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« on: 21/11/2009 12:25:32 »
Winners versus Losers

The Winner is always a part of the answer;
The Loser is always a part of the problem.

The Winner always has a program;
The Loser always has an excuse.

The Winner says, "Let me do it for you;"
The Loser says, "That's not my job."


The Winner sees an answer for every problem;
The Loser sees a problem in every answer.

The Winner says, "It may be difficult but it's possible;"
The Loser says, "It may be possible but it's too difficult."

I found this on the internet and I posted this up on my forum a short time ago. I thought it was interesting.  Personally I can see the winner and loser in myself in the way I react to stuff. 

Do you find this to be true to your experience with yourself and others?

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« Reply #1 on: 21/11/2009 12:30:45 »
yes of course Hadrian!!!!!

 [:(] [:(] [:(]you made omid feel loser  [:-'(] [:-'(] [:-'(]

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« Reply #2 on: 21/11/2009 17:00:55 »
yes of course Hadrian!!!!!

 [:(] [:(] [:(]you made omid feel loser  [:-'(] [:-'(] [:-'(]

no omid i can make you fell anything only you can do that as they are your feelings.

so why do you chose to fell a loser?

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« Reply #3 on: 21/11/2009 17:04:47 »
no omid i can make you fell anything only you can do that as they are your feelings.

so why do you chose to fell a loser?

unfortunately the qualities you mentioned for a loser in your first post matched omid [:-'(]
« Last Edit: 21/11/2009 17:08:00 by omid »

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« Reply #4 on: 21/11/2009 17:16:49 »
They are not qualities they are choices.

we can all change the way we chose to react.
it may take a little time and that dose not mean we have to give up.

just being aware that the way we react is not helping us is the big step forward yes?

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« Reply #5 on: 21/11/2009 17:19:19 »
They are not qualities they are choices.

we can all change the way we chose to react.
it may take a little time and that dose not mean we have to give up.

just being aware that the way we react is not helping us is the big step forward yes?

But still omid think omid a loser [:(]

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« Reply #6 on: 21/11/2009 17:21:15 »
so what would hapen if you did not think that?

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« Reply #7 on: 21/11/2009 17:29:57 »
so what would hapen if you did not think that?

if omid wouldn't think like that, omid'd be a liar then

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« Reply #8 on: 21/11/2009 17:42:46 »
It sound like you have invested a lot of energy in being loser you must be very successful at it. 
I can see why you might not wish to choose to be anything else. 
Being unsuccessful at absolutely everything is very hard to achieve. I
 am impressed.  Well done.  [:)]   

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« Reply #9 on: 21/11/2009 17:43:53 »
It sound like you have invested a lot of energy in being loser you must be very successful at it. 
I can see why you might not wish to choose to be anything else. 
Being unsuccessful at absolutely everything is very hard to achieve. I
 am impressed.  Well done.  [:)]   

are you making fun of omid?

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« Reply #10 on: 21/11/2009 17:50:23 »
I can say i am not(and i am not) but you wont believe me will you?

if you like being loser then who am i do say otherwise?

bottom line is, what ever way you think you are then that's the way you are.
think you are loser and soon you will behave like one.

change the way you think, its your choice.

its up to you.

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« Reply #11 on: 21/11/2009 17:52:36 »
I can say i am not(and i am not) but you wont believe me will you?

if you like being loser then who am i do say otherwise?

bottom line is, what ever way you think you are then that's the way you are.
think you are loser and soon you will behave like one.

change the way you think, its your choice.

its up to you.

Look omid doesn't mean loser the way you think
omid is the best grade achiever in the whole college, omid very good in making friends, omid have always succeeded in whatever omid've done so far but omid still think omid loser in some other way may be

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« Reply #12 on: 21/11/2009 18:03:10 »
well now that's intresting in it not.  [:)]

well perhaps if you take a look at one of thouse areas where you feel less successful and apply the same effort and attitude as you do to areas where you are successful things might change.

you are anyting but a loser in 99% of your life so don't label yourself or think of you self based on the 1% or 2%  (OK lets not get stuck on percentages)



 
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« Reply #13 on: 21/11/2009 18:07:00 »
well now that's intresting in it not.  [:)]

well perhaps if you take a look at one of thouse areas where you feel less successful and apply the same effort and attitude as you do to areas where you are successful things might change.

you are anyting but a loser in 99% of your life so don't label yourself or think of you self based on the 1% or 2%  (OK lets not get stuck on percentages)

omid think omid bad girls thats the point where omid feels loser
« Last Edit: 21/11/2009 18:14:36 by omid »

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« Reply #14 on: 21/11/2009 18:19:05 »
Making friends with people and having intimate relationships with others requires skill.  Some people have a lot of natural ability at this others have to learn it.  Itís not unlike selling except you are marketing yourself.  Do be good at this you have to build trust.  Rapport is key. Rapport Rapport Rapport. Maybe lower you expectations a little at first.  Perhaps set out to simply enjoy the company of others. Like selling it gets harder if you are desperate.     
« Last Edit: 21/11/2009 18:21:20 by Hadrian »

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« Reply #15 on: 21/11/2009 18:21:11 »
Making friends with people and having intimate relationships with others requires skill.  Some people have a lot of natural ability at this others have to learn it.  Itís not unlike selling except you are marketing yourself.  Do be good at this you have to build trust.  Rapport is key. Rapport Rapport Rapport. Maybe lower you expectations a little at first.  Perhaps set out to simply enjoy the company of others. Like selling it get harder if you are desperate.     

Sorry Hadrian
But omid couldn't even catch a word of the text above [:-\]

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« Reply #16 on: 21/11/2009 18:25:47 »
OK try to learn about Rapport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapport


if you master rapport you will be successfull with girls too

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« Reply #17 on: 21/11/2009 18:27:27 »
OK try to learn about Rapport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapport


if you master rapport you will be successfull with girls too

Hadrian!

omid is very good in intracting with people, omid got like hundreds of friends
its just omid feels that omid bad girl

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« Reply #18 on: 21/11/2009 18:28:56 »
then you are not building rapport with them even if you think you are.

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« Reply #19 on: 21/11/2009 18:30:38 »
then you are not building rapport with them even if you think you are.

omid's friends love omid its just omid can't stay with one person(girls only) for long

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« Reply #20 on: 21/11/2009 18:38:37 »
Omid you can get help to sort out why this happening.  There will be an answer and a way to sort it out.  In my experience the answer is always something simple even if we believe itís a complicated problem. 

It was Einstein who said the madness was doing the same things a expecting a different result.  So whatever you do, do something different get some help.  We all deserve to be happy.   

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« Reply #21 on: 21/11/2009 18:39:45 »
Omid you can get help to sort out why this happening.  There will be an answer and a way to sort it out.  In my experience the answer is always something simple even if we believe itís a complicated problem. 

It was Einstein who said the madness was doing the same things a expecting a different result.  So whatever you do, do something different get some help.  We all deserve to be happy.  


are you calling omid MAD indirectly? [:(]

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« Reply #22 on: 21/11/2009 18:44:07 »
NO!  if i thought you were mad i would say so directly.

perhaps your grasp of English is getting in the way.

healthy people get help for this sort of thing all the time it not about being mad its about finding happiness.

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« Reply #23 on: 21/11/2009 18:46:06 »
NO!  if i thought you were mad i would say so directly.

perhaps your grasp of English is getting in the way.

healthy people get help for this sort of thing all the time it not about being mad its about finding happiness.

what if omid say that omid is happy the way, omid getting fed up of people but not people getting fed up of omid

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« Reply #24 on: 21/11/2009 18:48:06 »
Maybe you need to find someone with the same values as you hold. 

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« Reply #25 on: 21/11/2009 18:48:59 »
Maybe you need to find someone with the same values as you hold. 

you want omid to get hurt by someone?

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« Reply #26 on: 21/11/2009 18:53:03 »
Again you misunderstand. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Values

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« Reply #27 on: 21/11/2009 18:55:53 »
Again you misunderstand. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Values

what would you say if omid tells you that omid didn't misunderstood?

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« Reply #28 on: 21/11/2009 18:57:01 »
stop playing games............. maybe  [8D]

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« Reply #29 on: 21/11/2009 18:58:08 »
stop playing games............. maybe  [8D]

do you really think omid playing Games?

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« Reply #30 on: 21/11/2009 18:59:28 »
how would i know if you were or not.  maybe i am  [:o]

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« Reply #31 on: 21/11/2009 19:00:56 »
how would i know if you were or not.  maybe i am  [:o]

you think omid useless girl???????????????

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« Reply #32 on: 21/11/2009 19:04:08 »
so will we start again?

how you think is how you are

change the way you think and you will change who you are. 

you chose

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« Reply #33 on: 21/11/2009 19:05:14 »
have to go now ...  need to eat  [:)]

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« Reply #34 on: 21/11/2009 19:05:32 »
so will we start again?

how you think is how you are

change the way you think and you will change who you are. 

you chose

But omid intrested to know what you think of omid
C'mon say it omid useless or not?
omid won't mind at all!!!!!!!!!!!! [;)]

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« Reply #35 on: 21/11/2009 19:06:04 »
have to go now ...  need to eat  [:)]

WE'll continue 2mrw

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« Reply #36 on: 21/11/2009 22:57:45 »
No human is useless. 

I would need at least 4 to 6 sessions in person, with you to be able to give you a professional opinion.   Since this is not possible I respectively suggest if you want help, find someone you can work with to help you.

Right now all we are doing is playing with words and I can not see the point in continuing to do so.  The language difficulties are two big between us and I do not want to risk being misunderstood by you again. 

Have a good day.
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« Reply #37 on: 22/11/2009 04:12:22 »
Winners versus Losers

The Winner is always a part of the answer;
The Loser is always a part of the problem.

The Winner always has a program;
The Loser always has an excuse.

The Winner says, "Let me do it for you;"
The Loser says, "That's not my job."


The Winner sees an answer for every problem;
The Loser sees a problem in every answer.

The Winner says, "It may be difficult but it's possible;"
The Loser says, "It may be possible but it's too difficult."

I found this on the internet and I posted this up on my forum a short time ago. I thought it was interesting.  Personally I can see the winner and loser in myself in the way I react to stuff. 

Do you find this to be true to your experience with yourself and others?

Yes, I am the one. I am the winner.

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« Reply #38 on: 22/11/2009 09:25:09 »
No human is useless. 

I would need at least 4 to 6 sessions in person, with you to be able to give you a professional opinion.   Since this is not possible I respectively suggest if you want help, find someone you can work with to help you.

Right now all we are doing is playing with words and I can not see the point in continuing to do so.  The language difficulties are two big between us and I do not want to risk being misunderstood by you again. 

Have a good day.


which of omid's posts say that omid need help? [???]

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« Reply #39 on: 22/11/2009 13:46:38 »
what help ?
I am good at solving peoples problems LOL.

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« Reply #40 on: 22/11/2009 16:15:44 »
so will we start again?

how you think is how you are

change the way you think and you will change who you are. 

you chose

But omid intrested to know what you think of omid
C'mon say it omid useless or not?
omid won't mind at all!!!!!!!!!!!! [;)]
Omid, omid , Omid ??
it's not important what people think of you.
it's important what you think your self.

it's important whether you love yourself or not.
or You may not be having confidence up on your self.

I was blamed by my teachers about my failures.
they used to treat me as kind of untouchable.
but I never gave up!
they used to call me as a dull student.
but now I am the one.. a winner.

You don't even have a clue How much I suffered.

everyone teacher of my school days think that I am useless.
but Now they will be surprised to know what I am capable of doing.

Why me ??
take example of Albert Einstein him self ..
his own teachers used to call him useless.
was he really useless ?
now whole world know is got Highest IQ.

you should be in India for some time than you might learn something.



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« Reply #41 on: 22/11/2009 16:24:37 »
so will we start again?

how you think is how you are

change the way you think and you will change who you are. 

you chose
I have far correct way to inspire people.
Why do you talk about having classes.
some people don't even know about themselves.
You should advice them to be lonely and ask them to have self introspection.
Self study !

Most of people like omid Can't allow them self to be lonely.
They will never study about them self.

Only once they find out them self they can be Pro.
 

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« Reply #42 on: 22/11/2009 16:27:16 »
No human is useless. 

I would need at least 4 to 6 sessions in person, with you to be able to give you a professional opinion.   Since this is not possible I respectively suggest if you want help, find someone you can work with to help you.

Right now all we are doing is playing with words and I can not see the point in continuing to do so.  The language difficulties are two big between us and I do not want to risk being misunderstood by you again. 

Have a good day.


which of omid's posts say that omid need help? [???]
Omid you got to trust your self.
You don't know what you are capable of .....

Sky is the limit if you believe your self ..

YOU MUST study your self.

You don't know what you can do.
you never studied about your self.
Never give up omid.
Wanna help ?

ask me.
SBC
SBZ.

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« Reply #43 on: 22/11/2009 16:29:44 »
No human is useless. 

I would need at least 4 to 6 sessions in person, with you to be able to give you a professional opinion.   Since this is not possible I respectively suggest if you want help, find someone you can work with to help you.

Right now all we are doing is playing with words and I can not see the point in continuing to do so.  The language difficulties are two big between us and I do not want to risk being misunderstood by you again. 

Have a good day.


which of omid's posts say that omid need help? [???]
Remember the Time I helped you when you need math help ??

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« Reply #44 on: 22/11/2009 16:32:05 »
you are correct omid you really need friend like me.
I am the only one cos I was really big failure.

i failed many times.
I have learned every motivational speeches from my loneliness.