[jccc]

Most certainly EM and gravitation are related. Both of them are distributed through the same space and obey inverse-square law. Even child can tell that they are somehow related 


But informatons... nah.. I'm more like a ether believer  8D

you are right on. gravity is em force. see http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=54194.0

[ernst39 (OP)]

you are right on. gravity is em force

There is a formal analogy between the gravito-electromagnetic (GEM) description of gravitation and the mathematical description of the electromagnetic (EM) phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism [nofollow]).
In the article "Fundamentals of the Theory of Informatons" (reply #30) it is shown that this analogy perfectly can be explained by the hypothesis that any material object manifests its substantiality (its physical presence) by the emission - at a  rate proportional to its rest mass - of granular  mass and energy less entities rushing away with the speed of light and carrying information about the position, the velocity and the electrical status of their emitter.  Because they carry nothing but information we call this entities "informatons". 
In the frame of that hypothesis gravitational and electromagnetic fields are understood as the macroscopic manifestations of the attributes of the informatons,  and the laws of GEM and Maxwell can be deduced from the kinematics of the informatons.

[ernst39 (OP)]

There is a new version of the article "Gravitoelectromagnetism explained by the theory of informatons" on Research Gate.  (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301891607_GRAVITO-ELECTROMAGNETISM_EXPLAINED_BY_THE_THEORY_OF_INFORMATONS-2 [nofollow])

[sandgroper]

There is a new version of the article "Gravitoelectromagnetism explained by the theory of informatons" on Research Gate. 

I know this is an old thread but...

Gravity is related to mass, space and time. This ought to be a no brainer. Gravity is an acceleration. Gravity is a relative disparity in time and space between two masses. There is no electo-magnetism involved in gravity. The compelling or motivating force in gravity is a effective time disparity created in space by two comparative masses occupying it. Time itself is a vector (or tensor if you prefer) property of mass whose direction points to the centre of mass. This is also a no brainer.

I dont understand why people labour over this. If you need it explained to you, read all about it here --> plus google com/collection/8a4JU

[ernst39 (OP)]

There is no electo-magnetism involved in gravity

"Gravitomagnetism is a widely used term referring specifically to the kinetic effects of gravity, in analogy to the magnetic effects of moving electric charge."  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism [nofollow]). 

This doesn't mean that electromagnetism is involved in gravity!

[ernst39 (OP)]

On gravitoelectromagnetism

Gravitoelectromagnetism (GEM) is developed  in the context of classical physics (by O. Heaviside and others).   It widens the scope of Newtonian gravitation by taking into account the kinetics of the gravitating objects.  It is a classical field theory in whose context the “principle of equivalence” and the “principle of  relativity” are valid.

     1. The gravitational field  is set up by a given distribution of - whether or not moving - masses and it is - just like the electromagnetic field - defined by two three-dimensional  intertwined vector fields :  the “g-field”  E_g   and the “g-induction”  B_g . In the context of GEM  the gravitational field (E_g, B_g) is mathematically described by a set of four partial differential equations, the “GEM-equations” (or the “Maxwell-Heaviside equations”) that describe how  E_g    and B_g vary in space due to their sources - the masses and the mass flows - and how they are intertwined.  These equations are invariant under a Lorentztransformation.  The GEM equations nor their solutions indicate an existence of causal links between g-fields and g-induction fields. Therefore, we must conclude that a gravitational  field is a dual entity always having a g- and a b-component simultaneously created by their common sources: time-variable masses and mass flows.

     2. The gravitational field  (E_g, B_g) acts on a particle  in it.  This shows up in a force  F_G   that that particle (with rest mass m₀ and velocity v) experiences: F_G = m₀.[E_g  +  (v x B_g)].  This “force law of GEM” is analog to Lorentz force law.

The starting point of GEM differs fundamentally from the starting point of GRT, because space and time doesn't play an acitve role in the description by GEM of the gravitational phenomena and laws.  In the context of GEM,space and time are elements of the description of nature that do not participate in the physical processes.

It has been shown that certain concrete predictions made on the basis of the gravito-electromagnetic description of gravity are perfectly in line with the results of cosmological observations.


References:


1. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328582899_The_Maxwell-Heaviside_equations
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2. Antoine Acke:  GRAVITATION EXPLAINED BY GRAVITOELECTROMAGNETISM. (ISBN/ 978-613-9-93065-4)