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quote:Originally posted by Andrew K FletcherThis planet is productive enough to support a massive population many times the size we are at present.
quote: Mis-management of land and resources is where we are screwing up. Address the problems of environmental decay and solve the other problems by doing so.
quote:Originally posted by VAlibrarianI will admit that the demographic shift that will result in a smaller number of young people supporting a larger number of aging people is a potential economic problem. But I would argue that it is a "challenge" rather than a hole in the ground dug by ourselves. Why so? Because in a finite system such as planet Earth, a deceleration of population growth has always been inevitable. The only other choice was to continue to grow the human population until most of us starved, and that option is not appetizing to me.
quote:Would I care about the possible impact of climate change on future generations if those generations included none of my descendants? Probably less than I do. Silly perhaps, but there it is. What I find odd is that many people with half a dozen grandkids apparently have no concern at all that climate change may have a negative impact on those grandkids, or the grandkids of the grandkids.
quote:Originally posted by Andrew K Fletcherhttp://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778851.html Link to some useful stats on deserts.One third of the World's land mass is desert. However, desertification in progress, scrubland and marginal lands are not included in this figure, nor are the airport runways, urbanised areas, tarmac and concrete roads, polluted areas, open cast mines, and the spoils from mining dumped on to the surface to create wastelands. I mention the latter to put things in prospective.There are plants that can be grown in dry lands, which can produce bio fuels in abundance. arabidopsis being one, and oil bearing seed plants being another. Methanol production could solve some of the fossil fuel dependence. Fermenting human waste and farm waste to produce methane, leaving behind a valuable fertilizer free of pathogens another.But reforesting massive desert areas with sewage and waste water from the main polluting nations solves many of our main ill-managed land problems and addresses many of the impending problems with global warming, feeding the starving, providing work, and providing vast areas to grow biomass and bio fuels.
quote:Originally posted by i_have_no_ideaI dont believe in global warming.
quote:Originally posted by VAlibrarianIf however you criticize the academic community as having ulterior motives for their opinion that global warming is being accelerated by human activities, please have the grace to admit that Corporations and individuals who have a vested interest in the continuation of the petroleum based transportation economy are equally likely (if not more likely) to have their opinions formed by their naked self interest. George Bush's public position regarding global warming has clearly been part of a quid pro quo for the massive investment that the oil industry made in his two election campaigns. So who to trust? I will trust the scientists before I trust the pseudo scientists who claim that they know more about science than the scientists do. You are entitled to trust who you prefer.chris wiegard
quote:Poor communication and the absence of doctors on August leave were among the factors behind France's heatwave tragedy, an official report has found. The 35-hour week also contributed, says the inquiry, set up to examine why more than 11,400 people died. The report describes what happened as a "health catastrophe". It found that health authorities were not fully aware of the unfolding crisis on the ground. Many of the dead were elderly people, unable to cope as temperatures soared to 40C (104F). It suggests better organisation of the healthcare system, liaison between weather services, hospitals and those caring for the elderly, and better provision of beds for elderly patients. "An adequate alert, watch and information system would have allowed those involved to act more quickly in implementing measures to adapt the health care system, " said the report. France's surgeon-general resigned last month after ministers publicly blamed his department for failing to alert them to the crisis. On Monday, officials in the Netherlands said as many as 1,400 Dutch people died in the heatwave between June and August. The total is up on an earlier Dutch official estimate that between 500 and 1,000 people died. In August - the peak of the extreme heat - temperatures repeatedly topped 30C, in a country where the average would normally have been 22C (72F).