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quote:Originally posted by neilepAlways after a curry I do a UFO in the loo !!I have no doubt that Alien spacecraft exist...can't believe that in the entire cosmos it's just us that are capable of spaceflight.Because of the timescale of things it's possible (probable) that there have been many space bearing civilisations before we came along...and I am sure they are out there somewhere.Men are the same as women.... just inside out !!
quote:Originally posted by another_someoneTo say that we have the capability to travel to our moon, and send unmanned spacecraft to periphery of our solar system, scarcely amounts to space travel, on the scale of interstellar, let alone inter galactic, space travel.
quote:Originally posted by ukmickyDamn you Neil.. how could you. you promised, it was a secret. It just goes to show, you should never trust a man who's jealous. It's not my fault my ships bigger than yoursMichael HAPPY NEW YEAR
quote:Originally posted by tony6789Ok the question i mean is could aliens be real and are they amoung us?
quote:Originally posted by BigBenBesides if they are smart enough to travel through space why would they bother with us stupid humans
quote:they are probley observing our progress. to see how we progress
quote:Originally posted by another_someonequote:Originally posted by tony6789Ok the question i mean is could aliens be real and are they amoung us?OK, UFO's and aliens are slightly different things.What I mean is that a UFO is merely a flying object – maybe an alien flying object – but it's up there, not down here.An alien amongst us is something down here, however it got here.Even if extraterrestrial aliens were to exist, and even if they could somehow travel the vast distances from their home planet, it would seem incredibly unlikely that they would look anything like us.Could one of the life forms that exist on this planet have originated on another planet – it is theoretically possible (whether plausible is another matter). The more primitive life forms could probably have survived the journey easier (e.g. just as we have already launched unmanned space craft to our nearest neighbouring star, so maybe some unmanned spacecraft landed here, and hitching a ride aboard may have been some primitive single cellular life form). It could even be that the primitive life did not arrive here about a specially constructed space craft, but on an interstellar meteor that somehow got ejected from its own solar system.In fact, one of the questions I had often wondered is, if we do find primitive life on Mars, can we be sure that it is native to Mars, or could it have arrived as a contaminant aboard some earlier unmanned mission to Mars?Could there be higher order life that is regularly visiting this planet?Unless it has found a way to travel faster than the speed of light, then either the visits would have to be very infrequent, or they must have a home planet that is very close. If it takes a million years to travel each way, then clearly a single space ship could not have made even a single round trip in all the time that homo sapiens have inhabited this planet.
quote:Originally posted by tony6789Does any one besides me belive they are real?
quote:Originally posted by tony6789What i mean is aliens are THEY amoung us?
quote:Originally posted by tony6789they are probley observing our progress. to see how we progress
quote:Originally posted by another_someoneCould there be higher order life that is regularly visiting this planet?Unless it has found a way to travel faster than the speed of light, then either the visits would have to be very infrequent, or they must have a home planet that is very close. If it takes a million years to travel each way, then clearly a single space ship could not have made even a single round trip in all the time that homo sapiens have inhabited this planet.
quote:Originally posted by nannhamIf they ... whoever 'they' are ... are in a craft travelling at 98 to 99% of the speed of light, due to time dilation their ship time factor will be a lot shorter than their port time factor ...
quote:They could get here well within their own lifetime ... if their starting point was, say, from 4 to 35 lightyears from here ...
quote:Here's another idea ... what if they came here once only ... long ago ... and their original craft is orbiting one of the moons of Saturn, for example ... and serves as a habitat for subsequent generations of their kind ...
quote:Regular trips into Earth orbit, probes into our atmosphere, would then be plausable ....
A friend of mine mentioned that it seems like claims of UFO sightings, especially close up encounters, have significantly decreased as the popularity of cell phones with camaras has increased.
Besides if they are smart enough to travel through space why would they bother with us stupid humans
I suspect [ball lightning, etc] are spiritual in nature. I don't believe in aliens .... Seems silly.
The aliens know we have a lot more cameras. They can see the ads on the telly too. Now, they only land their UFOs at night in Loch Ness.
...... I suspect they are spiritual in nature........
...claims of UFO sightings...
Would that advanced civilization have any useful reason to spend the enormous amount of time and energy required to travel across all those light years to get here. Almost certainly not.
2. Interstellar travel is practical (requires some new physics)
Given the age of the galaxy and two assumptions: 1. Intelligent life is not a phenomenon unique to the earth