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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1850 on: 04/04/2016 12:54:19 »
it won't make you happier. it will just make you honest.
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« Reply #1851 on: 04/04/2016 13:01:43 »
You can live as a sheep, directed by others, no matter what you tell me :)
Or you can do it on your own, accepting life, and ones mistakes.

It won't get you a nicer coffin, but it will be something.
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« Reply #1852 on: 04/04/2016 13:13:11 »
And if we do it?

Maybe it will change, it won't change if you continue the path of acceptance and conformity though. Furthermore, it does not need you to kill civilians, it just need you to be true to yourself, instead of greed.
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« Reply #1853 on: 04/04/2016 14:10:35 »
The other way is the book of five rings, Machiavelli's ideas of how to survive, and for each one of us, our own nuclear device, just in case. It's the trodden path, and it took us to here. You like the view?
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« Reply #1854 on: 04/04/2016 14:11:27 »
:)

I don't.
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« Reply #1855 on: 09/04/2016 12:41:27 »
I know, I should really be sober, shouldn't I? And show you my degrees?

Well, F* you :)

And if you like, F* me too..

Because that's what we're best on, isn't it?
F**ing.
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« Reply #1856 on: 09/04/2016 12:42:53 »
brawling, and F***ng.

That's what us make us those 'masters' of this poor mishandled earth.
You think NASA would accept us handling a space mission?
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« Reply #1857 on: 09/04/2016 12:43:52 »
You can't wake up, can you?
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« Reply #1858 on: 09/04/2016 12:47:16 »
Itf there was a God, I could use it, to force you to wake up. That was a working tool in medieval times. But you don't really need a God. Not if we are the ones experiencing the mystery and wonder of living. Experiencing the universe. You will take yourself with you. Not your son, not your sister, yourself.
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« Reply #1859 on: 09/04/2016 12:48:34 »
If you can't see what is right here, what makes you think you can handle death?
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« Reply #1860 on: 09/04/2016 12:49:03 »
Your own, not some victims, coward.
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« Reply #1861 on: 09/04/2016 12:50:53 »
That's about it I guess :)
You can't stand dying, but you can live, as a sheep.

I'm not impressed.
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« Reply #1862 on: 09/04/2016 13:21:25 »
Wish I could be nicer, usually I am, but my time is running out, as is yours. Doesn't matter how tough you define yourself as. Your time is also running out, as is everything you ever cared about. Don't lie, taste the air and see.
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« Reply #1863 on: 09/04/2016 15:16:01 »
Don't know, but one of the worst things about me writing this is that I think you feel it as a attack.

It was never a attack, and you won't get less when questioning this.
It's just me, wondering what it takes to die.
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« Reply #1864 on: 09/04/2016 15:44:24 »
It's the way of the warrior.

And it's yours.
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« Reply #1865 on: 09/04/2016 15:52:22 »
;)

I don't really care. I told you how it works, and how you can win. You need your own mind for it though, not someone else promises. I don't know if you can handle it?
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« Reply #1866 on: 09/04/2016 15:52:50 »
Can you?
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« Reply #1867 on: 09/04/2016 16:22:11 »
Don't know if I mentioned it?

There is a difference between a warrior and a soldier. A warrior goes by feelings. He will offer you clemency, when soldiers won't. I think Alfred Lord Tennyson presented it best.

'Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do and die'

It do has a certain fatalistic nobility to it, as if you were part of a machine, but you're not. You happen to be a human being,
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« Reply #1868 on: 09/04/2016 16:25:53 »
Show me.
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« Reply #1869 on: 11/04/2016 07:58:31 »
Ever wondered about power structures? The way, no matter what ideals that are presented, the wrong people always seem to get to the top, manipulating us?

Well, they're no more 'evil' than you might have been, getting the possibility. They are just obeying our first law of existence, the one of greed. And it is us that allow them to exist there.  A democratic society then need a lot of 'laws' and 'rules' regulating it so that the discrepancy between those that have and those that don't doesn't become to blatant.

But you're the one supporting it, and believe it or not. As long as your real ideals are the ones they have, 'greed and profit' you have no right criticizing them. You're just not as accomplished as they might be in living the first rule of existence.
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« Reply #1870 on: 11/04/2016 08:00:54 »
Ideals also need you understanding, and living, them. And yes, isn't it time you asked yourself what those ideals are?
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« Reply #1871 on: 11/04/2016 08:07:07 »
The 'rule' I refer to is actually a ideal too. The one of where the 'market' knows best, the one where the Earth riches are infinite, the one where we never can do anything wrong, and the one where all streets sooner or later will be pawed with gold, and you a millionaire. And we use what I and others call 'vulgar Darwinism' to defend it. The right of power to take what it wants.

So, it's not them, it's you that need to change.
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« Reply #1872 on: 11/04/2016 08:12:15 »
It actually is the way of the warrior, it's the way of a individual, not the ideals for a machine. But then again, did you really consider yourself a machine? If you do :) What can I say? Hope you grow up before you die.
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« Reply #1873 on: 11/04/2016 08:33:55 »
So, what does those unspoken ideals we live by need. Well, what about the idea of us becoming a well oiled 'machine' of 'force', forcing our dreams upon others. One where you consider yourself a part, without individual responsibility, of that same 'machine'. As some might say, gain the world but lose your soul.
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« Reply #1874 on: 11/04/2016 08:39:59 »
And if you look around, you can see our present ideals driving us into despair. Don't need global warming for it, although that is the force that will stop us living those outmoded ideals, alternatively, just stop us living.
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« Reply #1875 on: 11/04/2016 08:41:50 »
You really like Earth becoming your garbage heap? Do you think a growing bank account change that?
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« Reply #1876 on: 11/04/2016 08:54:08 »
Take a look at the costs Japan payed, to clean up its country from the worst of its former greed and 'profit making'. Don't know any other country trying it afterwards, the costs are prohibitive, as well as it becomes taking resources from others. We can't even clean up a nuclear site, well, we can, but the costs for reinstalling a virgin environment are extreme. So, instead we refer to this 'infinite Earth' we live on and move slightly away from it. Should that impress me?
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« Reply #1877 on: 11/04/2016 08:56:20 »
And no, I'm not referring to Fukushima when I speak of reinstalling what once was in Japan, and the costs involved in doing so. Fukushima is a recent problem, and one with no real solution so far.
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« Reply #1878 on: 11/04/2016 08:58:00 »
one kid per person. for at least two hundred years.
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« Reply #1879 on: 15/04/2016 19:15:07 »
Naturally, you won't ever see a politician support this thesis. But I will, and so will you when you wake. And then comes the question of what you want to teach your kids? Conformity and acceptance, or the way of the warrior? There is no muscles involved, except your true self, the one you will meet as you die.
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« Reply #1880 on: 15/04/2016 19:16:45 »
Don't you think that one should be able to exist? Does it disturb you? Well, I guess you're on your way if so :)
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« Reply #1881 on: 15/04/2016 19:18:38 »
You need to turn your head. You need to see what makes you want to live.
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« Reply #1882 on: 15/04/2016 19:20:57 »
never force, learning, educating, and knowing that this struggle is one you always have. It's not a thing that ever will be finished. It's about growing, sometimes falling back, but never give up. And it's you.
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« Reply #1883 on: 15/04/2016 19:21:53 »
Do your best, it will be good enough.
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« Reply #1884 on: 15/04/2016 19:30:12 »
Do you really think that the last thing you will meet is yourself lying to yourself? I don't expect it to be so, do you? Why not start before?
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« Reply #1885 on: 15/04/2016 19:44:31 »
It won't change a thing. we will be as we always was, but it will change everything.
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« Reply #1886 on: 15/04/2016 19:58:16 »
It's a hard thing to explain, it's very simple, and very hard to live, but it's the only thing I think we can change this world by. It's not about forcing others, not yourself either. It's about being brave, looking at yourself, and acknowledging that you're just as worth living as the next one. Not telling others how to live, but choosing who you want to be, if you were free.
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« Reply #1887 on: 15/04/2016 20:00:39 »
You live, and then you die
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« Reply #1888 on: 17/04/2016 07:43:27 »
Ever wondered about corruption? And wether it has grown, or gone down, due to our new use of technology, fast communications, etc? I will state that it has grown, and that people are protecting each other from scrutiny in new ways, as for example Googles new implementation of 'truth' where you only will get search results that those mentioned won't find 'offensive' to themselves, and it will be Google that define that as far as I get, and those able to lean on them naturally. Anyone remember when Google actually had a 'cache' that would tell you when people finding material uncomfortable, as in removing statements they once made. It would still keep the comments etc. Don't see it anymore. 
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« Reply #1889 on: 17/04/2016 07:45:44 »
Internet was meant to be free. And it was up to you to do your source checks, no different from checking up on your neighbors statements of life and people. You're giving it away those days.
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« Reply #1890 on: 17/04/2016 07:51:43 »
Internet was not meant to be 'owned' by bureaucracies or business, of any kind. Doesn't matter what they tell you their aim are for owning it. And yes, it is offensive at times, but that can be checked without giving it away. It's a question of education, both of laws, as well as of ourselves. Everything comes down to that in the end. The laws made will only be as good as those creating them. And if you're corrupted already, unable to see yourself, then?
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« Reply #1891 on: 17/04/2016 07:58:00 »
Instead we have a Internet getting less and less trustworthy, and where 'force' meets 'force' in ever growing proportions. Hackers versus commercial and political interests for example. With both of them lying to themselves, well, more or less :) . Force does not solve force.
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« Reply #1892 on: 17/04/2016 08:00:11 »
It leads to wars, not to solutions, unless you deem democracy to be failed, and wish for a 'regulated system' in where each one of us know our place, a 'caste system' of sorts.

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« Reply #1893 on: 17/04/2016 08:02:32 »
And yes, before those kind of systems becomes implemented we will get our wars, as well as after.
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« Reply #1894 on: 17/04/2016 08:05:40 »
Internet was meant to be as free as breathing still is, Then again, we buy our water today, don't we?
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« Reply #1896 on: 17/04/2016 09:38:12 »
Has he done his source checks?
Will you too check?
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« Reply #1897 on: 17/04/2016 09:39:07 »
Depend on if you're awake, doesn't it?
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« Reply #1898 on: 29/04/2016 18:56:24 »
Want to hear a crazy idea?

Sat with a friend, drinking :)
(well, looking at the way I look at life, what the f* did you expect? :)

We talked about life and expectations and he said he wanted us to make something going out, he's not like me. He has values :)

What do you say?
I'm not the best guide of life, I have my way of looking at it, although it won't fit all palates. He has his.

I don't know?
A crazy idea?

Then again, what the f* did you expect from me?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1899 on: 29/04/2016 18:57:03 »
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