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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1800 on: 24/03/2016 18:19:56 »
Ethics, something we thought up. A description of why we no longer throw cats in the fireplace to get a good laugh. In the end, a way of living, as a individual, and as a society. F* that up, and you regress.
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« Reply #1801 on: 24/03/2016 18:33:11 »
There is no trick to being yourself. It's when you try to be something you're not that you fail. Being yourself make people see you, that's not wrong in my book, to be seen.
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« Reply #1802 on: 24/03/2016 18:36:36 »
And you don't need to be perfect for it.
F* perfect.
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« Reply #1803 on: 24/03/2016 18:45:09 »
Ever wondered why Empires fall? It's simple, they all want to be in control. For a real 'empire' the question of ideals becomes a second hand question. The first one will be about controlling. And they all fall. there is no empire that hasn't. Ideals on the other tentacle has a way of staying.
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« Reply #1804 on: 24/03/2016 18:46:58 »
Myself I prefer ideals, before empires.
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« Reply #1805 on: 24/03/2016 19:06:37 »
Yeah, in some ways I'm boring. But it's my life:) my hopes and my expectations. And I'm not selling any of it, don't want to.
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« Reply #1806 on: 24/03/2016 19:13:38 »
With a risk of sounding mystical. it's only when you accept that you to will die that you can live. Because that is what it takes, to fully live.
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« Reply #1807 on: 26/03/2016 10:32:47 »
I better point out that this is not a 'self improvement' manual :)

As such it fails horribly. It's about living, and dying, keeping your self esteem as good as you can. It's about you, doing the best you can, where you are, never mind what happens, and in the end, you will be the sole judge of it. It won't promise you happiness, if you want that, try greed.
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« Reply #1808 on: 26/03/2016 10:36:41 »
Of course. it builds on a presumption of good and bad. And it's not society's values I refer to there, it's about who you think you are, and who you want to be.
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« Reply #1809 on: 26/03/2016 10:39:41 »
Just remember one thing, the next time you read a 'guru'. He's not immortal, is he? And why is it mostly men believing themselves to be able to steer your thoughts? F* it, be a human being.
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« Reply #1810 on: 26/03/2016 10:55:22 »
Think 'Five' wrote that universe is a 'null game' somewhere. In a way it's correct, we come from 'nothing', we use 'energy' to exist, and as we disappear 'nothing' will still be as great as it was when we was here. So will the 'information' about this universe, according to the main stream beliefs. I only differ in what I think we can build from it, to me it can be ugly, or beautiful. Think of it as a impossibility of choices, expressed through time. Use your free will.
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« Reply #1811 on: 26/03/2016 10:56:30 »
Don't let others use it for you.
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« Reply #1812 on: 26/03/2016 11:05:34 »
You could simplify it to the universe being a description of transformations, of a constant equilibrium of 'energy'. Those transformations builds not only on 'mass', unless you by that possibly means it all? Including 'thoughts'. You don't need to be mystical to accept that you think, do you? The coin of exchange for it we call 'energy', time, and entropy. And as five described, in some way it also becomes a null game. But you and me, we build an idea, a dream of what it could be, if we're prepared to try. You don't have to save the world, just take care of yourself.
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« Reply #1813 on: 26/03/2016 11:13:55 »
To simplify, there are two obvious ways, either you control others, or your self. The one where you go for controlling others can also be seen as a way of greed, and a way of letting others tell you what you are.The other isn't as rewarding, but it will matter.
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« Reply #1814 on: 26/03/2016 11:30:27 »
And no, controlling oneself is actually admitting that everyone has a same birth right to it. It's not a logic building up to 'by controlling myself I now will control others better'. That one, although some reason that way, is not thought through in my book. It's the other way around :) You live, and let live.
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« Reply #1815 on: 26/03/2016 11:31:17 »
In the end, it's about trust.
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« Reply #1816 on: 29/03/2016 19:59:40 »
Ahh :) Single malt. If anything is a gift from the gods, then single malt is it. Never the less, we all have a nagging feeling that things isn't working out the way we would like :) No matter single malt. And yes, it's true. But it's not about you, neither about me, it's ideals, ideas, beliefs we cherish. The one about getting one better upon your neighbor, the one about being perfect when you look at yourself in the mirror. Never the one about being whom you are.
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« Reply #1817 on: 29/03/2016 20:00:36 »
Why not be the one you are?

Will the world end?
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« Reply #1818 on: 29/03/2016 20:04:26 »
I don't expect us to change a f**ng thing by commissions, or committees We will change life if we try to be true to ourselves though. Rings on the water, that's what we will become :) Stop being cynical, try to be true to yourself instead, and the ones you love.
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« Reply #1819 on: 29/03/2016 20:06:46 »
It's a never ending struggle, and I won't promise you a happy ending. It's life, but it's worth fighting for. It's you you're fighting for, you and the dreams of what it could be, not what you see but what it could become. And you need to start with yourself.
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« Reply #1820 on: 29/03/2016 20:07:40 »
I think you can do it.
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« Reply #1821 on: 29/03/2016 20:10:39 »
Instead of binding yourself to some others goals or ideals, be true to yourself, use that mind of yours, compassion and empathy. And also, no need to be perfect. F* that.
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« Reply #1822 on: 29/03/2016 20:12:55 »
You want to dance?
Dance.

You want solitude?
Do it.

You want time to think?
Take it.

You want love?
Tell us.
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« Reply #1823 on: 29/03/2016 20:13:57 »
Life is simple, it's just us that complicate it.
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« Reply #1824 on: 29/03/2016 20:17:36 »
Rings on the water.
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« Reply #1825 on: 29/03/2016 20:25:53 »
In the end there is only one life per person and most of us are satisfied with that. Those that crave control though will never be satisfied, because they always will feel that they need something more, something 'better' in terms of controlling, Immortality becomes a must :) To me that's just Bs, as is manipulating. I don't accept it, and I don't see why you should either? Grass can penetrate concrete.
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« Reply #1826 on: 29/03/2016 20:34:58 »
One promise, being yourself won't destroy the earth, as a matter of thought, it just might save it.
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« Reply #1827 on: 29/03/2016 20:40:15 »
Wake up.
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« Reply #1828 on: 29/03/2016 20:48:27 »
I wrote " Think 'Five' wrote that universe is a 'null game' somewhere. In a way it's correct, we come from 'nothing', we use 'energy' to exist, and as we disappear 'nothing' will still be as great as it was when we was here. So will the 'information' about this universe, according to the main stream beliefs. "

Now, that is interesting :)

Do we build new information through time, or is the information also a 'null game'?
I think we build it,  and if we now by 'chance' survive trying this, I believe it will be beautiful. It's 'new', not in the way of not existing in some 'static universe' but through the free will we laid down creating it.
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« Reply #1829 on: 29/03/2016 20:53:40 »
Then again, I differ between good and bad, and anyone of you that seen a rape hopefully know the difference? If you don't, yeah, its a 'null game' in all terms of it. And you and me becomes without purpose, life, ethics, compassion, empathy. Simplified, we're tools, or if you like a 'machine'. And without a observer, also meaningless. Do you think you are? And your kids too? And spouse?


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« Reply #1830 on: 29/03/2016 21:11:18 »
Life crave, why does it bother if we're just a 'machine'. No need for it, it's then all predestinated anyway, isn't it? Nope, we're more than that, and if we just grow up, we will make dreams come true. And I repeat, it starts with you looking at yourself, instead of others. Doing that is building those rings on the water, that will make it change.
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« Reply #1831 on: 31/03/2016 16:54:41 »
You better beware, I'm a subversive :)

Most of what you think is important is Bs. The shoes you wear. The watch that tells other people 'who you are'. Bs, that it works doesn't make it true. Most of the things you grew up with are just the same, bs. In a social context it becomes all important possibly, but your reality is this. You live and then you die.
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« Reply #1832 on: 31/03/2016 16:57:13 »
Why don't you slow down? Why do you think that it's all important to reach B from A in as short time as possible? Social pressures? F* that, slow down. And I don't mean you need to get yourself a bicycle and become a vegetarian. Look at them, they're rushing through life, the same as you.
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« Reply #1833 on: 31/03/2016 16:59:33 »
Slowing down, one kid per person. It saves energy, and will allow you to think. What the f* made Einstein think that a patent office was the best environment? All those ideas, or the possibility to think?
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« Reply #1834 on: 31/03/2016 17:03:28 »
Do we really need a new and faster commercial jet? What about a next generation Zeppelin? Allowing you to sit down, have a smoke, walk around, getting aquatinted with new adventures (eh, girls:), new people politically speaking? It won't take you from A to B in as short time, but it will save energy, and it indeed will be a adventure. You want to be 'super fast'? Use the f*ng Internet.
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« Reply #1835 on: 31/03/2016 17:09:47 »
In short, it seems that we don't grow up until we're somewhere in the fifties. Tolkien was perfectly correct to put the age from wild and thoughtless youth, to getting somewhat mature to thirty three. if my memory now stand me by? We get so filled with idiotic ideas, all those 'pressures' that we have to adapt to, that it takes a lifetime to sort out what really is important.
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« Reply #1836 on: 31/03/2016 17:16:11 »
Do you really think that Einstein needed those other ideas? That they was all important ( as you see I reuse, saves energy:) for creating relativity? Bs.
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« Reply #1837 on: 31/03/2016 17:17:33 »
You have a good mind, use it.
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« Reply #1838 on: 31/03/2016 17:36:44 »
Do you know that modern gene technology actually shrink genetic diversity? Profit defines it, it has to grow fast, look good to you instinctively, and be cheap to produce. That means that it will lack substances that has taken nature millions of years to create, because they takes more time, They're too slow, and it seems we're to stupid to see why we should keep it. We all want to be fast, and beautiful :). And in a social context that's not who you are but whom you present yourself to be.
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« Reply #1839 on: 31/03/2016 17:39:05 »
That doesn't mean that gene technology can't keep it, or even make a better product, just that profit and stupidity walks the other way.
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« Reply #1840 on: 31/03/2016 17:53:07 »
one billion people to seven, in one hundred years. We're becoming a locust to this planet, in so many ways. And it's the best spaceship we have. No matter what we can do, Earth is home. Yo really think that living in some space habitat, mimicking this earth, will be better? And what would you do with those purposefully destroying it?
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« Reply #1841 on: 31/03/2016 17:53:48 »
It's high time for you to wake up.
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« Reply #1842 on: 31/03/2016 17:55:55 »
We need grownups now, not profit makers. And it starts with you.
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« Reply #1843 on: 31/03/2016 18:04:01 »
And you don't need to be a revolutionary to do it. Just be yourself, and take your time. Don't let others tell you what to think. Yeah, it includes me too :) But you need to decide whether you want your kids to have a better life, or a worse. And that one is now.
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« Reply #1844 on: 31/03/2016 18:06:57 »
We're at a breaking point, but we're not passed it. We're balancing, one way or another. We may become a 'failed species' in which case I'm sure nature, mother earth if you like, will try again. Or we can decide that what makes us happy isn't 'profit'.
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« Reply #1845 on: 31/03/2016 18:27:53 »
If you like I can turn it around?

'Survival of the fittest' :)

Would that be profit? Where exactly are we at present? 'Vulgar Darwinism' has a definite lure to it, but it's not a answer. I can say this, we're now at a point where we can lift ourselves by our hair, if we want. Or we can stay there, to let the last one standing scream on the garbage heap that Earth become, 'I'm the winner'.

Your choice, and your life.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1846 on: 31/03/2016 18:40:08 »
Most of the 'problems' to living circles around ones fear of death, if you accept that you too will die, then a lot of the 'pressures' that define you falls away. Actually, it will allow you to live. That's not a bad thing, and you don't need a gym for it either.

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1847 on: 04/04/2016 12:39:53 »
It's like standing up for life, not the life that people inform you of.
The life you feel you have inside.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1848 on: 04/04/2016 12:41:13 »
And you really need to be prepared to die for it. Unless you're the one standing as the last man or woman, screaming that you won.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1849 on: 04/04/2016 12:45:11 »
It was never force, it was just living, and letting live.
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