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So you think the climate scientist are reminiscing over the weather they remember from their youth Clifford?
Geezer, I wrote some here when I first come, it's some years old but not worse than 2007 I guess? Check it up, it's all true. I tried to collect sources that people wouldn't call conspiratorial, like some do about real climate for example. Which is a joke as some of the best climate scientists in the world write there. And all trying desperately not to say anything drastic as they learnt that any extrapolation stepping over the scientific bounds will get the interests wanting us to keep consuming water on their watermills as we say in Sweden. I don't really care about you and me, but I feel sorry for our kids, and their kids.
And Clifford, what are you trying to prove?
For a while I've been trying to understand the Global Warming/Climate Change debate, in particularly with respect to CO2. My conclusion is that some aspects match the CO2 hypothesis, but many don't. The critical nature of the problem seems to be less clear.
What irks me is the way it is dealt with, the 'green' measures levied on us to encourage us all to be green. Tax on cars, fuel duty, adverts on the carbon footprint and recyling etc etc. If I turned my standby button off, turned off all appliances, saved water and recycled everything that came into my house, it would make no difference. If every household in Britain did the same, it would barely make a dent in C02 output.
I'm bit surprised to hear they still have industries in Britain. I thought they got rid of them already 
Quote from: yor_on on 09/01/2011 08:58:42And Clifford, what are you trying to prove?For a while I've been trying to understand the Global Warming/Climate Change debate, in particularly with respect to CO2. My conclusion is that some aspects match the CO2 hypothesis, but many don't. The critical nature of the problem seems to be less clear.Anyway, the question that began this topic was essentially "Why was it so damn cold in Europe last December". So, I've been waiting for the "global warming" reports for December to come out... as well as trying to understand some of the local and global influences.And... to my surprise (in part)... December actually had a lower Global temperature anomaly than previous months, although not enough to account for reports of it being the coldest month in over a century. And, obviously a few month long cooling trend isn't significant overall.
So no, I don't think long term planning is humanity's forte
Since I posted my initial enquiry two months ago it now appears our weather in the UK (Norwich) is warmer than expected - being 11 deg C - not expected for early February!I am curious to know why our seasons appear to be earlier - in August the weather was more like that of Autumn/Fall now it is more like Spring! Is our planet changing the way it orbits the Sun or is it something else?