Can Lip Readers Identify Accents ?

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Can Lip Readers Identify Accents ?
« on: 21/02/2010 10:10:50 »
Is it possible for someone who can read lips to identify accents too ?


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« Reply #1 on: 21/02/2010 11:42:53 »
Now that is a very good question, what made ewe think of it?

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« Reply #2 on: 21/02/2010 11:57:00 »
Now that is a very good question, what made ewe think of it?


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I was watching a program that was being signed (for the deaf).....and the people also had strong accents.....It just made me think about whether deaf people who can read ' sign'  and read lips  as to whether they can also detect accents..
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« Reply #3 on: 24/02/2010 15:59:50 »
Accents appear as differences in the position and motion of the vocal tract, most noticeably the lips and jaw.  For example, among American dialects, southerners say "awl" for the word "oil" which most others pronounce as "oyil". 

Signers read signs, facial expressions, etc simultaneously.  A reader who's familiar with accents might recognize differences in another signer.  This article on regional signing dialects says that, for "self-signers"(?), there can be enough difference in the signing itself to allow a signer to recognize an accent.  This article also states,  surprisingly (for me), that just like Hispanic hearing people who "code switch" (ie, mix English and Spanish), so do these students mix ASL and LSM (American Sign Language and Mexican Sign Language)!!

An independent signer stands apart from the speaker and signs after the speaker speaks.  So, this spacial and temporal difference seems enough to me (I am guessing) to not allow much recognition of an accent.

Thanks Neilep for asking this enlightening question!



...and thank ewe Dave for answering it !.......


..as an English sheepy I am of course exposed to a whole gamut of very distinctive local accents & dialects and I assume that the same breadth and wealth is represented in America Land too.......but...as an English sheepy...I usually have difficulty in distinguishing between American and Canadian accents !...It would be interesting to know if an American lip reader could easily distinguish between the American accents and then know immediately that a Canadian one is being used.
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