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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #2500 on: 22/10/2016 19:19:56 »
And if you don't think that good and bad exist.
Please stop reading me.
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« Reply #2501 on: 22/10/2016 19:30:45 »
You was young once, do you remember?
I do

And it's not like being grown up.

But it is what we should be
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« Reply #2502 on: 22/10/2016 19:31:34 »
responsible.
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« Reply #2503 on: 22/10/2016 19:57:01 »
The point may be, I did a lot of extensive reading as young. Much more than you might imagine, I had time. And it colored my life. a lot of the bs* you see today isn't about those surviving, it's about handling it so that you can read it. sometimes even losing itself to other ideas. I don't kiss that that kind of a**. Never did, and won't do it. Take it anyway you like.
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« Reply #2504 on: 22/10/2016 19:57:34 »
Grow up
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« Reply #2505 on: 22/10/2016 20:07:20 »
And now, I will stop some from finding me acceptable :)

As a guess that is, those that think in black and white
Life isn't, honor is.

Honor is you
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« Reply #2506 on: 22/10/2016 20:14:25 »
No simple answers, doesn't matter what your upbringing gives you.
Honor is you.

And no. not about any other instance.
Can you accept it?
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« Reply #2507 on: 22/10/2016 20:24:51 »
One more thing, dreams are dreams, imagination may not know limits. But in life, the life you live, the people you touch, responsibility, and love, will tell you your limits. And if they don't. I hope people will show you your shortcomings. If they don't? Well, good riddance to us.
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« Reply #2508 on: 22/10/2016 20:36:50 »
Well, I sound like some weird disciplinarian, don't I?
F* that

Go for the one you should be, not the one people want you to be.
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« Reply #2509 on: 22/10/2016 20:56:08 »
I will tell you one thing. Everything you read about a war, is from those surviving it.
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« Reply #2510 on: 22/10/2016 20:57:52 »
Yeah, some might have written something before dying. Then again, does that make me wrong?
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« Reply #2511 on: 22/10/2016 20:59:45 »
So how many survive a modern war?
Depends on what you're thinking about?

Small arms war?

Third world war?
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« Reply #2512 on: 22/10/2016 21:01:41 »
How about all those nuclear plants, in a modern war?
How about you? Where do you live?
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« Reply #2513 on: 22/10/2016 21:02:28 »
How stupid are you?
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« Reply #2514 on: 22/10/2016 21:07:14 »
Do you really expect facilities to survive a third world war?
Like water, electricity, food?

Will you take your presumptions with you, explaining to your kids that it's a much better thing to die than to survive? And then do it before them to show them that holy 'rightness'?

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« Reply #2515 on: 22/10/2016 21:08:24 »
Do you really think that a married couple, anywhere, consider this?
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« Reply #2516 on: 22/10/2016 21:08:46 »
Grow up
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« Reply #2517 on: 22/10/2016 21:10:26 »
I'm not interested in fanatics, but I think it's high time for the rest of us to react.
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« Reply #2518 on: 22/10/2016 21:13:38 »
This world is shrinking real fast.
Check it out
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« Reply #2519 on: 22/10/2016 21:15:36 »
Do you think people loving each other always will run to where they can get the most money for their work? Would you? Emigrate to Saudi Arabia?
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« Reply #2520 on: 22/10/2016 21:16:05 »
Global warming
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« Reply #2521 on: 22/10/2016 21:17:25 »
Ah sh*

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« Reply #2522 on: 22/10/2016 21:18:15 »
Don't know who you are, and neither do global warming.
Wake up to it :)
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« Reply #2523 on: 22/10/2016 21:31:18 »
The world wide temperature, ahem :)

"The 10 warmest years in the 134-year record all have occurred since 2000, with the exception of 1998. The year 2015 ranks as the warmest on record"

"The majority of the world's land surface had warmer to much-warmer-than-average temperatures during June 2016, with the largest temperature departures observed across much of north-central Russia, the Russian Far East, and northern Australia where temperature departures were 3.0°C (5.4°F) or higher. Record warmth was sporadically across parts of the southwestern contiguous U.S., southern Mexico, northeastern Brazil, northeastern and southwestern Africa, the Middle East, northern Australia, and Indonesia. The only land area with cooler-than-average conditions during June 2016, according to the percentiles map, was central and southern South America. No land areas had a record cold temperature during June 2016. According to NCEI's Global Regional Analysis, five of six continents had at least a top five warm June, with North America observing a record high average temperature for June.

Averaged as a whole, the global temperature across land surfaces for June 2016 was 1.24°C (2.23°F) above the 20th century average—tying with 2015 as the highest June temperature in the 1880–2016 record. June 2016 marks the 34th consecutive June with temperatures at least nominally above average. The last time global land surface temperatures were below average in June was in 1982 (-0.05°C / -0.09°F)."

Now paste a real war over this, not one where we 'sponsor it' but one that touch you, and your loved ones.
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« Reply #2524 on: 22/10/2016 21:31:57 »
How stupid are you?
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« Reply #2525 on: 22/10/2016 21:32:46 »
You will kiss ass, won't you?
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« Reply #2526 on: 22/10/2016 21:34:52 »
Maybe not?

It depends, do you understand that you live, and that then you die?
Does your kids matter for it?
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« Reply #2527 on: 22/10/2016 21:36:01 »
I don't really know. Wish I did.
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« Reply #2528 on: 22/10/2016 21:37:27 »
Seems I'm out of tune, I see things you don't, and I can't stop it.
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« Reply #2529 on: 22/10/2016 21:41:19 »
If it comes to you and your kids, versus someone else grabbing the food you actually need to survive. Would it matter what nationality they had?

I don't think so, do you?
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« Reply #2530 on: 22/10/2016 21:43:22 »
Forget the ass***es 'deciding'. look at what you need to survive.
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« Reply #2531 on: 22/10/2016 21:44:29 »
Let them sweep themselves in a flag, and good riddance to them.
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« Reply #2532 on: 22/10/2016 21:59:01 »
We still have Internet.

When that is lost, you're lost too.
Communication.
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« Reply #2533 on: 22/10/2016 22:07:19 »
Yep
Not physics, but still about you.
And me
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« Reply #2534 on: 22/10/2016 22:09:21 »
You don't need to be a muscle builder for this.
You just need to be sane.

And believe that you matter.
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« Reply #2535 on: 22/10/2016 22:10:39 »
So :)

Do you?
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« Reply #2536 on: 22/10/2016 22:34:18 »
Ah well. You consider it, for me it's simple. As I'm not entirely inside your crowd I handle it on my own. I define my limits, and my shortcomings.  But I won't kiss ass.
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« Reply #2537 on: 24/10/2016 11:51:52 »
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« Reply #2538 on: 24/10/2016 11:59:45 »
I really like this one, and if you think of it as 'everything' being 'superpositions' before a measurement it becomes a 'network' of relations, that fall out into a observer dependent reality of measurements. And as long as you find a way to define two objects colliding as being a measurement too you cover most I can think of for the moment. That means that we will be noticed as we disappear, by the 'universe', there will be changes in the relations of entanglements, as I don't see where, or how, you can limit them either. And it's a beautiful explanation for 'inertia' existing even when no 'gravitational potential' is measurable, acting on you, except that course change.
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Actually, it also lights up the idea of 'Machs universe', although, before the measurement is 'done'.
And what defines that measurement then?

Time, isn't it?
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That is, if you don't belong to the crowd thinking that consciousness is all?
Then that is 'time' too, I guess? :)

And a Big Bang can't have been there, no 'consciousness' you see.
Actually your parents didn't 'exist' before you did either. Unless you now define 'consciousness' as existing without you, and the moon too then?

Simple :)
Nooooo
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Actually it is simple. Consciousness is what we use to experience the world, but you don't need that to 'collapse a wave function'. You just need time, and 'measurements'. The 'measurements' are 'change', which I translate into time.


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« Reply #2539 on: 24/10/2016 12:04:04 »
It fits my questions about a vacuum too.
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« Reply #2540 on: 24/10/2016 12:05:30 »
I'm not partial to the idea of me being the world. It's not simple. but change the definition of what a measurement should be seen as and I will be much happier.
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« Reply #2541 on: 24/10/2016 12:09:19 »
And yes, it's a tentative first definition of what 'quantum gravity' could be.
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« Reply #2542 on: 24/10/2016 12:10:16 »
Also I better point out that it question what a 'dimension' is. Which I'm stuck on too.
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« Reply #2543 on: 24/10/2016 12:11:59 »
I  really like it as a 'network' of 'relations', unmeasured. No 'dimensions' at all, they are our inventions. Or 'SpaceTimes' if you like? and 'scales'.
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« Reply #2544 on: 24/10/2016 12:14:36 »
So, what is important here :)
Well. you're connected my friend. You're never alone. Honor is what defines you.
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« Reply #2545 on: 24/10/2016 12:26:21 »
That we find it so easy to explain in terms of 'geometries' is to me a result of a logic, it's not the sole truth of it, although it definitely fits 'SpaceTime'. It's a question of scales. And if I remember right Einstein himself wasn't too happy using geometry, he used algebra.
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« Reply #2546 on: 24/10/2016 12:48:14 »
Apropos global warming. This one is very well written. After you read it you might see why I worry. Didn't think I would live to see it happening, but if this is correct we might be at a turning point. It all belongs to chaos mathematics and non linear systems 'wobbling'. Climate tipping point could be here 

I hope it's wrong.
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« Reply #2547 on: 24/10/2016 12:53:16 »
I've been thinking of using that 'world mean temperature' and define it to the 'Baltic sea' solely. I guess it would boil :) Takes a lot of 'energy' to raise the temperature 1.5 C (approximately) over a whole Earth.
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« Reply #2548 on: 24/10/2016 13:01:25 »
Ok then, not boil :)

Then again, The Baltic is a shallow sea, only some hundred meters deep. And the heat we're talking about is not solely stored in a atmosphere. a lot of has already been 'hidden' into oceans, and land. You have to count on that too.
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« Reply #2549 on: 24/10/2016 14:11:24 »
"Each of the first six months of 2016 set a record as the warmest respective month globally in the modern temperature record, which dates to 1880, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

The six-month period from January to June was also the planet's warmest half-year on record, with an average temperature 1.3 degrees Celsius (2.4 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than the late nineteenth century."

And please stop arguing that this is a good thing. It won't make the planet 'greener', at some concentration, and even though you might, at some few places,see a green growth, there exist several studies proving the effect to be at a 'best case' temporary, disappearing as the CO2 concentration grows.
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