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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4980 on: 18/01/2019 07:46:43 »
I understand most scientists challenge the idea of God, yet, most scientists challenge one another.....in fact, everyone does.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4981 on: 18/01/2019 08:01:23 »
The idea of God though isn't as bad as we think it is on a time-bomb planet. God for instance in most of the faiths is not evident, is a future construct, offers reward for certain behaviour. Science mocks understandably what can't be proven in the future, yet that's natural. Yet "God" as a concept is an ingredient to how many people think, how they decide, and thus how they decide to apply science. How "we" as a species have accepted "hope".
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4982 on: 18/01/2019 08:06:40 »
Faiths do offer the idea of natural abundance in the after-life, for those worthy of that faith, yet...hmmm....there's no condition on us to care for that future paradise....or is there, as based on our behaviour in the here and now?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4983 on: 18/01/2019 08:13:12 »
Its really about our intention.

If I were offered 50 Virgins for my good deeds, as a promise of faith, am I a devil in a newly built whore-house or am I a Priest sharing the wisdom of God with 50 nuns?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4984 on: 18/01/2019 08:21:05 »
When you think about it, our hope in the future for ourselves, which inevitably in time cam become a collective thing, is what drives us.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4985 on: 18/01/2019 08:30:07 »
Its very difficult....Is the end held as an eternal condition, or does it script a fall from grace?

Faith though should define that answer.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4986 on: 18/01/2019 08:34:05 »
Watch the greyhounds:

https://www.tab.com.au/racing/meetings/today/G





Faith for fast dogs.

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4987 on: 18/01/2019 08:39:39 »
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=greyhound+race+2018+gold+cup&&view=detail&mid=32B4C465F291A532A74532B4C465F291A532A745&&FORM=VRDGAR


Faith...watch the dog cross over the course.


We're different, right?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4988 on: 18/01/2019 08:50:25 »
We "are" different, that's why we put chains on dogs.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4989 on: 18/01/2019 08:53:09 »
One doesn't have to be a genius to know our role though.

Its scary. Are we negotiating with a planet natural reserve, like we are forcing it into extinction....as a process of communication, as we do between nations?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4990 on: 18/01/2019 09:00:12 »
Its nonsense to consider we are helping a "planet"....like it is alive, and we need to consider it. Pure nonsense.

I agree.

It defies everything we try to achieve with technology and AI.

Yet we try to be the more powerful and god-cogniscant entity.


Hmmm.


Someone pull these ideas up here......

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4991 on: 18/01/2019 09:42:32 »
An essay of futility too long: BREXIT.


The UK people voted.

#1 the result wasn't expected.
#2 the result is hard to overturn.

#3 lets just forget the result right.....?

#4 what are referendum's anyway?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4992 on: 18/01/2019 09:48:46 »
This is UK voters expressing themselves, only to be dilly-dallied by the more wealthy who frankly don't care.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4993 on: 18/01/2019 09:49:55 »
No one needs to know, but that's democracy.....used as an affidavit.....like, "we have democracy, but ultimately if it doesn't work, we'll change that". The question for England is, "who is changing that"? The Monarchy?...or a democracy designed to be weak?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4994 on: 20/01/2019 06:32:15 »
" Is this just another essay in futility, is this line of topic pointless? " :)

Depends

I named it an essay in futility, because it is, one way. In another it's the most self empowering thing you might read, if you use it right. I trust in individuals Opportunity, a lot more than I trust in governments, then again, nobody's perfect right? For each one of us daring to use ones own mind a little revolution opens. That and education, governments seems to fail in both, no matter where you look, so you, me, and everyone else have to take care of it ourselves. Checking ones sources, not accepting BS just because it's someone you know make that revolution. Everybody likes to rule, and push opinions on each other, but I see no reason to accept it. That where checking sources becomes invaluable, without that one become a tool for someone else.
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« Reply #4995 on: 20/01/2019 06:48:39 »
When it comes to Brexit you can see it several ways. It's like a bureaucracy, both good and bad. The idea isn't bad though, people cooperating and communicating over the borders, it may not be perfect but it's better than war. But we need also, in my opinion that is, to break away from overbearing big bureaucracy's with faint knowledge of what makes life 'tick' at a local plane deciding what's 'best for me'.  The world is constructed around 'making money', and so are its cooperation's and institutions. It's already a failed ideal, one just need to look at inequality to see it. And as you seem to say, the world is indeed growing smaller each day, its resources dwindling.

Against it we have people thinking for themselves.
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« Reply #4996 on: 20/01/2019 06:55:50 »
But I prefer to avoid politics. Principles of physics applied on life makes better sense to me, I think that's a lasting contribution to mankind. Checking your sources, checking yourself, and do what good you can where you are.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #4997 on: 22/01/2019 13:17:50 »
"  if a repeatable experiment can be proven to be done, giving a same result, no matter ones 'relative speed' (uniform motion) then this must be wrong. Because if you go out from presuming that your 'proper time' change with your motion, then those experiments can't be equal, they are no longer 'identical' as their 'time rates' are supposedly different.

so we have a test. Will a repeatable experiment care for your relative speed? "

You should think this over. According to relativity there is no 'golden standard', according to 'repeatable experiments' there is. 'Do they work' should be your first question.

Yes, they do.
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« Reply #4998 on: 22/01/2019 13:19:04 »
The next should be 'why'?

And if you haven't asked yourself that one it's high time.
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« Reply #4999 on: 22/01/2019 13:23:53 »
According to the first your 'proper time' is a arbitrarily set 'time rate'. No way for you to know your own as there is no standard. You can use it to set others 'time rates' from and find a logical ratio versus 'relative motion/uniform motions' 'mass/ energy' and 'speeds' of all kind, accelerating or not. But it doesn't tell you what your time rate is, does it?
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