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You're locked inside a pattern, and you can't get a grip. You just don't understand a f*ng thing about where your place is, or about yourself. And every new generation repeats the same f*ng mistakes.
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You can't even get a democracy. And you know why. It might stop you from what you want.
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None of you have the guts to look at yourself.
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So you reap what you sow. By allowing yourself to take what you want, no matter the consequences you also present your hierarchies with the same. And they take all advantage they can from it, just as you. And you lock yourself into a destructive pattern that will end in your extinction. And you couldn't care less because the future dies with you.
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You're definitely failing, constantly.
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And a book.
'Grand Central Arena' by Ryk E. Spoor
It's interestingly weird.
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I would say that this is more or less a lost cause now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/03/iran-comply-nuclear-deal-biden-lifts-all-sanctions
Iran has turned into just the kind of twisted thinking USA ( at least Mr Bolton and Mr Trump) wanted from them by their sanctions. There is no road to peace here and I don't doubt the Iranians wanting to continue their nuclear program. The last 'bump' that killing of their nuclear scientist. You have to have some sort of good faith existing, but I would say it's gone now. And the world faltering some more on the brink of war.
It's not difficult to twist autocratic minds of countries like Iran, or North Korea. That doesn't mean you should. But hey, it's about business, right? Making 'deals'. Well, we're dealing ourselves a war here.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/27/officials-say-israel-behind-killing-of-iranian-nuclear-scientist-report/
and you call it 'democracy'.
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And don't come talking to me about the good of Western Europe. You followed the sanctions, you just let it unfold, didn't you?
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The Israeli seems to think they can control it. I very much doubt they can and 'the last defense' is becoming more and more likely as Iran's nuclear program develops. I said it before, USA will use Israel and Saudi Arabia. And I was right. Not that they needed any persuasion, just the knowledge of one of the superpowers standing behind them. Read somewhere that the new generation of Israeli spies no longer have a grounding in the countries around them, think it was one of Israeli most admired military, and also peace builder, that wrote it. As he saw the road to peace fall apart.
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You're just like wayward kids, all of you.
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Geoengineering.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/03/china-vows-to-boost-weather-modification-capabilities
Limited time scales, but still.
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It's one of the most stupid ignorant options you can choose. A nuclear war, but you're doing it. You let your hierarchies bully you into it.
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you deserve what's coming. Without a doubt. Doesn't mean I like it but there's nothing I can do to stop you. You will not only meet global warming, deteriorating topsoil, water and groundwater, but also wars. And you don't want a democracy, well knowing that it might stop you from what you want.
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You might think that using atom bombs and intercontinental missiles would be needed to be grounded in a democratic process. Like your extinction should be, a vote on it. That couldn't be further from the truth. You leave it to the exact same type of hierarchies that's driving global warming.
so I call you stupid, and I think I'm understating it.
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Overfishing.
https://www.eca.europa.eu/Lists/ECADocuments/SR20_26/SR_Marine_environment_EN.pdf
don't know why I bother to link it, not sure you can read.
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You can't keep what you have and change the outcome. But that's what you think. Like vultures, fighting over prey. There will be prey but the magnitude will shrink. In the end you will feed on yourself, and then you will be gone.
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I'm not enthusiastic, I know that, and I don't think we're any crown of existence either. We have a role here, but that is only if you understand what you are, you're part of earth, not its ruler.
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And if you want to f* off into space I say good riddance to you. Stay there.
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hypocrisy
" What do a prominent Hong Kong democracy activist, the former prime minister of Sweden and more than 200 parliamentarians from 19 different countries have in common? They’re all drinking Australian wine to “stand against authoritarian bullying” in response to brutal trade tariffs slapped on the country by China amid an escalating diplomatic standoff. "
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/02/democracy-wine-politicians-worldwide-pledge-to-drink-australian-wine-in-stand-against-china
Can't talk for all of those politicians but when it comes to Carl Bildt I have some views I'm afraid. I'll let this talk for itself.
https://upnorth.eu/carl-bildt-to-advise-russian-oil-company/
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You could argue that money doesn't smell, in which case I wouldn't agree.
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