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I looks like scientists are not great believers in a personal god and immortality. But I wonder how many scientists are believers in some sort of power/creator that is in charge in some sort of way? And, scientifically speaking, does it matter if individual scientists have these feelings/beliefs one way or the other?It is another one of those friendly arguments I seem to be getting into. This time not with my neighbor though.
Spirituality is a good thing, but do not confuse it with religion.
I think you'll find that scientists are really quite spiritual.
What about hardcore atheists like Richard Dawkins?
It has been a few years since I wrote anything on belief and atheism, so current thinking may have changed, but it is still a mindset many people hold.
Anyway, the dictionary definition is not really what you meant by spirituality; I think you meant the sense of wonderment that other people have described, but correct me if I'm wrong In which case it would be extremely difficult to measure, yes. I definitely feel a sense of wonderment when I come across a new or really exciting model describing reality, I think one of the most amazing parts of science is quantum mechanics. That never fails to make me feel awed.
My spiritual side is based more in fate and synchronicity, neither of which can be scientifically proven, but I don't need them to be. I can happily enjoy my belief knowing there is no evidential basis to it whatsoever.  On those terms only, it isn't much different from a belief in a deity.
Everyone needs something to believe in
I do envy them however as they are content while I still ask questions but I still wouldn't have it any other way.
Quote from: GlentoranMark on 03/01/2010 02:41:10I do envy them however as they are content while I still ask questions but I still wouldn't have it any other way.Yes, but look at it this way. If they are wrong, they will not be disappointed. If you are wrong, you could be pleasantly surprised.
I think that religion is good for giving people a moral code
Quote from: GlentoranMark on 03/01/2010 02:41:10I do envy them however as they are content while I still ask questions but I still wouldn't have it any other way.Yes, but look at it this way. If they are wrong, they will not be disappointed. If you are wrong, you could be pleasantly surprised.And why would any god punish you for using the intelligence that he had bestowed upon you? No. I think he would applaud you for not believing those who sought to take advantage of his message.BTW, do not assume that so called believers really are all that "content". They have to continually seek reassurance from those who share similar views. Religions are really just a form of "groupthink".I wonder how many people in the World comply with the local religious customs even although they know it's a load of baloney? I suspect it's a very large percentage of the population, but in many parts of the World it is extremely dangerous to ask questions. And that applies, even in the "civilized" USA.
I edited my post!I don't know about Pascal's theorem, so I'll have to call it Geezer's theorem 
Its better to believe in God than not as if you don't believe in and you make the wrong choice then your going to lose anyway.
And hence this bumper sticker...
"Yes I understand that you call yourself God, but?"Looking at him/her/burning Bush, etc etc, real hard, squinting like Clint Eastwood."Can you prove it?"