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« on: 10/10/2009 23:48:31 »
Nice eh ?

was delivered ....erhmm...Thursday !

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« Reply #1 on: 10/10/2009 23:55:28 »
Oh.... My.... goodness....



























clean up your room!







is that a scope in your room or are you just happy to see me. (you probably could see me with that... well, if the earth wasn't so round and all)


















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« Reply #2 on: 10/10/2009 23:56:01 »
Stone me!!! That's a serious looking magnifying glass. Was it free with 6 pack tops of corn flakes?

The neighbours had better keep their curtains drawn now, come to think of it, I'd better keep my curtains drawn too! And you Karen.
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« Reply #3 on: 11/10/2009 00:11:21 »
Oh.... My.... goodness....





clean up your room!



is that a scope in your room or are you just happy to see me. (you probably could see me with that... well, if the earth wasn't so round and all)






I'm always pleased to see ewe !.....:-)  Yes, it is rather a mess !...lots of boxes for the cats to jump in and out of !
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« Reply #4 on: 11/10/2009 00:14:51 »
Stone me!!! That's a serious looking magnifying glass. Was it free with 6 pack tops of corn flakes?

The neighbours had better keep their curtains drawn now, come to think of it, I'd better keep my curtains drawn too! And you Karen.


yes..yes...it was the toy inside of a christmas cracker !

My neighbours need not worry..I already have all the holes I need drilled into their walls.


Wifey is a little upset as it takes up the whole room !...I can't really see what all the fuss is about because she has shoes and handbags !

........all I need do now is figure out what all the things do..it has dials and stuff and it has declination this and azimuth that !!..I have not got a clue !!...I need help !
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« Reply #5 on: 11/10/2009 00:32:11 »
Ah! Now, bein' as wot I is, a bit of a Patricia Moore or less, perhaps I can be of some assistance.

First, stick one end out of the window.
NOT THAT END!!! Good grief, you can get arrested for that! One end of the TELESCOPE.

Now, you see the whatjamacallit next to the thingamajig, well that needs to aligned so that the dojamaflip is perpendicular with the whatsistname. Now take the howsyourfather off the whateveritsnameis and Bob's yer uncle.

Any other problems, just let me know.
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« Reply #6 on: 11/10/2009 01:12:08 »
Holy Crap! That's the biggest one I've seen in ages.

Are you going put it up on your roof? You'll need to build a Sheepy Dome over it.

Let us know how it works out. I'm tempted to get a 10 or 12 inch Newtonian, but I'm not sure it's worth it.
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« Reply #7 on: 11/10/2009 01:26:17 »
Ah! Now, bein' as wot I is, a bit of a Patricia Moore or less, perhaps I can be of some assistance.

First, stick one end out of the window.
NOT THAT END!!! Good grief, you can get arrested for that! One end of the TELESCOPE.

Now, you see the whatjamacallit next to the thingamajig, well that needs to aligned so that the dojamaflip is perpendicular with the whatsistname. Now take the howsyourfather off the whateveritsnameis and Bob's yer uncle.

Any other problems, just let me know.


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« Reply #8 on: 11/10/2009 01:28:18 »
Holy Crap! That's the biggest one I've seen in ages.

Are you going put it up on your roof? You'll need to build a Sheepy Dome over it.

Let us know how it works out. I'm tempted to get a 10 or 12 inch Newtonian, but I'm not sure it's worth it.

Isn't Holy Crap what the pope does ?

This is an 8 inch newtonian . Patrick Moore well likes it http://www.opticalvision.co.uk/astronomical_telescopes/sky-watcher/newtonian_reflectors/explorer-200p_eq5

..........as ewe can see from the picture on the site...it looks a lot smaller !!(yes yes..I KNOW that it's not showing ACTUAL size !!)
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« Reply #9 on: 11/10/2009 01:36:38 »
......all I need do now is figure out what all the things do..it has dials and stuff and it has declination this and azimuth that !!..I have not got a clue !!...I need help !

The manufacturer has a "knowledge base" website ...
http://www.skywatchertelescope.net/swtinc/knowledge_base.php

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« Reply #10 on: 11/10/2009 01:47:46 »
that is a serious bit of kit neilep, ive recently purchased a 127mm(5") mak cass telescope and am very pleased with it.

 have you got round to doing the "polar alignment" stuff?  ive downloaded a instruction pdf for mine and am in the process of finding out how thick i am :)

 what lenses do you have? ive a 10mm a 25mm and a 4mm and im wanting a decent barlow lens

 jupiter looks brilliant and the moon is superb esp when not full, i havnt seen saturn yet, im really looking forward to that

 have fun and enjoy

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« Reply #11 on: 11/10/2009 01:53:02 »
Isn't Holy Crap what the pope does ?

No. That would be pontifical crap.

I was thinking of something like this.
http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=08947
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« Reply #12 on: 11/10/2009 01:56:20 »
that is a serious bit of kit neilep, ive recently purchased a 127mm(5") mak cass telescope and am very pleased with it.

 have you got round to doing the "polar alignment" stuff?  ive downloaded a instruction pdf for mine and am in the process of finding out how thick i am :)

 what lenses do you have? ive a 10mm a 25mm and a 4mm and im wanting a decent barlow lens

 jupiter looks brilliant and the moon is superb esp when not full, i havnt seen saturn yet, im really looking forward to that

 have fun and enjoy

aww..thanks @@....I only managed to put it together last night !....and it's full of things that I have no idea about !..always a good place to start eh ?


I really have no idea...all about collimation this and declination that and azimuth this and it has lots of dials and stuff..........well..you get the idea !......I've joined a couple fo astronomy forums where I am finding them to be a really good resource!...but I am a full and total novice

....as soon as I do get sorted out I'll start posting pictures !!..can't wait to see Jupiter !

yes, I have a 10mm, a 25mm  and a 2x Barlow...and a camera adaptor...which means I now need to buy a SLR !

congrats on your purhcase too.......sounds like you've been having fun already !!..YAYYY !!

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« Reply #13 on: 11/10/2009 02:00:27 »
Isn't Holy Crap what the pope does ?

No. That would be pontifical crap.

I was thinking of something like this.
http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=08947

If the pope was pooing this :

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It'll be Hole-y crap !!



woo !!..that's a sexy bit of kit geezer !!...me luff !!

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« Reply #14 on: 11/10/2009 02:09:12 »
You may not need to get a SLR. There are photosensor arrays that attach directly to the scope and feed the image to your PC. If the scope has a drive, you can track objects over time and build up an image of really faint objects. There is a lot of software available (some of it free) to help with this.

The Orion link I posted has some of these sensors. I would think somebody is selling them in the UK.

Here's one

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=astro-imaging_camera/~pcategory=astro-imaging/~product_id=52080
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« Reply #15 on: 11/10/2009 02:10:42 »
... which means I now need to buy a SLR !

A webcam can be used ...

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http://www.webcaddy.com.au/astro/webcam_achieve.htm
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« Reply #16 on: 11/10/2009 02:33:45 »
Excellent pics RD...but I can't drag my Pc out stargazing and attach it to my scope to connect it to my webcam !!...I don't have enuff sticky tape for that !!
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« Reply #17 on: 11/10/2009 07:35:44 »
Stone me!!! That's a serious looking magnifying glass. Was it free with 6 pack tops of corn flakes?

The neighbours had better keep their curtains drawn now, come to think of it, I'd better keep my curtains drawn too! And you Karen.

Woooooo whooooo...Does that mean I have a Peeping Tom.now...?

 Hummmmmmm Don_1, you  best help me figure out a new night time wardrobe, uhhh, or my way out of the night time wardrobe.... LOL we'll arrange some late night shows for Sheepy's new Scope! LOL...LOL... What you gonna wears... I might wear this....

Hey Don.. I don't think Neily knows what really lies beneath a blanket of stars!!!!..LOL..



Now I am baring my soul or skin on TNS LOL and I cannot quit laughing!! Hee hee hee...

« Last Edit: 11/10/2009 08:10:41 by Karen W. »

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« Reply #18 on: 11/10/2009 11:04:39 »
My former housemate bought a 6" Newtonian telescope some time ago and I spent a few hours helping him get it set up. The biggest issue was that the telescope has such a narrow field of view (the moon more-than fills the total area of the viewfinder) that it was very difficult to figure out where it was pointing. It's also tricky because if the the eyepiece focus is too far out, you won't see anything at all either.

With a bit of luck, you can find the moon and sort out the focus - make a mark on the control - it should be much the same focus for eveything in the sky!

(If you look at the moon at the boundary between light and dark - where the sun is hitting the moon at a glancing angle, making lots of contrast, you should see clearly lots of mountains and craters and stuff. You need to touch the scope controls very gently and not touch the eyepiece with your head else it goes all wobbly and yo won't see much.)

Then you need to align the "finder" scope (a small low-magnification / wider field of view) scope on the side so it's pointing in the exact same direction as the main scope. Once that's done, you can use the small scope (which shows you more of the sky) to point the main scope in the correct direction.


If you have the stand and swivels all set up correctly it'll help you keep stars in view as the earth rotates by just twiddling one control. If you just plonk it down randomly then you'll have to tweak both azimuth and elevation to keep things centred. But for the first few views, it probably doesn't matter.


That's one big telescope Neilep. Have you got a dark sky near you though?


You'll soon be needing accessories... like a woolly hat and gloves!
And lots and lots of patience.
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« Reply #19 on: 11/10/2009 11:49:28 »
Sheepy has been up all night playing with his huge thingy. Silly billy, doesn't he know he could go blind doing that, then what'll he do with his telescope?

Here are some of his first major finds:

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« Reply #20 on: 11/10/2009 12:55:52 »
Thats a really sexy outfit Don_1...did you have to shave your legs for that shot??? LOL

Thats  sexier then my outfit!!! LOL...I just thought he might like all those sparkley stars.....LOL...

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« Reply #21 on: 11/10/2009 12:57:38 »
There should be many sights dedicated to the amateur and beginner sky watchers...

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« Reply #22 on: 11/10/2009 13:40:53 »
You may not need to get a SLR. There are photosensor arrays that attach directly to the scope and feed the image to your PC. If the scope has a drive, you can track objects over time and build up an image of really faint objects. There is a lot of software available (some of it free) to help with this.

The Orion link I posted has some of these sensors. I would think somebody is selling them in the UK.

Here's one

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=astro-imaging_camera/~pcategory=astro-imaging/~product_id=52080

Thanks Mr Geezer sir for this valuable nugget if info...My plan (as a sheepy of course) is to own my own space telescope....but, at the moment...££££'s most seriously dictate how far I can go. Though, I have always wanted one..I feel it prudent (lol..that's me attempting to be sensible).....to see how well I do with this. I've heard this particular scope with the mount that I have is very very upgradeable and I can see that a motor driven-goto motor thingy will be my next step..although...perhaps a few new lenses will be be a small treat in the mean time !
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« Reply #23 on: 11/10/2009 13:42:16 »
Stone me!!! That's a serious looking magnifying glass. Was it free with 6 pack tops of corn flakes?

The neighbours had better keep their curtains drawn now, come to think of it, I'd better keep my curtains drawn too! And you Karen.

Woooooo whooooo...Does that mean I have a Peeping Tom.now...?

 Hummmmmmm Don_1, you  best help me figure out a new night time wardrobe, uhhh, or my way out of the night time wardrobe.... LOL we'll arrange some late night shows for Sheepy's new Scope! LOL...LOL... What you gonna wears... I might wear this....

Hey Don.. I don't think Neily knows what really lies beneath a blanket of stars!!!!..LOL..  [;D] [;)]



Now I am baring my soul or skin on TNS LOL and I cannot quit laughing!! Hee hee hee...





LOL..Karen...ewe really are a shining constellation !!
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« Reply #24 on: 11/10/2009 13:46:59 »
My former housemate bought a 6" Newtonian telescope some time ago and I spent a few hours helping him get it set up. The biggest issue was that the telescope has such a narrow field of view (the moon more-than fills the total area of the viewfinder) that it was very difficult to figure out where it was pointing. It's also tricky because if the the eyepiece focus is too far out, you won't see anything at all either.

With a bit of luck, you can find the moon and sort out the focus - make a mark on the control - it should be much the same focus for eveything in the sky!

(If you look at the moon at the boundary between light and dark - where the sun is hitting the moon at a glancing angle, making lots of contrast, you should see clearly lots of mountains and craters and stuff. You need to touch the scope controls very gently and not touch the eyepiece with your head else it goes all wobbly and yo won't see much.)

Then you need to align the "finder" scope (a small low-magnification / wider field of view) scope on the side so it's pointing in the exact same direction as the main scope. Once that's done, you can use the small scope (which shows you more of the sky) to point the main scope in the correct direction.


If you have the stand and swivels all set up correctly it'll help you keep stars in view as the earth rotates by just twiddling one control. If you just plonk it down randomly then you'll have to tweak both azimuth and elevation to keep things centred. But for the first few views, it probably doesn't matter.


That's one big telescope Neilep. Have you got a dark sky near you though?


You'll soon be needing accessories... like a woolly hat and gloves!
And lots and lots of patience.

Thanks techmind..this is all very very helpful and I am most grateful for your kind comments.

yep, I need to do all that but I suspect I need to do a thing called collimation first !???....not too sure what it is but I know it's very important ! LOl..I really am demonstrating the art of jumping in at the deep end.....but..my one consolation , is that I am discovering I am not alone !

Thanks for your advice techmind...you're not near Barnet by any chance are ewe ? . [;)]
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« Reply #25 on: 11/10/2009 13:48:52 »
Sheepy has been up all night playing with his huge thingy. Silly billy, doesn't he know he could go blind doing that, then what'll he do with his telescope?

Here are some of his first major finds:



LOL !!...I'm having to dictate this to my secretary as I can no longer see the keyboard.....the third from the right...is most definitely a heavenly body !   [;D]
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« Reply #26 on: 11/10/2009 13:51:02 »
There should be many sights dedicated to the amateur and beginner sky watchers...

There is Kareny Mam...I have already joined two astronomy forums and have been welcomed. I have even been offered assistance which I am eager to accept....which is nice ! 
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« Reply #27 on: 11/10/2009 13:51:43 »
LOL..Well my constellation was turning really red and getting hot....

Wonder what that means??? LOL..

Does that mean I am burning out or up? LOL..

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« Reply #28 on: 11/10/2009 13:53:53 »
There should be many sights dedicated to the amateur and beginner sky watchers...

There is Kareny Mam...I have already joined two astronomy forums and have been welcomed. I have even been offered assistance which I am eager to accept....which is nice ! 
That is very cool.. I hope you have loads of fun star watching!

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« Reply #29 on: 11/10/2009 17:48:16 »
As Techmind points out, learning to point the thing (the telescope) is challenging. Suggest you start off with the lowest magnification eyepiece till you get the hang of it. Also, I think the collimation adjustment will be less critical at lower magnifications.

Funny thing with telescopes is it's often much more about light capture than magnification power. Also, the greater the magnification, the more sensitive everything becomes to setup, vibration and thermal effects.
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« Reply #30 on: 12/10/2009 03:23:57 »
hey neilep, i think collimation entails adjusting the mirrors so as to have the light coming in the tube and exiting the eyepiece in the dead centre of it. if its slightly out you get a kind of smudge/blurred area of light to one side of your target. if your scope is brand new it may not req coll' as is should have been set at the factory.
 i reckon the first thing to do is to align the finder scope with the main scope to do this you find a stationary target with the main scope and lock it into position then adjust the finder so as the cross hairs (or red dot if its a red dot finder, but yours dont look like one of these) and then your away..............suck it and see as they say

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« Reply #31 on: 12/10/2009 11:56:29 »
Thank ewe Geezer & @@,

I really am most thankful for your kind advice.

I have had someone contact me who lives a few miles away and he has offered to take me through the basics. I think once I get those out of the way I can actually start enjoying it. At the moment, I am enjoying it's beauty by looking at it....I just want to start looking through it.  I think it may be this weekend when we plan to meet up.

Thanks for your advice and support. As soon as I make my first proper viewing I will report back here. I can't wait !
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« Reply #32 on: 12/10/2009 14:52:51 »
Nice eh ?

was delivered ....erhmm...Thursday !

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The tripod, the mount and the finder are the same as the ones I have. The telescope tube is different: I have a 120/1000 refractor. Bought just last week...

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« Reply #33 on: 12/10/2009 17:10:49 »
Wooo !!

Get over here from Italy and we can do some stargazing together !!  [;D]
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« Reply #34 on: 12/10/2009 18:48:30 »
Wooo !!

Get over here from Italy and we can do some stargazing together !!  [;D]
I would come, if I could!
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« Reply #35 on: 12/10/2009 19:12:37 »
Lightarrow heading for London in his Fiat 500

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Note left arm positioned for rapid gesticulation.
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« Reply #36 on: 12/10/2009 20:02:58 »
 [:D] [;D]

(P.S. That's not a Fiat 500, however, but a Volkswagen beetle).

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« Reply #37 on: 13/10/2009 03:36:14 »
I'm pretty sure it's a Fiat. Take a closer look.

Of course, it would be a lot less beaten up if you had not put it in the Monte-Carlo Rally.
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« Reply #38 on: 13/10/2009 20:55:33 »
I'm pretty sure it's a Fiat. Take a closer look.

Of course, it would be a lot less beaten up if you had not put it in the Monte-Carlo Rally.
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