Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?

  • 237 Replies
  • 634455 Views

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

*

Offline Aramatminn

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #100 on: 01/09/2007 18:26:08 »
I had a thunderclap headache a few weeks ago. Just as many described here
it felt like vice grip around my skull and ended up at the bottom back of my skull, it started at orgasm and lasted a minute or so after.  I went to the doctor a few days later and they did a CAT Scan and a exam, everything came backnormal.  I haven't had a TC headache since, but I sometimes awake with a stiff neck and wonder if it was from that expereince.Ill also get a tiny headsche behind my nose and eyes (very slight headache. But I would get a stiff neck before the TC headache because of the pillows and the way I sleep. Now Im just paranoid-I think. I'm debating on whether I should have the spinal tap done, fearing maybe the CAT scan missed something.

Im glad I found this forum so I can compare experiences.

*

Offline Terabriah

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #101 on: 18/10/2007 17:05:06 »
I also experience these headaches when I have an orgasm. The pain so severe that when I feel the warning sign of it coming on every time I try I am forced to stop. Basically, from a lot of research and talking with other people who have the same problem, the only cure is to stop having sex, stop masturbating, stop having orgasms altogether, for a week or long, it varies. This can be VERY difficult, I know, but it seems to work for everyone who has these problems.

*

Offline Terabriah

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #102 on: 19/10/2007 00:42:17 »
newbielink:http://healthgate.partners.org/browsing/browseContent.asp?fileName=14520.xml&title=Sexual%20Headaches:%20From%20Ecstasy%20to%20Agony [nonactive]
That website provides some good information.

Here is what I tried, this might not work for you:
If you are like me and cannot stop having sex for two to three weeks, then take two or three Excedrin Migraine about 40-60 minutes before intercourse. Then, although you will get shaky and perhaps even feel the need to vomit, you will NOT experience pain. I would still recommend, as I am, trying to avoid sex as much as you can, but for when you simply can't, and you feel the need, pop the pills and go at it. I hope this helps some of you, these headaches are pure AGONY, but hopefully through patience and the help of pain killers you can get through it. If not, and perhaps even if you can but it doesn't go away, SEE a doctor! This could be a sign of serious ailments, and if not their are still other options such as the shot previously mentioned or the medication mentioned in that article I linked above.

*

Offline Wildpats

  • First timers
  • *
  • 6
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #103 on: 19/10/2007 01:48:20 »
 Thanks but i need no help with headaches. There was just the one and my life is no longer fun because the bleeding from the burst anuerism has changed not only my sexual performance but every aspect of my physical, intellectual and emotional life. [:-'(] [:(]

*

Offline ReaperO

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #104 on: 23/10/2007 03:36:06 »
Found this site by google.  I experienced my first thunderclap migraine this past weekend. The first one lasted about an hour and a half before receeding to a tolerable pain, but I suffered from minor headaches till the following day., the second one hit 2 days later, both during climax, I went to the hospital got a scan, and turned out everything was fine.  I wanted to mention that after 12 hours of unbearable migraine pain in the back of my head and neck, not even morphine could dull the pain.  The doctor who diagnosed me mentioned that cat scan pick up about 90-95% of what they are looking for, basically 1 out of 20 people who get scanned could still have a problem and not know it.  He performed a procedure called a "Lumbar Puncture". What happens is they freeze an area of your back and take out spinal fluid and test for blood. I just thought I would share this with people, and maybe they could get the procedure done as a safety precaution. It only took a couple of minutes to perform and about 1-1&1/2 hours for results.  Hope this helps.

*

Offline Kush

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #105 on: 31/10/2007 21:07:27 »
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!POSSIBLE SOLUTION PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello everyone I am 24/M and just recently started working out a month ago at a local gym. I weigh 175 pounds and have a fairly average build.

Three days ago on doing HEAVY Squats where I lay on my back(a pulley system gym machine) and lift about 125 pounds, I found out that after the end of my set, the 2 lobes on each side on the back of my head started hurting like HELL, I got up and walked around and started taking deep breaths through the constant pain and drank some water. In about 3 minutes the MAJORITY OF PAIN went away and I finished the rest of my session of 15 mins more of strength training without any incident. However a lingering pain remained. On reaching home I goggled the symptoms and found MANY MANY MANY WEBSITES describing these headaches/pain affecting MANY MANY people regardless of age and gender.

My first thought was that since I OVER was exerting myself, my blood pressure must have gotten high through the weeks of intense physical training, but on testing my BP after going to my Doctor everything was normal. At the moment my doctor has told me to monitor my BP 3 times a day for a week. and check with him next week Tuesday.

On the 2nd day after I found this website. I tried to masturbate and see if everyones story checks out and yes on the verge of orgasm I had the EXACT PAIN that I felt after the workout on the heavy squat machine. I tried other methods to induce the headaches and found on doing Pushups gave me the SAME PAIN after about 15 reps. Also on Jogging for more then 3 mins resulted in the same PAIN (at the back 2 lobes of my head). Basically ANY sort of exertion in which my heard rate got higher then 130 bips/min.

SOLUTION THAT WORKED FOR ME (COULD be a temporary thing)

Now I visited a Chiropractor clinic that works out of my GYM. On further scanning my spinal cord with an instrument the Chiropractor found intense inflammation at the back of my neck area near the 1st, 2nd and 3rd vertebrate that are localized in between my skull and my neck. The Chiropractor told me that MANY people due lack of proper posture while sitting or sleeping miss-align their vertebrates(this happens over a LONG period of time) which result in a minuscule pinch of nerves that connects your brain to the rest of you body through the spinal chord. This setting will not affect anything when the blood flow is normal, but when the heart rate increases at times during physical exertion or near an instance of achieving an Orgasm, as the blood flow increases, we will feel the pinch of nerves. Even a minor and minuscule pinch could result in intense pain and depending on nerves that are being pinched. Also EVERY SINGLE person will feel pain in a different part of their brain.

After just a single day of realigning my neck area (a very simple procedure, takes a minute with the chiropractor). I felt almost NO pain during my cardio workout. And after the 2nd day of realignment I was BACK to my normal self. I tried Cardio, my regular strength training program and masturbation. I felt NO PAIN during any of these activities.

THIS WORKED FOR ME IT. I HOPE IT WORKS FOR ANONE AND EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM. Best of LUCK

P.S. I would still suggest going for an MRI,CAT,MRA etc scans as your doctors recommend. But if those come Clean by ALL means go to a Chiropractor!

*

Offline Oneeyedguy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 15
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #106 on: 04/12/2007 13:22:45 »
I'm sure you're onto something, Kush. From what I've been reading, orgasm headaches probably  have several different causes - but the back and particularly neck tension theory certainly matches up with my experience.

I'm 46, bit overweight (15 stone = 210 lb), I had my first, appalling, orgasm headache about  8 months ago, a few weeks after coming out of hospital for an abdominal hernia repair op. At first, I put it down to - completely unscientific - 'it's too soon after the op to start sex (or, in this instance, masturbation) again.' But they continued - since then I've had maybe 10 or 12 orgasms and every time except twice, more or less the same intensity of headache. The first pain-free time was after about 2 or 3 months when I realised I'd been getting very tensed up 'trying to come', so I deliberately relaxed myself as much as I could, and spent a long time over it, not allowing myself to get too hyped up! I thought I'd cracked it - but no.

After a lot of thought, and web browsing, I had to admit to myself that my problem had actually begun to show up before the op - but then this was the 4th in a series of hernia repairs (previous ones failed, the latest is holding up touch wood) which have - although I've been slow to realise this - left my abdo muscles in a right old state. I'd already been getting lower back pain, this was added to about 2-3 years ago by upper back/shoulder/neck tension (though not, at that stage, headaches - I've never suffered, certainly no history of migraine, and my BP is normal), which I put down to too much PC use at work - which is true. All in all, the last 7-8 years have been a picture of gradually worsening back trouble largely hidden, I think, because until the last - successful - op I'd been spending a lot of time 'having a lie down' because the hernia was painful, or was 'giving me a bad back'.

Now that I'm up and about again, the back problems are really coming home to roost. My back and neck had got, I believe, really weak over the years and now I'm paying the price. Having said all that, I'm not ready to give up on sex completely. I may be 46 - and 3 kids can have a pretty serious effect on your sex life! - but GPs who say 'it's nothing to worry about' need yelling at, IMHO. Oh, nothing to worry about - just the end of your sex life in a blaze of head-mashing pain. Take some ibuprofen.

Onto possible solutions - I've taken up Pilates, cos I know my core strength is really depleted. I am utterly amazed at how inflexible my body has become - and an osteopath described my shoulders and neck as 'like a rock'. It's incredible, the amount of tension you can carry about before you become aware of it. It's no magic cure - I've only been at it about 6 weeks - but recently, I was desperate to have an orgasm - let's face it, it builds up - and decided to try masturbating after doing about 15 minutes of upper-body, shoulder and neck-focused Pilates exercises. I can hear my neck creaking and crunching as I do them. Well, it wasn't pain-free: but whereas previously the headache was 100% pain, like all your toothaches come at once, behind the eyes, in the roof of your mouth, this time it was maybe 30%. Sort of an ordinary, perfectly manageable headache. Yes, I could feel it approach as I approached orgasm (as before). But it didn't utterly ruin the experience, in fact it was the first orgasm I've enjoyed for about 6 months. Now if 6 weeks of exercise can do that...

So, Kush, I'm off to find myself a decent chiropractor I think - maybe look into head massage. And the Pilates continues; for anyone who hasn't tried it, it's really nice - no straining, slow, deliberate, focused, and safe because your body is always protected by positioning - you lie down a lot! For me, I'm convinced it's a neck tension/nerve issue - and, as Pilates teaches you, your entire spine and pelvis are one big system, you can't isolate just one part. I'll post again as soon as I've any news - please do the same, if there's anything we need it's hope!!

*

Offline imre1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • 96
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #107 on: 05/12/2007 12:53:01 »
I am wondering:

Has any of you ever experienced orgasmic headaches that did not come with a thunder clap.

It is this lack of thunder clap that made me believe that from all the cases (1, 2, 3) I seem to be recurrently suffering from type 4.

Actually a sex induced migraine, lasting for days, without the thunderclap.

*

Offline imre1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • 96
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #108 on: 05/12/2007 12:57:53 »
Anyway, if this too is a standard orgasmic headache. I concur with Oneeyedguy. Doing physical excercies prior to orgasm seriously reduces the symptoms. I noticed this too when I came back from power training some days back.

Also you could incorporate physical excercises into masturbation. by repeatedly going to the point of no return and then stopping to do something else.

*

Offline edwinh

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #109 on: 17/12/2007 01:43:36 »
I'm 51, male, and just had my first one of these.  I jumped on google, read a bunch of articles about it and found this site.  The discussions here have been helpful.  I had the explosive onset type just at orgasm.   It lasted a few minutes, and found it excruciating for the first minute or two.

I was definitely not in a relaxed state.  Every now and then I enjoy a particularly intense orgasm where my whole body is tensed and my breathing somewhat restrained.   I'm not as athletic as I used to be, but I do play some pretty high intensity basketball, mostly with younger men, two or three times a week, and am a little surprised to get any kind of exertion-related headache.  I'll get this checked out to rule out aneurysm, but at this point I'm guessing it was one of the exertion-related headaches.   Life has been stressful the past several weeks, and for the past week I haven't slept more than four hours at a stretch.  Coupled with the physical stress associated with the position and my breathing, I can just about guarantee my blood pressure was very high.  However, nothing I haven't been doing semi-routinely for most of my life.

It makes a lot of sense now, but it still caught me quite by surprise.  I will get it checked out tomorrow though.


*

Offline eurochic

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #110 on: 17/12/2007 15:16:28 »
I had the misfortune to experience my first 'orgasm/thunderclap' headache 3 days ago while alone at home [:I]and for a few seconds i thought "this is it-i'm going to die with my rabbit in my hand!"  [::)]  It felt as though someone had smashed me at the base of my skull with a crowbar, then the pain spread to my temples and finally the top of my head. It passed within a couple of minutes and i carried on as normal. Perhaps i've just felt a bit spaced out over the weekend if anything, fully expecting a migraine to follow (as i suffer them) but no. It has really shook me up though.
I love masturbating  [:X] and to think i may not be able to enjoy it again without that happening is scary!
Of course i 'googled' it immediately and decided to go see my GP today. I have a CT scan and an echo on my neck (Carotid artery) tomorrow, so will let you know what transpires.  [:)]

*

Offline edwinh

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #111 on: 18/12/2007 01:14:07 »
I went to the doctor, and he ruled out stroke, said it was the benign variety.  I had no nausea, and it disappeared in a few minutes, which are key signatures of the benign variety.  He checked a few other things like my eyes, but was confident it was not an aneurysm. 

It's a strange physiological phenomena... I hope it doesn't happen again.  It did help me decide to take my borderline-high blood pressure seriously, and start taking blood pressure drugs.  I don't want to stroke out anytime soon!


*

Offline Oneeyedguy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 15
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #112 on: 20/12/2007 15:40:44 »
Going for an MRA early in January - my GP practice seems to have woken up and taken this a bit more seriously. I'm in a group practice so don't often see same person twice in a row. New GP - very keen - referred me to neurology to get the super-scary aneurysm / tumours / etc causes ruled out. I'll let you know how it went.

*

Offline barnabusb

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #113 on: 06/01/2008 04:43:18 »
Man, I just had one of these the other day so I've been Googling it to see what's out there.  Mine came right at the moment of orgasm, and it felt like my head was going to explode.  I was actually pressing on the side and back of my head because it felt like it was ready to burst.  I can pretty confidently say that's the most pain I have ever felt in my entire life.  It lasted for about 2 minutes and then the stabbing pains were gone and I was left with a dull, throbbing ache that went all throughout my skull and down the back of my neck.  Went to the hospital the next day, they admitted me right away, and I opted for a spinal tap.  It came back negative but I'm still dealing with a low ache in my head.  It started to go away the other night, actually, but I played some video games and it came back!  How much does that suck?  I'm going to my family doctor for a follow-up and hopefully a CT scan just to be 100% sure there isn't anything brewing up there...  It's interesting to see posts from others who experience the same thing, though.  It's pretty scary stuff.

Edited to add:  I guess I'll throw some personal info out there for those keeping score.  Male, 28 years old.  No sinus problems or history of headaches or anything similar.
« Last Edit: 06/01/2008 04:53:42 by barnabusb »

*

Offline Jkr

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #114 on: 09/01/2008 08:55:21 »
Reading through completely on this after experiencing a terribly severe version, it would appear that the tension of holding your breath, raising blood pressure and previous injury on neck or posture at the time would appear to be the main culprit age doesn't seem relevant as I'm 67 and they have only happened in the last couple of years however there are various reports of youngsters.  It is a terrible frightening experience, the worst being that your partner doesn't realise how totally unbearable and frightening it is.

*

Offline Mark l D

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 10
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #115 on: 10/01/2008 04:23:35 »
I respectfully disagree.
What is being described is a time when the neck is under pressure anyway.
At this time, the added pressure of the sex experience causes a joint to be under such physical stress that the body goes into "defence mode" ... and when it is in such a mode, it will tighten up to prevent injury through further movement.

Such a defence mode has three stages ... one is that things loosen immediately and all you have to do is deal with the effects of the sudden muscle response ...
The second is the three day rule - that is the body keeps itself locked up for 60 - 72 hours to allow things to recover. The third stage is "permanent mode" which implies the joint is not released and the body has to learn to adapt to cope with the slight loss of function.

Sex and the orgasm is only the TRIGGER point.
The issue is that the body is already in a posture which supplies stress to the neck, and this sets it over the edge.

After you deal with the crisis - you have to deal with the underlying issue.

Try this - a long term, simple idea.
I have purchased a double sized tennis ball. They are designed as a pet toy and are cheap to buy. Alternatively a rolled up towel will do as well.

Lie down on you back. Place tennis ball or rolled up towel under the neck.
Notice that the neck is now fully supported on this.
Relax as much as you can, knowing that the neck is fully supported.
Now massage down the sides of the neck ... GENTLY and concentrate on relaxing.

Stop for a few moments, and still with your neck supported, gently move the head and the neck from side to side ... slow, gentle and very small movements.
again twist the head slightly to one shoulder, then the other. Then relax again for a few minutes, then remove the ball/towel and relax for another minute.

Do this two to three times a week - it takes months to work as you are not treating the joint, you are training the brain that it is OK to relax and move the muscles of the neck.

« Last Edit: 10/01/2008 06:56:44 by Mark l D »

*

paul.fr

  • Guest
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #116 on: 10/01/2008 09:00:33 »
Not sure if this is relevant, but it may be worth reading and following up on.

Scientists have found that men are more likely than women to be telling the truth if they say: "Not tonight darling, I've got a headache".
A team of German researchers has begun to investigate the phenomenon of sexual headaches - a condition known as Orgasmic Cephalgia.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2367201.stm

We found that the vast majority of patients suffered from an explosive and very severe headache starting suddenly around the orgasm
 
Dr Achim Frese 
They have discovered that it is three times more likely to strike men.

The headaches usually come on suddenly around the point of orgasm, and can be very severe.

The researchers believe the condition affects around one in a 100 people at least once during a lifetime, but some people are afflicted on a regular basis.

Although the precise causes are not yet understood, it is thought that the condition may be linked to the increased blood flow and dilation of blood vessels that occur during sex.

The German team is carrying out research aimed at solving the mystery.

They stress that people do not develop the condition as a result of particular partners or sexual habits. Neither is it linked to any form of brain damage or disease.

It is most common among young people, and is most likely to strike for the first time between the ages of 20 and 25.

Researchers Dr Achim Frese and Dr Stefan Evers, from the University of Munster, examined patients who had complained of sexual headaches.

Severe pain

Dr Frese, who presented preliminary results from the study at a meeting of the European Federation of Neurological Societies in Vienna, said: "We found that the vast majority of patients suffered from an explosive and very severe headache starting suddenly around the orgasm.

"The others suffered from a dull headache with the pain increasing more gradually before the orgasm."

In most cases the headaches appeared during intercourse with a regular partner, or while masturbating.

Dr Frese said; "About half of the patients had realised that they could avoid some of the headache attacks by intensifying the sexual excitement more gradually."

Some patients were prescribed preventative treatment such as beta-blockers - drugs given to migraine sufferers - or the pain killer indomethacin.

Typically, sexual headaches appeared in bouts of a few weeks duration and resolved themselves spontaneously. Most patients had only one bout while others had two or three.

  See also:


27 Jul 99 | Health
Migraine wrecks sex for millions

04 Sep 02 | Health
Family doctors get headache tips

19 Mar 02 | Health
The secret of successful sex

Internet links:


Sexual headache
European Federation of Neurological Societies
University of Munster


*

Offline dragon

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #117 on: 12/01/2008 06:21:02 »
Hi all,
Here is my little story.  35, male, and happy I am not alone though I wish none of us would have that.

I have suffered a major headache somewhere around dec 27.  The pain was overbearing.  It was located in the back of the head.  I suffered a few hours before falling asleep.  When I woke up, I was a bit better, with a lesser headache.
12 hours later, I suffered a second thunderclap.  Same thing, it went away when falling asleep, but it was more severe.   
2 days later, dec 31, a suffered the 3rd one.  My wife took me to the hospital.  They quickly put me in bed.  They gave me some morphine like pills (dilaudil).
They took a scan of my head.  It was getting dangerous, so they acted quickly.  Nothing showed on the scan.  They did a lumbar punction, took some liquid from my spine.  There was blood in it, so that could mean my head was filling with blood.

They sent me by ambulance to the Neurologic institute.  There, they rescanned me, did an angiogram (they inserted liquid to color my head, from my groin to my brain, very unpleasant).  It appears there are no damage to my brain.  They let me go as the pain lessened with the pills.

Four days later (jan 4) I am not feeling any better.  Normal headache.  I have strain in my neck.  They have no idea what to do to help me.

So I went to see a chiropractician.  Where usual medecine fails, maybe an alternative can help.  He cracked my bones, telling me my jaw was misplaced (how could he have known?  I suffered a hit on my jaw playing hockey 4 weeks ago), and that was unbalancing my occiput (a bone of some sort in my neck). 

My condition was getting a bit better, but every little effort brings back the headache... like going to the bathroom... sitting on the can is now a frightening experience, where I  must control my breath.

This is ruining my life for 2 weeks now, I monitor my blood pressure, cause I feel it is related.  I see the chiro every 3 days, am going to see an osteopath next tuesday.  Hope they find what is wrong with me, I cannot live a normal life with the fear the thunderclap coming back to torment me.  The pain is always located in the back of my head, just above the neck.

Last night, had a nightmare, guess what.... I woke up with a thunderclap.  Now I'm afraid to go to sleep.

Am taking amitryptiline, which is supposed to help, but only in a few weeks will I see some changes.

I will let you know if anything works.  Sorry if it's a bit gibberish, I am experiencing confusion lately.
« Last Edit: 12/01/2008 06:27:47 by dragon »

*

Offline dragon

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #118 on: 29/01/2008 19:03:48 »
I might give you an update.  After several weeks of pain, the TC (thunderclaps) have lessened.  The chiropractor and osteopath have done a good job replacing vertebraes and muscles that were misplaced or weakened.  My jaw, as it turned out, was unbalanced, missing two teeth in the left and one too many on the right side.  Added to the fact that i chew on the left side (I'm right handed) the strain on the left side of my head is greater than on the right side.
Now I chew on the right side, eventually i'll try to balance that.  I'll try to get the one tooth too many on the right taken out, and I'll fill one hole in the left side of my mouth to balance everything.
I am taking walks daily now, and concentrate on sitting up rigth.  I have also changed pillows, the chiropractor says a smaller pillow would help.
I am still taking amitryptyline to prevent TC.
I still have headaches daily, but no TC. 
I will post something in the future to keep everyone informed.


*

Offline Oneeyedguy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 15
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #119 on: 24/02/2008 23:04:01 »
Update: since my last post I've been back to my GP several times, he at least seems to be taking it a bit more seriously - he referred me to the neurology dept of my local hospital. I have had some pretty bad times at this particular place, so I tried to opt for a different hospital, but the appointment ended up at the local one anyway.

The doctor I saw there was absolutely awful; I don't think I've ever had a worse consultation, and I've had a few, with a recurrent hernia problem and other stuff. He listened to me for perhaps 20 seconds, and started telling me that I didn't have a problem, that sex headaches weren't a problem anyway, that they don't last. When I asked how he knew they didn't last, he said he'd seen 'a lot of these cases' and he never saw anybody come back, so they must be OK. I thought, yeah mate, they wouldn't come back to YOU. He said there was nothing he could do, had I tried paracetamol? I'm not making this up, I wish I was. I asked him to try to understand how this felt to me - i.e. all sexual activity at an abrupt end. He just repeated that it was nothing for me to worry about, and it would go away. I really wanted to believe him, I can tell you. None of this was said with any concern, any sympathy, it was just, you think you're ill, but I'm telling you you're not.

In the end, I thought, all I want out of this guy is a scan to rule out tumours, aneurysms, AVMs. He told me there'd be nothing, but I insisted and he eventually agreed to a scan.

Had the scan earlier this month, it turned out to be a CT scan rather than MRA, not too sure how much difference that makes. Got results 2 days ago, doc was right - no abnormalities showed up which is a big relief, so I'm now left with the question of what to do. I'm more than ever convinced it's all rooted in the neck/base of skull region. I've been skint since Christmas so haven't been to osteopath (40 a go). Neck and shoulders tight as anything, I can hear them creaking and crunching. Only tried sex once since last post, it was disastrous, huge headache well before approaching orgasm. Despite trying not to exert myself too much, I ended up getting quite physical - and that's what brought the headache on, ie NOT orgasm because I didn't really approach it. So my heart was beating really strongly and I was really turned on, erection, everything - but the effort I was putting in brought the roof down - so it's true, I think at least in my case, about sex headaches being a variant of exertion headaches.

I can't help thinking that, although various types of headache are discussed on medical websites - sexual, exertional, cervicogenic - it's all one syndrome in reality. I think I've got shoulder and neck problems brought on by poor posture and too much computer use, that have either caused disc problems at the top of my spine and/or tightened up the neck muscles a lot, and it's compressing a nerve, or somehow giving it less than the usual amount of space. During exertion, the dilation of blood vessels in that area is the final straw, squeezing the nerve and causing the pain. This is kind of what Mark I D is saying, I think - and I tend to agree. I don't really know, I'm guessing and would so much like to see somebody who actually a) sympathizes and b) knows what they're on about.

I've got no proof, and I want my osteopath to see the CT scans - the hospital are being incredibly unhelpful about that - to check this out, I dunno if they can find anything though. At the end of the day, only exercise and osteo offer any relief - and I have to pay for both. Pilates and osteopathy were costing me 80 a month before Xmas, so much for the NHS. I've been referred to NHS physiotherapy and they don't lay a finger on you, just check your range of movement and give you a mild ticking off about poor posture.

I'm beginning to think I need to get right away from any computer for a couple of years, but my job - like so many these days - is dependent on PC use. I try like mad to get my posture right, but it doesn't seem to help, I guess once you're getting a lot of pain it'll take more than that to stop it.

So - I'm rattling with ibuprofen, cos if I don't take em, I get a low-level headache all day long most days, and I can't concentrate. It's back to the osteopath as soon as I can afford it, it's back to my GP to persuade him to refer me on the NHS, but the GP's attitude to osteopathy is really, really bad - they just look at you down their nose, and pretend not to know what it is. My GP actually said - when I mentioned osteo - oh, are they the ones who try and reset your vertebrae? I said no, that's chiropractors - but he was misunderstanding on purpose, I reckon. When I told my osteopath, he said he wasn't in the least surprised - most GPs seem to think osteopathy has the same level of medical efficacy as dancing naked in the light of the full moon. It really hacks me off, next time I go to my GP I'm very likely to say, well what are you 'conventional' doctors doing for me? Osteopathy SO isn't 'alternative' - and what if it was? It works - that's why I pay.

I'm nervous about chiro, having read nightmares of people getting carotid artery damage and strokes. But I reckon that's my next step. I have to admit, though, that I'm not doing the Pilates exercises regularly, cos I get disheartened by the whole deal. My wife's convinced it'll just go away, but I can't share her optimism. So after reading the other posts on here - it SO helps to read what others are doing - I reckon exercise is the right road to go down, maybe the only road. I'm going to get as much massage as possible to really try and loosen up my shoulders and neck, which are just so tight right now, really get disciplined on the Pilates, and just do what I can, because I'm not prepared to see sex slip away from me.



*

Offline dompech

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #120 on: 26/02/2008 21:16:19 »
I too have had these headaches.
My first was at the point of ejaculation.It was as awful as described by others with the feeling of my brain trying to exit via the base of my skull.The dull throb or aftershock lasted for 30 minutes after.My next episode came in the gym whilst doing warmup exercises.So this was NOT during a moment of intense hightenened breathing or hightened heart rate.I did not continue with my work out but stopped before anything bad happened.I had a further headache 3 weeks later during sex again this time i went to the doctor who sent me to the hospital.I had a scan and a lumbar puncture which both came back clear.The resident neurologist took interest and finally came back with the thunderclap theory.
A change of lifestyle was what it took to stop these episodes.No more gym a different girlfriend and generally taking life at a different pace.
On a note i did have smaller headaches whilst at secondary school after running long distance races.

*

Offline Oneeyedguy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 15
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #121 on: 20/03/2008 17:17:50 »
Update: been back to osteopath, he's done ultrasound & acupuncture on my neck - some improvement in general headacheyness. Been doing my own exercises more: especially head rotations, side-to-side stuff etc, all helping to ease my neck & shoulders.

BUT - no improvement in the crucial area. Tried masturbating, was hoping for improvement because my neck and shoulders were feeling better - but no. Same old big headache, and I waited for it to slowly wear off, which usually takes anywhere between 10 minutes and several hours. I tried massaging area just in front of my ears - result! It immediately began to ease the pain, and after just 1 min the pain had practically gone.

OK, it's not a cure - but it's surely a big signpost to where the problem is. I've been checking out stuff on the trigeminal nerve (cos that innervates the areas where I get pain) and it has a big ganglion in exactly that area. And I've been wondering whether this isn't a TMJ problem - temporo-mandibular joint. In other words, jaw misplaced. I had a whack on the head maybe 2-3 years ago and I was convinced then that it had altered my bite.

More when I find it out. Could it be specs?

*

Offline decolady

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #122 on: 20/03/2008 23:52:07 »
oh you lot are amazing!!!! thankyou all so much for what you write..i have just got back together with someone after 10 very traumatic weeks apart,and EVERY time i have had an orgasm (5 times in 2 meetings) this pain has been unbearable.it is like someone putting your head in a vice and turning it...about 30 seconds before climax,i feel the pain start,and the trouble is,a) i want the orgasm,b) i don't want to frighten the boyfriend,so i carry on...i then climax but am holding my head and can't do anything else for ages...4 hours after the last time this has happened,and i am now sitting writing here,with just a dull throb in my head,but the pain at the time is excruciating..now i wonder how much is due to the anticipation..ie before we split i never had this,how much could be psychological..and potentially is something underlying?like most others on here,first time i thought my head was going to explode...thankyou to you all for your sensible words..and eve hanks to the unsensible ones that made me smile!i'm not so scared now,but i am going to get this checked out.for the stats,am 46,overweight and in love lol!love hurts right?! x

*

Offline taffywilliams

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #123 on: 17/04/2008 10:08:39 »
Hi Guys - I too have just had my first experience of an encruciating headache just prior to and during orgasm. This happened last night and was quite scarry, I felt like my head was about to explode.  I must say that I will feel a bit foolish going straight to my GP.  I may try being a bit more relaxed during my next sexual activity.  I am a 49 male and have never had any history of migranes/headaches, I am not overweight and I am quite fit. 

Do any of you who have suffered over the last few months have any improvements or great cures that you can share.  I am worried that this may not be simple to cure. I don't want to be afraid to have sex!

Paul

*

Offline Oneeyedguy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 15
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #124 on: 23/04/2008 15:12:27 »
After a year of absolute misery with this I think I might be coming out of it. In the last month, I've had about 5 orgasms, 4 of which have been pain-free, 1 of which was maybe 20% painful compared to the 100% headcrushers. I wish I could say with full confidence it was down to something really specific - I've been trying to do regular Pilates, I've been seeing an osteopath re my painful, tensed-up neck, he's been giving me acupuncture as well as massage, ultrasound. I have had advice and support from others on this forum, for which so many thanks, it helps when you know others are coping and some things do seem to work. But if I'm honest I think it has just gone away 'by itself'. My neck's not been great lately, but this has still happened. It's not completely the same as it was before; I can sense something rumbling 'in the background' when I come, a sort of faint echo of the pre-headachey sensation. But they don't appear, and I am learning to relax and enjoy orgasms again. The first time, I just lay there waiting for it to explode. When it hadn't happened after about a minute, I was like, what the hell is happening? I put it down to a fluke. But no fluke. It might come back, I guess; I'm just trying to enjoy things while I can.

So don't lose hope. Don't stop trying, every so often - otherwise you'll never know. If you've been checked out and the docs are satisfied it's benign sexual headache, then you aren't risking your health as far as I can see. What else can I tell you? They went away after a really bad 2-week bout of flu. I lost 3/4 stone - maybe that helps? But I felt dreadful during the flu, my neck was killing me, I got really dehydrated, couldn't keep a thing down, had to go into hospital at one stage. Came out, drained. Two weeks later, the clouds have started to lift. If anything changes, I'll be back on here, but for now - don't give in to feeling hopeless. Just say to yourself, I'm changing my approach to sex. Cuddle, get aroused - you can't help it - but don't push it. Exercise, try to feel healthier. And every so often, try to come, as gently and relaxed as you can.

*

BriDog67

  • Guest
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #125 on: 30/05/2008 02:08:38 »
Hello all,
Glad I found you guys. I've had this problem since age 16 (now 41) Here's the commonalities in my case.

1 - Happens every summer when the weather gets warm, never during the winter (I live in MI, USA)
2 - I have smoked marijuana the entire tim
3 - Orgasm at least once a day
4 - I'm non athletic and slightly overweight

I've been to the doctor numerous times and none have ever helped me, one doctor left the room to google it. I've just learned to live with it. I know when it first happens that it will be 2-3 weeks before it goes away. Someone mentioned taking Exedrin Migraine a couple hours prior, I tried it and it may have helped a bit. Breathing is definately the key. I tend to hold my breath and tense up a lot. Controlling that reduces the pain by about 60% for me. If anyone, ANYONE has found a successful remedy for this PLEASE let us know.

*

Offline ptor

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #126 on: 02/06/2008 16:16:11 »
Had my 1st experience last week....just before orgasm the base of my skull felt like a vise crushing it. I rarely get headaches so was concerned. Took 2 advil after it subsided 15min later. Still had a dull headache. 2 days later could feel the same pain building when started masturbating so stopped. 2 days later I still have a dull headache. No real pain its just there. If it persists in a few more days will go in to get a scan just to make sure. Im 41, very fit/active, no neck pain, history of low blood pressure. Will focus on breathing 2 c if that makes any difference. Thanks for all your postings.

*

Offline Retry2

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #127 on: 11/06/2008 12:19:32 »
Edit: I too am having the sinus drainage/pleghm problem...and it showed up right before the recurrence of the headaches

I'm 20 years old, male, and on the heavier end of the still athletically capable scale...I had my first thunderclap headache last year, during the summer, and continued to have them for a few months. Needless to say, their timing in my sex life had put some strain on my new wife and I. But in my case, they also occur when I do push ups, which is markedly close to the missionary position so I had thought there to be a correlation, which I'm not so sure about now, as masturbation causes them too. They went away during the winter, which I hadn't even thought about attributing to the season. And then the Army shipped me to Korea, before my scheduled MRI. I hadn't thought about the headaches much during this winter, seeing as how I've been without sexual contact, but yesterday, as the summer started to get back in full swing, i got a headache during my pushups that was so severe I passed out. The military doctors here are useless, and haven't been asking the right questions when I talked to them, but after a few minutes online I found a possible name for my problem at the very least "Coital Cephalgia" 

here is just what wikipedia has had to say about it

newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coital_cephalalgia [nonactive]

If anyone else has any information regarding this problem....PLEASE post
« Last Edit: 11/06/2008 12:43:53 by Retry2 »

*

Offline anubisdogg

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #128 on: 07/07/2008 06:11:06 »
I have just found this website, I am a 21 year old male. I started having these headaches last year they lasted about 4 months and happened every time I had sex or masturbated. Then just as quickly as they came they were gone again. Now almost a year later they started up 2 nights ago. I have been to the doctor but am going to a different one in the next week. I don't have any sinus problems or allergies at all. I have low blood pressure but that is in hand and my p/b is usually normal. I did find that sometimes taking Advil before sex helps, at least a little bit.

Alexander

*

Offline EvilHeadAches

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #129 on: 14/07/2008 22:06:32 »
First One happened last night. Girlfriend is a nurse, im a firefighter. We both thought i was having an anyeurism. Started to subside so we calmed down a bit. Woke up this morning with the same dull ache at the base of skull, moving to my peripherals and right behind my eyes. Found this to be the best explanation. Not going to sit here and say im not devastated. But i guess i have it too. coital cephalalgia. look it up. It might sound familiar. Have an awesome day. OH YEAH...im only 22... This sh1t better not last forever

*

Offline Paka

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #130 on: 26/07/2008 04:31:47 »
Hello All,
I had this headache today for the first time and it was sudden, right at the "Big O". it was all the back of my head and neck, heart beat was very high (I could feel it) (my heart beat is usually 95-100).  I have experience the very same headaches when I work a lot under high temperature or under the sun (like gardening)  it usually starts gradually but this time it was suddenlly, but it was the same pattern and intensity as when I dont take my medicine inmediately when it starts.  Also I kind of have the same headache in the middle of the night when I used my pillow in certain way that makes some kind of pressure on my neck on the back of my head.  My guess is there might be some kind of blockage at the area of the neck of where the head starts and when there is some kind of pressure makes it worse.  Does anyone have any news about this?  also I am close to the visit of "Aunt flow" Any of you were close to it when you had this episode?  I am just trying to find any common factors to put something together so that when I go to the Doc I have something to say that I am not along [:-[]   
Thahk you All.

*

Offline omglol

  • First timers
  • *
  • 3
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #131 on: 04/08/2008 07:30:27 »
He-ya ho.

Alright.

I saw this thread randomly after searching for something completely different on google.

« Last Edit: 13/08/2008 05:05:35 by omglol »

*

Offline Monarch

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #132 on: 02/09/2008 16:02:48 »
WOW! This headache happened to me just last night.  This was about the third time this has happened in a years time.  But last night I thought my head was going to explode.  The pain went from the top of my head and ran across the top to the back of the neck.  Extreme pain I had never felt before.  I thought I was having an aneurysm.  I then began to cry because the pain was so bad, which probably made it worse.   We had to stop before the orgasm ever happened.  [:(!]   Right after I took two Excedrin and the pain subsided but went to dull pain behind my eyes and in my neck for many hours.  I woke up without the headache thank goodness, but the thought of it returning during sex is scary.  Not sure if I should see a doctor or not.  I have had sinus problems, not sure if thats a factor as other have had too.  As for the blood pressure, I am willing to bet it was sky high during this headache!

P.S.  To those of you wondering in other emails....Sex is better after 40.  Amazingly indescribable.  [;)] You younger folks will just have to find out for yourselves when you get here.  I would hate to have to stop now!

Debra

*

Offline seacanvas

  • First timers
  • *
  • 4
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #133 on: 05/09/2008 19:41:11 »
I'm new here - I have been reading about these orgasm headaches for 1 1/2 hours - made my headache subside  [:o]

I'm going to share something personal - but it is relevant, that's why I share it. I'm a 39 year old female, single, and had probably the most fantastic sex ever about 4 days ago - with myself, of all things. I thought I was on the plateau of being in a constant orgasmic state for a good 30 minutes - or so it felt at the time. I had never experienced anything like it - and in all my orgasms through the years, I've gotten to know my body enough to know when it's going to be a little "plff...", a moderate "oh yeah" or a big wowzie...

This one, let's just say, felt like I was going to the point of no return... only I never got there, because that's when this "thunderclap headache" you are all describing happened. I tried to ignore it because I felt so close, but the overpowering headache was too much and I had to stop. It felt like all those things mentioned - like an aneurysm, or like my head was going to pop off my body. I had a mild headache the day after.

I thought nothing of it the next night, though, and remembered the great time I had, so I tried again, to have it repeat, nearly identically. Sigh. The next day, another mild headache all day long.

I took a day off (ha) and tonight I just touched myself no more than 2 minutes and got another unbelievable headache. This was not anywhere near the stimulation that had brought on the other headaches.

So now that I've read everyone else's experiences and recommendations, here is what I can say about me and my experience.... I am overweight and was recently in Hong Kong. I got some Chinese medicine that's supposed to help increase metabolism by opening the arteries and blood vessels in the body while you are digesting food (you take them after you eat). I don't know the name of the herb or combination of herbs, but I've been losing weight in a way that is gradual and has no side effects. I don't feel anything when I take the pills. I wonder now if these pills are partly related to this experience? I say that because, when the headaches happen, I can feel my heart beating hard and pulses in my head that really feel like blood pumping in to my brain. The pills are supposed to help with lessening hardening of the arteries or clearing debris that is trying to set into artery walls (particularly the fat deposits - or I suppose it's called astherosis, spelling?). Since I'm overweight I wanted something to help increase my metabolism (since I know that is a problem) and wanted to make sure I'm not doing myself in with the artery thing.

In my personal history of orgasm experiences, sometimes when I'm trying to orgasm, I will be trying so hard that I notice I'm so tense that I can't "let go" - and if I try to "make it happen" I seem to frustrate the process. Sometimes I've had experiences where I will orgasm in those moments - but they are of the "pfff" NADA variety, hardly worth it, so I've learned to do this "apple grabbing game" while I'm trying to make myself relax.

It goes like this. I picture myself reaching into a paper bag. And I'm trying to get the "apple" that is on the bottom of the bag, below all the other apples on top of it. Before I start reaching, I am completely tense, and as I start reaching for bottom of the bag, going through all the apples, my body slowly relaxes, little by little, until I don't feel any tension anywhere. The point at which I can grab the apple at the bottom, of course, is the point of climax.

I find the more I make myself relax... if I can hold the orgasm back until I feel no tension anywhere (I pay really close attention to my feet, toes, legs, thighs, pelvic area, especially), then I end up having a lovely, flowering orgasm of the "medium variety" - lovely, satisfying, but not intense, necessarily.

So I say all this because I noticed that when I got this headache this week for first time, I was so tense that I almost couldn't let go of the tension. I was trying the "apple grabbing game" technique, but it wasn't working because I was trying to orgasm in a new way and new position than normal. This created the tension - yet I felt I was on the precipice of a new experience - had I really had the orgasm, it might have been body - blowing

(I won't say mind-blowing because IT WAS MIND-BLOWING, literally!)

Another factor - I had used, for the first time, this sensual oil that is supposed to heat up when you stimulate the area you apply it to. I put this oil around the clitoris area, and it really heightened the entire experience. I could feel everything. After this headache, I wondered if that oil might have caused a nerve to heat up a bit much and send a signal to the brain. Like an internal temperature gauge blowing. That's kinda what it felt like.

Anyway, jeez.... I think I gotta take a break from sex now. So... I plan to go to the Dr. anyway and get the MRI just to be safe. I'm going to take my pills and see what they say about them, if there might be any possible side effects to them I wasn't aware of. I'm very shy to talk about this because I'm in a foreign country and it's embarrassing to do that here, not to mention the language barrier. Sigh. But I suppose better safe than sorry.

Oh my God, these headaches feel absolutely horrible and scary. Tonight I really thought I was going to throw up after 2 minutes. I made my way to the medicine cabinet, downed 2 pills for headaches, turned on the air conditioner and sat under it, took my shirt off because I was so incredibly hot. (The weather where I am is not excessively hot). I turned on the computer and started reading about this, get my mind on other things, and now I feel normal again (aside from a mild headache).

I read somewhere, in a sex book for couples with sex problems, to focus on enjoying touching each other, but not putting so much focus on orgasm - or making each other "come". This is coming to mind now - though I'm with myself, maybe I need to do that ... focus more on enjoying my body instead of trying so hard to make myself come. But in my experience, I've never come by relaxing the whole time during the process.

Maybe this goes to show that that old saying that there really can be too much of a good thing?

*

Offline seacanvas

  • First timers
  • *
  • 4
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #134 on: 05/09/2008 19:48:27 »
I forgot to ask, the point of telling you my story of how I orgasm is this - women, have you ever been able to make yourself orgasm without tensing at all? How did you do it? With me, it seems to always start with tensing and me becoming more and more relaxed. Because of these headaches, I'm realizing part of this might be I need to learn how to not tense anymore when I'm in the process of orgasm, but I don't even know if that is possible?

*

Offline Don_1

  • Neilep Level Member
  • ******
  • 6890
  • A stupid comment for every occasion.
    • View Profile
    • Knight Light Haulage
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #135 on: 09/09/2008 17:16:34 »
Can someone refresh my memory, what's an orgasm?
If brains were made of dynamite, I wouldn't have enough to blow my nose.

*

Offline seacanvas

  • First timers
  • *
  • 4
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #136 on: 25/09/2008 23:44:37 »
I reread my previous post, and wow, I was horny  [:o] I guess after reading 6 pages about orgasms, it got to me....

I wanted to get back on here, even though this thread doesn't look as active anymore to let people know something important, which is more important, your money or your life? I'm serious.

In my case, things haven't turned out favorably. I had lots of blood tests run and an MRI. My blood tests were great, normal levels for everything, low cholesterol, but my MRI showed a middle cerebral artery stenonis - meaning, atherosclerosis in the middle artery in the brain, the one that goes smack down the middle. I found this out 3 days ago. I'm about 80 lbs overweight, and the dr. looked me square in the face and said, "you need to lose weight as soon as possible, safely." He said it very, very seriously. I got the impression it was "do or die." He basically said I'm at risk for a stroke.

I will give you more history on my symptoms, in case anyone else is wondering, or can use the information. But that week I was having the orgasms and experiencing the headaches, one night it was so bad, I went to the bathroom because I felt like I was going to vomit. Everything was spinning, my vision was blurry - I just remember bracing myself against the wall. I remember being in there about 40 minutes, just praying for the headache to go away, it literally felt like my head was going to pop off my body. When I went back in the livingroom, I noticed 3-4 drops of blood on the floor (not menstrual blood). I had no idea where that came from? I didn't hurt anywhere.

That's when I got on the internet, found this thread, and FOLLOWED THE ADVICE TO GET IT CHECKED. I know how it feels to not have insurance. I thank God I have insurance because I may have not gone to get it, for the same reason. But, get yourself checked to make sure there is no problem because it could mean your life!

Anyway, so I laid off on the masturbating for the time being, and started eating really well and exercising every night. But, while exercising, I would feel these headaches coming on, so I'd just back off on the exercising and stop before they got bad. I remember one morning being at the grocery store and these people tried to butt in line ahead of me. I got upset and told them to wait their turn; I could feel the blood rise to my head and my head started pounding. I remember deciding right then and there, "Don't get upset over this." I breathed, and calmed down, and the pounding subsided.

This week was when I found out what my MRI said. I'm not eating a very restricted diet similar to a mediterranean diet (with online research, this is a good diet for this). Per the advice of my doctor, no strenuous exercise, he recommended walking, so I'm walking about 30-60 minutes a night, moderately, to start. Also, he gave me BP medicine, medicine for my blood to help it pass through better, and ibuprophen.

I thought all these tests would come back negative - I've always prided myself on having good health despite an overeating problem (as I've been overweight for 15 years, and love french fries and pasta and etc)... my family has excellent genes - only my grandfather had a stroke, and it was when he was well into his late 70s. Also, my blood pressure is in the normal range! But I'm taking the medicine because I assume the dr. knows what he is doing. I may have that condition where, when I get upset, it skyrockets. Maybe I've had that condition all alone.

If someone is seriously considering NOT getting themselves checked out, or while you are thinking about it, I highly recommend immediately taking divine care of yourself, check your BP when you are upset and when you are calm, and think carefully about whether or not your money or your life is more important.

It's been hard coming to terms with this, but I'm feeling better everyday. I feel soooooo lucky the dr's caught it in time and they are able to help me. I understand the medicine I'm taking will help immensely with cutting my risks for a problem.

Also THANK YOU to the person who was posting on here about having these symptoms then ending up in a wheelchair. Sorry I forgot your name - I had browsed through the thread to find you but couldn't. So here is my thank you. Hearing your story helped me take this seriously and get help.


*

Offline seacanvas

  • First timers
  • *
  • 4
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #137 on: 25/09/2008 23:52:04 »
p.s. One mistake above, I said I was not eating a restricted diet, I meant, I am eating a restricted diet now.

The other thing I forgot to say - I've been reading about strokes and was surprised to learn that they can happen to babies, healthy young 20 year olds, as well as middle aged and old. Some people can inherit a problem and not even know it. For example, that 3 year old obviously didn't have a stroke because of bad eating habits, he was hardly here long enough. In my case, I don't know if it's my bad diet, hereditary, or both... my point being, if you read my post, and you are young and/or healthy, don't assume you are not at risk for something serious going on. Better to know you are ok than risk your life, wouldn't you think?

*

Offline D123456

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #138 on: 06/12/2008 10:38:31 »
I feel sorry for all of you suffering from this... I suffered from it too, if only for a few days, and I can see how it is no easy thing to just deal with.

I went to my doctor and she perscribed me Cyclobenzaorine, to ease the tension in my neck and relax my muscles and its worked wonders. I have no more headaches or pain...

These headaches came about for me because of my poor posture, sitting at the computer for lengthy amounts of time and not stretching. I think being more active and limber could help in many peoples cases and trying not to let anxiety make you tense up during the day.

I hope this post helps...

 

*

Offline flp

  • First timers
  • *
  • 3
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #139 on: 16/12/2008 04:03:14 »
Four days ago. It was the most godawful headache I have ever had in my life. All the same thoughts and fears. Aneurysm? Stroke? Dying? Felt very drowsy after that, till the next day.

The first thing I found on the net was this forum. God bless every one who gave details on their experience. All the info will help us understand this problem. Doctors don't seem to know much about it. Maybe people are shy about discussing the situation in which it happens?

And again had it a day later, this one was even worse.

The severe pain came on suddenly, starting from the base of the left side of the back of the skull, travelled rapidly upwards and reached the top of the back of the head, and in about 10 to 15 seconds spread down to the base of the right side of the back of the skull and also around the sides towards the front of the head. The pain on the right side was bad but not as intense as on the left side, and the throbbing pain spreading around the head was still less intense though it was also painful.

Had to discontinue sex, couldn't go on, tried to calm down by taking several deep breaths. The pain took very much longer to subside than it took to appear, and in about 30 minutes, downgraded to a lingering headache centred on the back of the head and mild fever for the rest of the day and the next. Couldn't concentrate, restless, very drowsy, constant mild nausea. Took a 6-hour nap, woke up still feeling drowsy. Next day, after a night's sleep, still drowsy and lethargic, feeling just slightly better, still with the mild fever, lingering mild headache, and feeling achy all over.

Did some research on the net. I am no doctor but I think I found what may be the possible cause.

This syndrome appears to be related to an existing infection or sepsis going on elsewhere in the body.

One poster said his chiropractor told him he had a "neck infection". This guy probably knows what he's talking about.

The question to ask is: Do I have or recently had an injury or infection in the nose (sinus), jaw, mouth (gum, teeth), ear, throat, neck (larynx) or lungs (bronchi)? Those are the key areas but there could be an infection somewhere else.

I suspect, in most cases, the answer will be 'yes'.

In my case, it is an abscess I had last week and still have in my jawbone, possibly due to the decay of the original tooth stub in one of my crowns. The abscess is in the left upper jaw bone in the fold between the gum and lip, just under the corner of the left nostril. Right next to the front left sinus. Don't think I have a sinus infection but did have a low fever and constant headache most of last week, been sneezing a lot lately and generally feeling very much under the weather.

Infections of this sort, including sinus, throat and lung infections are very often caused by the common bacteria, Staphylococcus Aureus.

"Over 30 different types of Staphylococci can infect humans, but most infections are caused by Staphylococcus aureus. Staphylococci can be found normally in the nose and on the skin (and less commonly in other locations) of 20%-30% of healthy adults. In the majority of cases, the bacteria do not cause disease. However, damage to the skin or other injury may allow the bacteria to overcome the natural protective mechanisms of the body, leading to infection."
- newbielink:http://www.medicinenet.com/staph_infection/article.htm [nonactive]

The rest of the article is very informative.

So what is the possible connection between an infection in or near the head and coital cephalgia?

Bacterial toxins.

Most bacterial or Staph infections are localised, causing sepsis, redness, swelling, pain and pus at the site of infection. The bacterial activity produces by-products which are toxic to organic tissue, thus causing the symptoms. The bacteria and toxins can infiltrate the bloodstream to cause blood poisoning, a serious life-threatening condition. Or they can spread to and affect other parts of the body also via the bloodstream. You can also get Staph infection through contact with infected persons or their personal items, especially if your immunity is compromised.

So the hypothesis is that, due to a localised infection in, around or near the neck, when the blood pressure increases and/or blood vessels dilate during certain physical activities, the bacterial toxins are swept downstream by the increased blood flow, first into the immediate surrounding circulatory system, which is when the concentration of toxins are at its highest, and then throughout the body.

That the syndrome appears and disappears apparently spontaneously also points to bacterial infection being the probable cause.

Doctors commonly prescribe antibiotics for all sorts of conditions, even for illnesses which are of viral origin, on which antibiotics actually have no effect.

It is possible that the coital cephalgia clears up because the use of antibiotics for some other reason resolved the sepsis which caused the coital cephalgia.

E.g. For years, millions of people suffered chronic gastric problems and ulcers because the cause was unknown, so there was no effective treatment for it, until it was found accidentally that the culprit was a bacteria, Helicobacter Pylori. Patients who took antibiotics for other conditions reported that their gastritis also cleared up.

What would be a possible treatment for coital cephalgia? Antibiotics.

If it can be ascertained that there is a bacterial infection ongoing somewhere in, around or near the head, then a medically-supervised course of antibiotics can be prescribed. A blood culture can also determine the presence of Staph. Also, abscesses may need to be surgically drained and cleaned out.

Sudden onset of a severe headache can also indicate a stroke. So the first time one gets this type of headache, an immediate medical checkup is important. Especially if there are also symptoms such as numbness or weakness in some part of the body, dizziness, blurred vision, slurred speech, nausea, breathing difficulties.

This is what I suggest, if it happens for the first time:

Go for a medical checkup a.s.a.p. to rule out a possible stroke, or other serious diseases.

Also ask for a blood culture to be done to check for Staph infection.

If "there's nothing wrong, everything seems to be normal", then ask for a course of antibiotics. Especially if the Staph test is positive.

Sometimes an active infection can go unnoticed or undetected.

And do finish the antibiotic course properly, according to instructions.

Apart from the antibiotics, there are other things one can do to help the healing; and inform your doctor.

Lay off sex until complete recovery - probably takes about 2 to 3 weeks.
Get more rest or extra sleep.
Drink plenty of liquids daily to flush out the toxins.
Eat more natural foods and avoid processed or refined foods.
Take a multi-vitamin and mineral supplement daily, with meals. Should contain at least 1000mg Vit C and 15mg Zinc; additional cod liver oil also helps. Continue for 1 month, better if taken indefinitely to maintain immunity and good health.
Take first 1 tsp of Echinacea extract, then 20 drops extract 3 times a day, continue for 1 week.
Take 20,000 units garlic oil (capsules) 2 times a day OR 3000 units every 3 hours, continue for 10 days.
One day after the antibiotic course is finished, start taking yoghurt daily for 2 to 4 weeks, or take a good acidophilus supplement capsule for the same period of time.
« Last Edit: 20/12/2008 20:02:14 by flp »

*

Offline nik

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #140 on: 15/01/2009 21:22:00 »
So glad to have found these posts, by far the most useful thing I have found on the internet about this. I've read through them all and just thought I would add my own experience because it contains something that I have not read in anybody else's account.

After very little sex in the past 5 years, and none for over a year, I recently became involved with a new partner. Although only 44 I had become aware in the past few years that my erection was not all that it once was, and being quite nervous abut this I hurriedly acquired some viagra from the internet. I am 99% certain that it is the real thing and not a copy/something else entirely.

I used it 4 times, in low (25mg) doses, and from the first use I was aware of a headache on the side and back of my head. Not a bad one, maybe 3/10 on my subjective pain scale. I was not overly bothered about this, having looked at the side effects and followed a few forums, headache is a common side effect.

The 4th time i used it however, I became aware of the full on pain building that other sufferers have described. It built so strongly that I had to cease before orgasm, and at this point had to confess all to my partner, who, to her credit, was very understanding.

Assuming it was all viagra based I stopped using it forthwith. The headaches persisted however, though on all but one occasion, where I again had to cease prior to orgasm, they were manageable. When I masturbated they were maybe 2-3 on my pain scale, and during intercourse 4-5.

My partner was away for a couple of weeks and when she returned we had intercourse again. This would be a month since taking the viagra. The full on pain built just before orgasm but this time I went through with it. Big mistake. 11 out of 10 on my pain scale.

I was beside myself, thought that something was really very seriously wrong, and for around 2 hours was close to calling for an ambulance. This was about 5 in the afternoon. Only the fact that I had had something similar before and not died stopped me.

I did not sleep that night because I could not lie horizontally without increasing the blood pressure in my head, and in the morning, the pain having subsided to about a 7 I went straight to my GP, thinking that I needed to discuss this.

He seemed pretty concerned, particularly as my reflexes were poor in my right leg, and I was sent straight to hospital. A worrying few hours ensued, but the CT scan and lumbar puncture drew a negative and I was sent home.

So here I am, 3 days on from the initial incident, relieved that I am not about to die, but the pain is still a 5.

I am reasonably fit, maybe 10kg overweight, blood pressure fine, but have migraines with vomiting, not aura,  about once every 2 months, and have poor posture and neck/shoulder stiffness due to the usual, constant laptop computer use. Noting others comments, I also have a right sinus that permanently drains into my throat and causes sleep apnea

Neither GP nor consultant appeared particularly interested in the viagra connection, but I thought I would report it here in case it interests others.

I am, of course, stressed to hell about all this. I think the chiropracter route suggested by others is something I might try.




*

Offline papus

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #141 on: 21/02/2009 19:20:40 »
I am so glad that I found this feed.  I recently had a problem like this.  I was masterbating the other day and as I started to get excited, I got a stabbing pain in my head above my right ear.  I stopped as I thought I was having a stroke or something and the stabbing calmed but the throbbing continued and felt like it was spreading over the whole right side of my head.  It was the absolute worst headache I have ever had.  Popped some advil and it calmed but didn't actually go away for a couple days.  I tried it again since I didn't get to finish the first time.  It was about 4 days later.  Same thing happened except it was behind my ear this time.  I continued on since I knew it wasn't going to kill me this time.  I wondered would it go away after the climax.  It didn't, in fact it got worse and it was blinding.  Popped some advil again and this time it calmed much more quickly and stayed gone.  I'm curious as to if it will do the same with actual intercourse.  I'm fairly sexually active and have never had this happen before.  I have recently changed medication from Paxil to Effoxor XR and I wonder if that has anything to do with it all. 
Anyone else on anti depressants that have this happening?  Or is it just one of those things?

*

Offline Eve57

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #142 on: 05/03/2009 00:41:40 »
Hi all, Cannot believe this site is here, however, am so pleased it is. Have had two of these headaches now and wanted to find out any info that may explain them, hence good old "google". I am a happily married 52 year old female & have recently experience this head pain during intercourse with my husband. The first time on the weekend I literally thought my head was going to explode right off my shoulders. The pain was excruciating. Started as I was working up to climaxing and exploded in my head when orgasm was reached. I was on top and thought that maybe was overexerting myself, so several days later tried different technique and masterbated whilst lying on my back. Same thing, same amount of pain. It was after that I became really concerned and decided I had better check it out. The local GP put me onto HRT 9 months ago because I was beginning to suffer symptoms of menopause. Perimenopausal she called it. Did not do any blood tests to see if oestrogen levels had dropped, & I was still getting regular periods. When I asked about tests to confirm menopause was told that she was treating the "symptoms" and could guarantee that this was what was wrong with me. I have recently been suffering from reflux and was put onto Nexium 40gm for that, so am wondering if either of the meds might have something to do with it. To be very honest I am too scared to let myself get to the stage of orgasm now as I really don't want to experience the head pain and am a little nervous about heading down to the family GP as it is a rather sensitive issue and as much as I can confide this info anonymously to you lot, it is a bit different speaking directly to the doctor. Remember that women of my age don't have sex let alone orgasm!!!??? :o) This is what I think my children think anyway.
As far as I know I am healthy, other than being told by my dietitian that I need to lose about 10kg. Walk five days or workout for 40 to 45 mins in gym. Never smoked but enjoy a glass of wine most evenings before dinner. I was with my dad in hospital for 4 days before he finally passed away after he had a massive brain hemorrhage due to a secondary tumor found in the brain and can tell you I never want to go down that path.

*

Offline tabatha

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #143 on: 06/05/2009 16:29:28 »
ah great, eventually allowed to read page 6 after a 24 hour cliffhanger of superhighway denial! have experienced 3 such headaches in the past 6 weeks, fortunately seem to be getting off much lighter than a lot of others here as they only start to build about 30 seconds before climax, once reached it is accompanied by an excruciating blast of pain which leaves me feeling asif  my brain just blew the upper right quadrant of my skull right off, the pain then gradually dissipates within about 5 minutes. The whole time the pain concentrates in the same spot between ear and back of the eyeball and doesnt affect the neck or lower skull area at all. The position of choice each time has been upright although not always the same. Needless to say the urge to let go has waned somewhat...my man here thinks his luck is in with all the extra treats coming his way recently  [:P]
Am interested in this theory that a bacterial infection could be the root, and for sure I have posture problems...2 slipped discs in the past year and a hefty tumble to boot!
Went to the doctor today, not my own...foreign land and all...because I had an unexplained mother of all rashes combined with weird facial pain that had no bruising no congestion and no obvious source. I suffer from many  allergies and always they display the same symptoms, itch runny nose then congestion  plus irritated eyes and itcy throat ..then ,dependent on the source, swollen oral tissue and hives on the face. This rash came along with none of these...not even the facial hives. There was no accompanying fever or headache just an immensely swollen hot rash that moved from one part of the body to another. I had taken an antihistamine naturally..it had no effect..the rash worsened over the next 12 hours. However the gp was determined it was an allergy. He said it was a sun allergy, he had seen much after the warm weekend. He wasnt interested in the fact that I hadnt left the house in 4 days let alone sat in the sun. Told me to go home and take another 2 antihistamines.
Oh, also he disregarded that fact that 6 weeks ago I returned from a 4 month stint in central america and mexico.  Naturally I was not inclined to any longer discuss my orgasm headaches with him and the possibility that I may have picked up some kind of bacterial infection whilst travelling that is triggering them.
Not sure what quite to do next.
Extra pointers..am a fairly healthy 37yrold with a great partner. About 10kilos overweight, currently zinc deficient and have undergone a fair amount of upheaval in the last 18months, have considered that excess stress and a desire for release maybe pushing my need to orgasm too far, making me try just too damn hard for it.
Will watch this space. Man its great to not be the only one, eh :)

*

Offline Mission

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #144 on: 05/06/2009 20:02:16 »
Headaches associated with orgasm are fairly common. The medical diagnosis is coital cephalgia (headache). My doctor prescribed 10MG of amitriptyline which did the trick.


Of interest:

newbielink:http://www.womenshealth.org/a/sex_headaches_coital_cephalgia.htm [nonactive]
newbielink:http://www.drdaveanddee.com/headache.html [nonactive]
newbielink:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sex-headaches/DS00645 [nonactive]

*

Offline GtotheGrizzle

  • First timers
  • *
  • 1
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #145 on: 13/06/2009 00:37:51 »
This happen to me as well. I had my second headache yesterday and it was worst this time than before. The weird thing is it only happens when I'm having sex "doggy style or standing up". I notice while doing my thing, my neck starts hurting, getting stiff(I'm not talking about my penis lol) and then when I release my head starts throbbing and aching so bad like a migrane...I had to clutch my head for like 10mins, I couldn't open my eyes. I was thinking I had a aneurysm or something. It was hurting for like hours and now my neck is soar. I always had some sort of neck problems in the past, but nothing like this. It's time to break down and go see a physical therapist or a doctor. I'm only 28 and not willing to give up my sex life for this + t.m.i its my wife's favorite position lol.

*

Offline Chemistry4me

  • Neilep Level Member
  • ******
  • 7709
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #146 on: 13/06/2009 00:40:13 »
Have you seen the most viewed thread on this forum? Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

*

Offline erinker

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #147 on: 30/06/2009 00:38:07 »
This is my first post.  I found this forum while doing an internet search on this very topic.

This very thing has been happening to me for the last month!  It hits right before orgasm and it quite literally feels like I am being stabbed in the head!  My blood pressure is normal-high and I have never had this kind of problem before.  I am hoping it goes away as quickly as it came because, like cruizin said, it really puts a damper on the sex drive.

*

Offline erinker

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #148 on: 30/06/2009 00:43:20 »
Quote
<font face="Impact"></font id="Impact">In reguards to:

<i>can anyone who hqas experienced this try to describe your headache in a bit more detail. Especially WHERE in your head the pain seemed to be centered?</i>


Mine starts on the left front part of my head, and shoots all the way back to the base of my neck.  It will last anywhere from a few minutes to hours on end, and sometimes my eyes swell up.

And yes, I am female.

*

Offline papus

  • First timers
  • *
  • 2
    • View Profile
Have you ever had a Thunderclap Headache During Orgasm?
« Reply #149 on: 07/07/2009 06:11:10 »
I posted in Feb. about the headaches and I will say that since that short period that I was having the headaches, it did actually stop.  I never went to the doctor about it but it did stop.  I'm happy about that.