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Will attraction gravity of Newton bend light when passing behind the sun?
« Reply #20 on: 19/02/2010 03:20:07 »
It's just plain ridiculous to say that freshwater isn't as gravitationally attracted as saltwater. Do you really think this would have gone unnoticed by generations of physicists? Do you have any evidence for this ridiculous claim?

You know most comets are made of water, but they seem to be effected by gravity in exactly the same way as an object made of metal, rock, cheese, or fairy floss.
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« Reply #21 on: 19/02/2010 04:21:23 »
Salty water is good conductor of electro-magnetism, fresh water is not but it conducts in much lesser manner than salty water. We need electrolyte, re-with salt, when we de-hydrate because fresh water is poor conductor of electricity.

But your bringing up comet tail, composed of water, is new and has deeper implication.. Do we know what?.


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« Reply #22 on: 19/02/2010 04:47:50 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 19/02/2010 04:21:23
Do we know what?.

Can you be more specific?
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« Reply #23 on: 19/02/2010 11:36:14 »
Light makes the water tail of comet , which can be million of miles long, visible, bright. What comes to mind is, if outer space, spacetime, is curled, rippled by objects, like sun and earth, such million length brightened tail of comet would have been wavy, not as seen, straight,, as such tail is sensitive as to even  follow the flow of solar wind. .


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« Reply #24 on: 19/02/2010 12:10:12 »
Jsaldea12 - do you accept that your hypothesis may be wrong based on the observations pointed out by Madidus_Scientia?

Are you willing to entertain the prospect that you are, in fact, incorrect?
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« Reply #25 on: 19/02/2010 14:42:52 »


If matter, like earth and sun curl/ripple spacetime, such ripple, curling can be detected in that million length tail of comet, if there is, it could make the tail wavy, too, follow too, become curling but there is none..
unless the curl/ripple of spacetime is of short length that it cannot be detected.


Attraction gravity, positive to negative,  binds that million length tail. Water has positive and negative property.


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Will attraction gravity of Newton bend light when passing behind the sun?
« Reply #26 on: 19/02/2010 16:17:12 »
Is that a "no"?
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« Reply #27 on: 19/02/2010 19:46:09 »

... I am willing to entertain that I can be wrong ... We are all just human beings.

This comet is good ground for research. One thing I am sure of is the tail, though ionized and state of coma are grouping, composed of positive and negative, evidence of of attraction gravity.

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« Reply #28 on: 20/02/2010 23:22:40 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 19/02/2010 19:46:09

... I am willing to entertain that I can be wrong ... We are all just human beings.
I'm pleased to hear it. The idea of a discussion forum is that we can all learn from one another. If someone doggedly sticks to their pet hypothesis despite evidence to the contrary, it's like talking to a brick wall.
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« Reply #29 on: 21/02/2010 01:22:34 »

   

"Jsaldea12 - do you accept that your hypothesis may be wrong based on the observations pointed out by Madidus_Scientia?"

But I agree with peer Madidus_Scientia. there is magnetism in water, fresh. That is why the tail of comet is still grouping,with linked, even at the length is 150 million miles tail!! before the tail separate.If there is no attraction, the tail cannot sustain such length.

"Are you willing to entertain the prospect that you are, in fact, incorrect?" To err is human.

Regards,


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« Reply #30 on: 21/02/2010 01:44:32 »
Fresh water is gravitationally attracted, (positive to negative), just as  earth and everything on it is gravitationally attracted, pulled by the moon. …though human beings cannot feel the pull of the moon, it is there..This is concrete example of Newton definition of gravity. To my peer, I did not say that fresh water is not gravitationally attracted.

Can I be wrong? Yes, to err is human. we are just that.

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« Reply #31 on: 21/02/2010 02:19:51 »
No, but you said it would be less gravitionally attracted than salt water. That does not match observation.
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Will attraction gravity of Newton bend light when passing behind the sun?
« Reply #32 on: 21/02/2010 12:26:40 »


This is good: let me know what you know.


By the way, given a little more research, I shall be revealing the real culprit what is this repulsive force of cosmological constant. It is neither dark matter nor dark energy.

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