't really comment, not having been there.  I think we've all seen and felt things we can't properly explain and usually find a way to rationalise, rightly or wrongly.  

 

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #30 on: 14/09/2005 13:19:06 »
Origion of  organisms(1)

The earth is control organs of state-forming organization in the Solar System and is also life body:bi-four seasons' whole including state-varying organization:atmosphere,state-forming organization:solid sphere and control organization:hydrosphere.(from Unity of physics and biology)
1 The earth synchronously evolves with the Solar System
Primeval nebula of the earth form.Heavy nebula matters:solid matters sink and construct the solid sphere of the earth.Light nebula matters:gaseous matters rise and construct atmosphere of the earth.Liquid matters such as water are between solid sphere and atmosphere and hydrosphere forms.Life construction of the earth is born.Three organizations of the earth evolve synchronously with the Solar System.
2 Production of the earth's matters
Primeval matters of the earth originate from its privemal nebula.Secondary matters are produced by physical and chemical reaction of the earth itself,interaction of the earth and other celestial bodies in the Solar System and include that transported to the earth beyond the earth and the Solar System.
Various kinds of organic matters:fatty acids,hydrocarbon,amino-acid,saccharide,purine,pyrimidine,nucleotide and monomers constructing organism macromolecules are compound by utilizing primeval matters of the earth:H2,N2,CO,CO2,NH3,H2S,HCN,HCNO and so on under the action of electromagnetic radiation,discharging,cosmic ray,radiate energy,heat,lighting and magnetie activity.
 

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #31 on: 15/09/2005 14:07:19 »
Origin of the organisms(1)

3 Force field of the earth :generating templates of organiam macromolecules
There are five kinds of force on the earth:bond force,strong interaction,quark confinement,weak interaction and electromagnetic interaction.Bond force is cubic force and force field.Strong interaction is plane force and force field.Quark confinement is linear force and force field.Weak interaction is screw force and force field.Electromagnetic interaction is mixed force and force field.
There are five kinds of organism macromulecules:cubic molucules-protein,plane or ring molecules-saccharide,linear molecules-lipid,screw molecules-DNA and RNA and mixed molecules:lipoprotein,glycoprotein,glycolipid and so on whose states are in agreement with five kinds of force and force field of the earth.
Obviously,five kinds fo force and force field of the earth are generating templates of organism macromolecules.Being induced  by the force and force field of the earth,various kinds of organic micromolecules automatically organize to form various kinds of macromolecules such as protein,saccharide,lipid,DNA,RNA,lipoprotein,glycoprotein,glycolipid and so on.
 

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Re: There is no big bang of the universe
« Reply #32 on: 05/10/2005 14:08:52 »
The universe is life.All matters in the universe are present.The universe consists of different matters having different functions.All matters precisely coumpound life universe.There is no the origin of the universe and life.The life of the universe contains its birth and death and is the circulation of birth and death.
Death is deep sleeping of life.