An essay in futility, too long to read :)

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #2100 on: 09/06/2016 11:00:33 »
If 'c' is a ultimate clock, as fine threaded as you can get, then time is.
The universe we're inside?
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« Reply #2101 on: 09/06/2016 11:05:23 »
Connections and time.
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« Reply #2102 on: 09/06/2016 11:06:30 »
No time, the connections won't be there. Introduce time and change comes. To it add a set of rules as 'c'. A symmetry break.
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« Reply #2103 on: 09/06/2016 11:08:12 »
I think a symmetry break is the best description myself. The 'symmetry' being whatever we, and it, came from.
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« Reply #2104 on: 09/06/2016 11:09:14 »
A different set of rules.
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« Reply #2105 on: 09/06/2016 11:10:03 »
Or if one like, a 'mirror' coexisting.
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« Reply #2106 on: 09/06/2016 11:11:11 »
And it is here, but we've just started to explore the rules it follows.
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« Reply #2107 on: 09/06/2016 11:12:15 »
We call it quantum mechanics, and possibly strings and loops.
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« Reply #2108 on: 09/06/2016 11:13:52 »
Quantum mechanics has the advantage of being test able practically, strings and loops becomes a extreme lot more difficult to test practically.
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« Reply #2109 on: 09/06/2016 11:18:13 »
We are hampered by time though, it is a tool we use that fits our universe, but it probably won't fit the other side of that mirror, not if time is what makes the symmetry break possible.
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« Reply #2110 on: 09/06/2016 11:19:23 »
you need the right set of tools to work, the wrong set will put you at a disadvantage.
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« Reply #2111 on: 09/06/2016 11:21:58 »
That doesn't state that time is a illusion. It's as real as can be for us, and everything else, inside this universe.
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« Reply #2112 on: 09/06/2016 11:23:59 »
We describe things locally. All our standards come to be locally. Local measurements compared and agreed on becomes 'universal standards'. The universes origin is also local.
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« Reply #2113 on: 09/06/2016 11:25:38 »
The universe consist of connections and rules, in time.
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« Reply #2114 on: 09/06/2016 11:28:55 »
For a physicist the word 'local' has two meanings. One is the surface in where it seems obvious that local measurements compared is what gives us this common base, a 'standard' to go out from. The other definition is the one Einstein introduced, of what was 'local'.
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« Reply #2115 on: 09/06/2016 11:36:47 »
Time for example, is a very local phenomena. Locally defined, by your wristwatch, it won't matter what 'speed' you define to yourself relative something else, or what mass you are on. You will age just the same locally measured. That's a general definition, that become arguable as you go down in scale, comparing for example different molecules with different 'relative speeds' and mass, but as also, in the end, will prove to be true again. Time is locally defined of a same pace, for us all.
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« Reply #2116 on: 09/06/2016 11:41:50 »
So, what is this 'universe', and those 'universal standards' we think us see.
Constants.
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« Reply #2117 on: 09/06/2016 16:22:37 »
Indeterminacy, so alike 'free will'.
The rest is history.
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« Reply #2118 on: 09/06/2016 16:42:51 »
I don't believe in a universe bifurcating. The logic extremely fast becomes impossibly convoluted. It's not simple and I like simple. I like the ideas of it all coexisting instead, and then allow rules and connections defining what we see 'inside'. It does something different than 'dimensions' if it is logic and rules. It allow all 'universes' to coexist, none excluded, but also impossible to reach. It's the rules that define your sight.
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« Reply #2119 on: 09/06/2016 16:43:45 »
Do you see it?
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« Reply #2120 on: 09/06/2016 16:44:37 »
In the beginning there was constants.
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« Reply #2121 on: 09/06/2016 16:48:41 »
It makes us all right, doesn't it :)
Those that calls time a illusion.
Those that tells you that the universe is finite.

etc etc etc.
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« Reply #2122 on: 09/06/2016 16:50:38 »
It's a opening, and your imagination will be what limit it.
In itself I don't expect limitations, as long as it hangs together logically.

a weird origin, but it's yours.
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« Reply #2123 on: 09/06/2016 16:52:04 »
What defines a universe is logic, and constants.

A magic universe on the other tentacle?
Who needs it, when you have this?
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« Reply #2124 on: 09/06/2016 16:56:54 »
A magic universe is one in where entropy becomes a laughingstock. Where time is a free choice, as anyones birth, nothing is defined.
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« Reply #2125 on: 09/06/2016 16:58:06 »
You don't have a chance in such a universe.
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« Reply #2126 on: 09/06/2016 16:59:49 »
Be happy that you have one. And do the best you can to make it better. Because that's a logic too.
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« Reply #2127 on: 09/06/2016 17:01:48 »
logic will become ethics, if we make it.
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« Reply #2128 on: 09/06/2016 17:05:40 »
It's called going the full circle.
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« Reply #2129 on: 09/06/2016 17:06:40 »
And it waits for you.
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« Reply #2130 on: 09/06/2016 17:19:04 »
Another point you need to see.

There are no illegal immigrants, there are humans.
And one earth.
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« Reply #2131 on: 09/06/2016 17:20:03 »
make it better.

you don't have to love everyone to do your best.
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« Reply #2132 on: 09/06/2016 17:28:08 »
And thanks, if you now had the patience to read me :)
It's a rambling tread, but if you look at the beginning I told you, didn't I?
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« Reply #2133 on: 09/06/2016 17:28:56 »
Do your best, that's all that is needed.
I have a lot of faith in you actually.
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« Reply #2134 on: 09/06/2016 17:52:40 »
Be brave.

You live. and then you die.

So what the f* do I expect of you?
Clemency and bravery :)
And a love for life.
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« Reply #2135 on: 09/06/2016 18:34:22 »
Have kids?

then you better trust them, and yourself.
No matter what.

Or you're better of not being born.
Can you see that one?
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« Reply #2136 on: 09/06/2016 18:38:04 »
It was never a question of only you :)
It's about life.

You represent it.
What you gonna do?
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« Reply #2137 on: 09/06/2016 18:39:28 »
A warrior
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« Reply #2138 on: 09/06/2016 18:44:59 »
don't kiss anybody's a**
Be yourself.

Life is not worth more than what you put into it.
So make it better.
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« Reply #2139 on: 09/06/2016 18:47:14 »
Do it
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« Reply #2140 on: 09/06/2016 18:56:26 »
We can always give ourselves a bullet each.
Would that satisfy?

Or do you want something more?
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« Reply #2141 on: 09/06/2016 18:57:37 »
A warrior.
Never a machine.
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« Reply #2142 on: 09/06/2016 19:14:44 »
We have a place here, each one existing. To deprive another of that place is never ethics. But we can hide it in a lot of useless terms, loved by those paying for it. don't be stupid, be a warrior.
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« Reply #2143 on: 09/06/2016 19:16:24 »
Just do your best, and trust in your ability to differ good from bad.
You can
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« Reply #2144 on: 09/06/2016 19:18:47 »
Yea whiskey :)

Still, it's what I think.
And f* you if you can't handle it.
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« Reply #2145 on: 09/06/2016 19:21:02 »
I do want you to grow.
And I think you too want it.

Handle it.
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« Reply #2146 on: 09/06/2016 19:26:08 »
Expressed another way, the magic is here, and it's called life :)
So why don't you let yourself live?
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« Reply #2147 on: 10/06/2016 21:24:29 »
You're perfectly correct, death ends it all.
So what?
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« Reply #2148 on: 10/06/2016 21:25:24 »
F that
be yourself.
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« Reply #2149 on: 10/06/2016 21:28:23 »
You gonna hide into death.
What a clever way to live.

You know about sheep's?
Good for eating, and the wool they leave is nice too.
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