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quote:Originally posted by SearcherNo living creature is born with knowledge[:0]
quote:Originally posted by Dr BAn interesting question must about the first webs. This is where it gets interesting. How does a new behaviour appear ...
quote:Originally posted by ukmickyThe same way as a turtle heads for the sea. Its a natural survival instinct, a memory which doesn't have to be learnt. Its automatically copied over into every new generation but can be upgraded and changed through genetic flaws, new instructions , additions to the program and with the help of natural selection,which is natures way of deciding whether its a worthwhile addition to keep.Does that make senseMichael HAPPY NEW YEAR
quote:Originally posted by ukmickyif that were true it wouldn't really matter because its still a natural instinct telling it what to do.
quote:and or a really big but if i may, not all turtles hatch out during the hours of darkness some late stragglers hatch out when its light and still head for the sea.
quote:Originally posted by ukmickyThe same way as a turtle heads for the sea. Its a natural survival instinct, a memory which doesn't have to be learnt. Its automatically copied over into every new generation but can be upgraded and changed through genetic flaws, new instructions , additions to the program and with the help of natural selection,which is natures way of deciding whether its a worthwhile addition to keep.
quote:Originally posted by SearcherIf this is true what differentiates between instinct memory and learnt memory.[?] Why doesn't learnt memory become instinct memory and passed on to its offspring.[?]
quote:We know this is not true in higher forms of life because we are not born knowing E=MC^2 we have to be taught that. Which brings me to: where does the original knowledge or idea come from in the first place.[?] Was it always there waiting for someone to pick it up, or was it created by a figment of someones imagination.
quote:By the way don't you guys ever sleep.[:0]
quote:[The difference between instinct memory of memories learnt within one's lifetime is the period of time over which the are learnt. To learn something within your life could take you a few minutes or hours. To learn something that will be inherited from one generation to the next will take several generations to learn. I suppose you could argue it is a manifestation of the tendency that if you want something to last longer, you need to spend more time constructing it.
quote:If this is true what differentiates between instinct memory and learnt memory. Why doesn't learnt memory become instinct memory and passed on to its offspring.
quote:Originally posted by SearcherHow does a spider KNOW how to make a web[?] No living creature is born with knowledge[:0] and the spider is not taught as it is born alone, so how does it build a complex piece of engineering without any prior knowledge.
quote:Originally posted by SearcherMy great great great grandfather was a very famous scientist.I was not born with his knowledge I had to be taught it like anyone else. My daughters although they have heard of him, don't know much about his theories having not been taught science to that extent. They only know what I have told them. Like my grandfather I have studied science, chemisty / physics, (not his subject) and was always taught to keep an open mind. I was once told never accept anything you are told as the absolute truth and only believe half of what you see as the truth.If what you say and believe is true, then Inherited memory takes not several generations to aquire but thousands of years and then if at all. Evolution is a very slow process. It appears that the higher the life form the slower the process and the more it relies on learning from others. We are less reliant on instinct than our ancestors to survive so if we don't use it we loose it I suppose.I still believe there is a missing factor somewhere hidden in the DNA that we haven't discovered yet. So I ask questions and get the opinions of others to get somewhere near the truth. Yes the truth is out there, but the point is will we able to recognise it as such when we see it.