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quote:also did you know that if you pass your test now your only allowed three point in the first two years get four and your banned for six months and have to retake all your tests
quote:Originally posted by ukmickyI still reckon its a big money making scam designed so the instructors and schools can make as much money out of the pupils as possible. Take my daughters instructor for instance, according to him it takes between 40 to 50 lessons before somebody is ready for the test. That's 30 to 40 more lessons than it took when i passed.
quote: And you consider yourself professional UK Micky?
quote: With the attitude you have for your childs' learning experience I would not be surprised if you are having some "social" problems!
quote:The driving test and methods of learning to drive have changed quite markedly, especially since 1995. Prior to then almost anyone could have passed the driving test due to one thing alone - the system of marking of faults. Back then you could commit as many (minor) driver errors as you liked and would not fail, however, nowadays if you commit the same fault 3 times that can and almost always does become a serious fault. 1 serious or dangerous fault means fail!!!Think back honestly and ask yourself if you notice anything different about driving when you passed your test to driving now? I passed my test around the same time as you about 22 years ago. I know for a fact that if I drove on a driving test with those same standards I passed with back then that I would now fail the test quite drastically - and deservedly so.
quote:As for your comparison to the price of driving lessons, I almost laughed out loud at your incredibly stupid comment...think how much a new car cost to purchase, insure, fuel costs etc etc...the list goes on.
quote:Have you asked your own insurance company how much it would be for your learner driver daughter to be added to your insurance or better still ask how much it would cost if she had her own car...then faint!!!
quote: Driving instructors are a very easy target to take a pop at, it is all to easy to make inaccurate comparisons with when we learned to drive to todayís roads and standards required to pass. As for price, I reckon if instructors charged more like £50 an hour it would reflect their profession and the increased cost of living more accurately and this would be much fairer.
quote: I would not want my sons on the road alone with 6 - 10 hours of training not when I have to drive to and from work and see all the other idiots who subscribe to your way of thinking driving on the roads today...take some responsibility man for your kids and get your daughter properly prepared for the test.
quote: Incidentally, after reading your mince, I took a look at http://www.dsa.gov.uk you should take a look at the DL25 that is the examiners marking sheet, thank goodness I don't have to take a test again now. The DSA is the Driving Standards Agency, a government body and part of the Dept for Transport, the website makes interesting reading.
quote: Finally, you should take a look at the European parliament too, legislation is being passed right now which means that all drivers will be re-assessed every 5 years, hoorah, it might just keep idiots like you off our roads and they might just become a safer place again.
quote: Stay safe out there.
quote:Are driving lessons a big con designed just to make money out of those wishing to take there test.
quote:When I passed my test just over 20 years ago.... It took me eight hours, eight driving lessons to reach the required level before I passed my test.... most of my friends who I asked who took there tests 10 or more years ago on average passed there tests after around ten hours of tuition.
quote: My daughter is currently learning to drive and these days they reckon on average it takes about 35 hours for average 18/19 year old at £24 UK pounds an hour before they reach the required standard.
quote:Why the difference?Itís almost the same test with just one extra reversing manoeuvre, almost the same standard of driving required...
quote:...but why the extra 25 hours of tuition and now at 24 pounds an hour. Itís a lot of money. Itís a big con if you ask me.
quote:How many hours of tuition did it take you before you were allowed to take your test and then pass(hopefully) and what year did you take it in.
quote:Is there much diference in other countries
quote:Originally posted by sdellaIt is a rip off in Germany too if you ask me. I did my driving licence in Germany last year and paid 24 Euros per lesson (45 min). I had to do over 35 hours and I had to pay as well around 200 Euros for my book and for the exams!I guess they are digging out money from everywhere!In Greece though my friends said that they paid max 15 Euros per lesson and they did up to 15-20 lessons. Also the exam fees were lower.
quote:ORIGINALLY POSTED BY THE CHIEFI hope you understand the basis of my argument here and I suppose I should inform you that I am with the Traffic Dept of the Police
quote:...in order to see if my opinions were just or not...
quote:Originally posted by bigtimIt is a farce. They don't teach you to drive either; they teach you to pass a test and then you can learn how to drive properly.25 lessons gone, nearly ready for test.Big Tim
quote:Originally posted by chrisSo The Chief - have you ever felt compelled to drive at 158 mph to "familiarise" yourself with your car ?Just curious...Chris"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception" - Groucho Marx
quote:TonyWhen legislation arrives requiring every driver to retake their driving test at regular intervals, the comments we can see on this and other message boards from know it all drivers will soon dry up and maybe we'll find our roads are far safer.