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Why does diesel smell bad?
« on: 16/03/2010 17:07:31 »
If gasoline and diesel are just different in the length of the hydrocarbons, and then why do they smell different?  My hand stinks everytime I pump diesel into my car, but I never had that problem with regular gasoline.
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #1 on: 16/03/2010 17:37:29 »
I actually find diesel a bit less obnoxious than gasoline.

Gasoline evaporates quite quickly, so there is no residue on the pump. Diesel is very "oily" and it does not evaporate much, so it gets all over the gas pump nozzle then onto your hands.

You might wear a pair of gloves or put a paper towel in your hand when you touch the pump.

Of course, you could always move to Oregon or New Jersey where someone else has to pump the diesel for you.  [:D]
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #2 on: 16/03/2010 19:11:52 »
It's a good approximation to say that petrol and oil are just hydrocarbons, but it's not entirely true. The process starts with crude oil which also contains sulphur and nitrogen compounds.
During refining some of these get removed but not all of them. Generally diesel engines are less "fussy" about what they burn than petrol ones so the fuel needs to be refined to a higher degree. This also removes lots of the sulphur and nitrogen compounds which contribute a lot of the odour.

Also not all the hydrocarbons are simple straight chains. There are also cyclic and aromatic carbon compounds present. Though these compounds are called "aromatic" they don't always smell nice. Petrol has quite a lot of some of the lighter aromatics and these don't smell too bad. Diesel has relatively more of the heavier aromatics (like naphthalene) which are not very nice.
Of course, all the stuff about what "smells nice" is a matter of opinion anyway.
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #3 on: 16/03/2010 20:18:22 »
I understand the truckers in the US like a high sulphur content in diesel because it helps to lubricate the engine. (It also causes a lot of the nasty soot that comes out the exhaust!)
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #4 on: 16/03/2010 22:46:07 »
How would sulphur act as a lubricant? What's the chemistry behind that? I can only imagine it would behave as an acid and erode the engine components...
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #5 on: 17/03/2010 00:10:38 »
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Sulfur is not a lubricant in of itself, but it can combine with the nickel  content in many metal alloys to form a low melting point eutectic alloy that can increase lubricity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-low_sulfur_diesel#North_America
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Why does diesel smell bad?
« Reply #6 on: 03/05/2010 01:39:59 »
Quote from: Geezer on 16/03/2010 17:37:29
Of course, you could always move to Oregon or New Jersey where someone else has to pump the diesel for you.  [:D]
There is no mandatory full service in Oregon and New Jersey for diesel.
* NJ full serve law.pdf (110.64 kB - downloaded 1364 times.)
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