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Man as old as coal Ed Conrad's findings
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Andrew K Fletcher
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Man as old as coal Ed Conrad's findings
27/02/2006 12:17:40 »
"seems like ages ago when I first found Ed Conrad's website and gasped in awe at his findings inside an open cast coal mine.
Thought you guys n gals would like to take the same amazing trip to Ed Conrad's site as I did.
This is his recent post in the groups.
By Donald R. Serfass
Lehighton (Pa.) Times News
SHENANDOAH -- If still water runs deep, Ed Conrad is an ocean.
Polite and friendly, he's a mild-mannered gentleman with a calming
voice. A fatherly type with a heart of gold.
But he's also much deeper. He's intense and pensive. A relentless
fighter with endless stamina. he has broad shoulders and determination
as enduring as granite.
Over the past 25 years, he's taken on scientists, universities and
even the Smithsonian Institution in trying to correct what he feels is
a gross injustice.
Conrad has discovered thousands of fossilized specimens that
he says are bones, teeth, soft tissue and even a petrified brain. They
were found between anthracite coal seams around Mahanoy City,
Shenandoah and Hazleton.
What that proves, he says, is that man -- or a close predecessor --
walked the Earth when coal was being formed during the Carboniferous
Period some 280 million years ago. That statement contradicts
established science and Conrad is trying to set the record straight.
> SOME PETRIFIED HUMAN REMAINS
So when science tries to say that humans and pre-humans evolved
on Earth no more than 65 million years ago, Conrad begs to differ. The
proof shows otherwise, he says.
The issue matters to him because he's a man of principle. He says
the final chapter has not been written and the real story needs to be
"I'm in it for the truth," he says.
Actually, Conrad's quest for man's origins began as a quiet
discovery in June 1981 when he stumbled upon what appeared to be
a petrified human skull while searching for fern fossils.
Conrad was invited to take the find to Washington, D.C., where he
journeyed with close pal and amateur geologist Clayton Lennon,
There, Smithsonian representatives performed a cursory examination
and dismissed the specimen as a "concretion," or rock.
However, Conrad wasn't satisfied. He probed the skull's jaw-like
interior and found soft dirt and what two hardened objects (which
turned out to be a canine and premolar tooth). He then consulted
Wilton Krogman, author of ''The Human Skeleton in Forensic Medicine''
and a world-reknowned expert in the field of human comparative
Krogman confirmed that one he was shown was a premolar because
it revealed a pair of cusps -- and his declaration proved to be the
shot in the arm that spurned him onward.
"I had met with Dr. Krogman about a month after being shot down by
the Smithsonian," recalls Conrad, a veteran journalist who has a
writer and/or editor at newspapers in Philadelphia and Montreal, and
currently writes for the Hazleton (Pa.) Standard-Speaker.
Krogman, now deceased, was quite excited about Conrad's discovery
and kept in touch.
"Man, oh, man! You've got something that will go down in the book of
human paleontology. Hominid teeth and 'mammalian bone' add up to
an unbeatable combination," he wrote to Conrad on Jan. 3, 1984.
But not all experts embraced the discovery. Far from it. Many
scoffed. They said Conrad's quest was preposterous. They likened
Conrad to a modern-day Don Quixote, taking up a hopeless gauntlet
against the lofty windmills of science.
"I do NOT think you have a fossil. I think it is incredible that
anyone familiar with fossils would. Any further communication would
waste both of our times," wrote David Pilbeam, anthropology professor
at Harvard University.
"No scientist in his right mind would attempt to speculate on
something as unusual as you suggest," said John G. Maisey, assistant
curator of the Department of Vertebrate Paleontology, American Museum
of Natural History.
On the other hand, one of Conrad's former teachers offered
encouragement: "It's easy to see why the so-called experts are
confused. Your main problem is that you have outrun the limits of
their knowledge. What you have makes them uncomfortable. Much
of what they have been teaching will have to be undone (if you're
Critics claimed that the fossilized specimens appear to lack
Haversian canals, or tiny, imbedded tunnels that are an integral part
of the cell structure of bone.
But Conrad felt that the specimens were never properly examined and
were never exposed to honest, objective testing. Even worse, he soon
found that he and his discovery were being shunned, even blackballed,
by the scientific community.
It seemed as though they had turned a deaf ear, something which
Conrad said didn't make sense in a field supposedly open to discovery.
But attempted intimidation didn't stop Conrad from developing a
theory about man's very early existence.
"Man and animals had one thing in common. Both were annihilated in
some incredible catastrophe that blew them limb from limb and
scattered their bones, teeth and soft organs in all directions," he
> OTHER DISCOVERIES BETWEEN COAL VEINS
Conrad studied underground mining maps showing coal veins which
definitely reflect early turbulence. On top of that, they had been
violently disrupted in the same place where most of the fossils finds
Then Conrad came upon what appeared to be additional corroboration
from scientist and author Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky. More than a
half-century ago, Velikovsky said "the true story of the history of
Earth and man is written in the rocks, visible for all to see as part
of the fossil record."
Specifically, Velikovsky believed that a cataclysmic event took
place on Earth, which he believed had been impacted by planet Venus.
His highly controversial thoughts are expressed in two of his books,
'Worlds in Collision' and 'Earth in Upheaval.'
"A catastrophe occurred and hydrocarbons rained on the earth. That
resulted in the formation of oil and coal," says Conrad, explaining
Velikovsky's theories. " That dramatic event transformed the planet."
"It was worse than an earthquake. It might have been an asteroid
hitting Earth. The catastrophe occurred and the bones were deposited
here," he says, explaining that it scattered bones in such a way that
he has not found a single skeleton intact.
Conrad has since had tests performed on his specimens. The
examinations included X-rays, infra-red scans and CAT scans.
The results differ greatly from what Conrad was told earlier by
those who dismissed the finds as rocks or nodules. He has posted his
findings on a Web site), revealing not only his discoveries but his
frustration with academia and science.
As for why the scientific community chooses to turn its back, it's
anyone's guess. Conrad accuses the establishment of deceit, collusion
and conspiracy. He backs up his accusations with a two-decade journal
of facts and details explained on his Web site.
"There's something behind it all. A true scientist searches for the
truth no matter where it leads," he says. "What's so wrong to believe
that man existed 280 million years ago? Why is that a sin?"
Some say it's a matter of money. There are millions of dollars in
government grants, research projects and school funding based on the
teaching of the theory of evolution.
To pull out the rug from under those practices would be tantamount
to shaking up government, academia and science, or "pseudoscience,"
as Conrad calls it.
Ironically, early in the quest, Conrad's friend Lennon advised that
the road to the truth would be a rough road to travel, especially when
dealing with those who will not listen.
"They know they have a skeleton in their closet and they don't want
to open the door," Lennon would say.
For Conrad, Lennon's words proved prophetic.
"It's a shame that evolution has caught on," he says. "If man
existed during the Carboniferous Period, it offers proof that we could
not possibly have evolved as suggested by the Darwin Theory. Rightly
so, because the theory of evolution never possessed a shred
of physical evidence in the first place."
Conrad has been unwavering as he presses onward. He's hit many
a roadblock. For one, many of his 26 sites are no longer available.
He's lost half of the most productive localities due to ongoing fly
He's also encountered heartbreak. Sadly, Clayton Lennon, Conrad's
devoted friend, passed away in 1996 at the venerable age of 96. But
it's never easy to lose a kindred spirit, no matter what age and
Conrad feels the loss deeply.>
"He was my inspiration," he says.
But carrying the torch onward, Conrad continues the quest.
He's never faltered. His goal is to win the war, not only the battles.
He hopes the day will come when a museum devoted to the fossils
can be established someplace in the coal region. In the meantime,
his discoveries have received notoriety abroad.
> SOME FAVORABLE SCIENTIFIC TEST RESULTS
Yerkes Regional Primate Research Center
American Medical Laboratories
CATscan performed on petrified premolar
Scanning Electron Microscopy performed on petrified tibia
Presence of Haversian canals (Microscopic photo of ground section)
Over the past 18 months, Conrad has traveled to Switzerland and
Germany where many of his fossil exhibits were displayed at
international science shows.
Next year, Japan is expected to feature his discoveries and Conrad
will be there to take part, God willing.
Is it fair to call him a creationist?
No, he says. Besides, his mission is not about labeling people.
"I DO believe in a Creator but I'm not a creationist per se and I'm
not an evolutionist. I'm just someone searching for the truth."
Like a prizefighter, Ed Conrad spars inside the ring of scientific
scrutiny, always fighting the good fight. Never backing down.
The truth will emerge, he says. Its time will come.
And when it does, it'll be solid as a rock.
NOTE: Ed Conrad's Web page --
has had almost 213,000 hits. His unrelenting battle against
the Scientific Establishment is also detailed in the Google
news groups. Ed's email address is firstname.lastname@example.org
> ANTHROPOLOGY ASSOCIATIONS, SOCIETIES, ETC.
American Anthropological Association
American Association of Physical Anthropologists
Archaeological Institute of America
Association for Feminist Anthropology
Association of Black Anthropologists
Association of Latina and Latino Anthropologists
Human Biology Association
Society for American Archaeology
Society for Historical Archaeology
Society for Archaeological Sciences
Society for Applied Anthropology
Society for Economic Anthropology
Society for Ethnomusicology
> UNITED STATES (REGIONAL)
Northeastern Anthropological Association
Eastern States Archaeological Federation
Council for Northeast Historical Archaeology
Archaeological Society of Connecticut
Maine Archaeological Society
Massachusetts Archaeological Society
New Hampshire Archeological Society
New York State Archaeological Association
Vermont Archaeological Society
> INTERNATIONAL ANTHROPOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS
International Union of Anthropological and Ethnological Sciences
Canadian Sociology and Anthropology Association
Societe canadienne de sociologie et d'anthropologie
Canadian Archaeological Association
Canadian Anthropology Society
Royal Anthropological Institute (UK)
Association of Social Anthropologists of U.K. and the Commonwealth
European Association of Social Anthropologists
Association of Social Anthropologists of Aoteaora/NewZealand
Council for British Archaeology
Society for Industrial Archaeology
Society of Africanist Archaeologists
Link to the Directory of Archaeological Societies and Journals (1999)
< NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUMS
Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia
Alaska Museum of Natural History
Alaska State Museums, Juneau, Alaska
Albany Museum, Rhodes University, Grahamston, South Africa
The Raymond M. Alf Museum of Paleontology, Claremont, Calif
American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York
Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum
Australian Museum Online
Australian National Botanical Garden
Berkeley Natural History Museums consortium, Berkeley, California
Bernice Bishop Museum, Honolulu, Hawaii
Bob Campbell Geology Museum, Clemson University
Buena Vista Museum of Natural History
Burke Museum, University of Washington, Seattle
The California Academy of Sciences
Canadian Museum of Nature
Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Centennial Museum, University of Texas at El Paso
The Notebaert Nature Museum, Chicago, Illinois
Chula Vista Nature Center, Chula Vista, California
Cincinnati Museum Center, Cincinnati, Ohio
City of Santa Cruz Museum of Natural History
Cleveland Museum of Natural History, Cleveland, Ohio
College of Eastern Utah Prehistoric Museum
Connecticut State Museum of Natural History
Cumberland Lodge, Museum, and Center for Leadership Studies,
Dallas Museum of Natural History
Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Denver, Colorado
Johnston Geology Museum, Emporia, Kansas
Essig Museum of Entomology, University of California, Berkeley
Fernbank Museum of Natural History, Atlanta, Georgia
Fick Fossil and History Museum, Oakley, Kansas
The Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago
Finnish Museum of Natural History: Botanical Museum
The Florida Museum of Natural History
Georgia Museum of Natural History
Harvard Museum of Natural History
Haus der Natur, Cismar, Germany
Haus der Natur, Salzburg, Austria
The High Desert Museum, Bend, Oregon
Honolulu Community College Dinosaur Exhibit, Honolulu, Hawaii
Hooper Virtual Paleontological Museum, Canada
Houston Museum of Natural Science
Humboldt State University Natural History Museum, Humboldt, California
Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery, Glasgow, Scotland
Illinois Natural History Survey
Illinois State Museum
Institute of Systematics, Evolution of Animals, Polish Academy of
Kansas University Natural History Museum, Lawrence, Kansas
Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History
Louisiana State University Museum of Natural Science
Manchester Museum, University of Manchester, England
Massachusetts Museum of Natural History, University of Massachusetts
Milwaukee Public Museum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Missouri Botanical Garden
Monterey Bay Aquarium, Monterey, California
Montshire Museum of Science, Norwich, Vermont
Musée de Minéralogie, Êcole des Mines, Paris
Musée d'Histoire Naturelle, Fribourg, Switzerland
Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle, Paris, France
Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle,Luxembourg
Muséum d'Histoire Naturelle de Genève (Natural History), Geneva
Museo di Storia Naturale di Firenze, Firenze (Florence), Italy
Museo di Storia Naturale dell'Università di Pisa, Italy
Museo Mundo de Ambar, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales de Madrid
Museo Tridentino di Scienze Naturali, Trento, Italy
Museon, Den Haag (The Hague), Netherlands
Museum of Natural History - Cormack Planetarium, Providence, RI
Museums of Natural History, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Museum of Natural Sciences, Brussels, Belgium
Museum of Southwestern Biology, University of New Mexico
Museum of Vertebrate Zoology, University of California, Berkeley
Museum of Victoria, Melbourne, Australia
National Museum of Natural History: Naturalis, Leiden, Netherlands
The Natural History Museum, Berne, Switzerland
The Natural History Museum, London
Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht, The Netherlands
Natuurmuseum Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Neanderthal Museum, Mettmann, Germany
New England Aquarium, Boston, Massachusetts
The New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science
The New York State Museum
Nichols Arboretum, University of Michigan
North Carolina Museum of Life and Science
The North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences
Nova Scotia Museum
The Oakland Museum of California, Oakland, California
The Oklahoma Biological Survey
Oklahoma Museum of Natural History
Pacific Grove Museum of Natural History, Monterey County, Cal.
Paleontological Museum, University of Oslo, Norway
The Peabody Museum of Natural History, Yale University
Pratt Museum of Natural History, Amherst College
Provincial Museum of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
The Rankin Museum of American and Natural History
The Raptor Center, University of Minnesota
Redpath Museum, McGill University, Montréal, Qué., Canada
The Royal British Columbia Museum
The Royal Ontario Museum (ROM), Toronto
The Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology, Alberta, Canada
San Diego Natural History Museum, San Diego, California
Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History
Satrosphere , Aberdeen, Scotland
Senckenberg Natural History Museum, Frankfurt, Germany
Sierra College Natural History Museum
The Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History
St. Louis Science Center
Staatliches Museum für Naturkunde, Stuttgart, Germany
State Darwin Museum, Moscow, Russia
Birch Aquarium-Museum, Scripps Institute of Oceanography
Sternberg Museum of Natural History
Stoke-on-Trent City Museum
Mayborn Museum Complex, Baylor University
The Swedish Museum of Natural History
Tallahassee Museum of History and Natural Science
Tate Geological Museum, Casper, Wyoming
The Tennessee Aquarium, Chattanooga, Tennessee
The Texas Memorial Museum, University of Texas at Austin
Teylers Museum, Haarlem, The Netherlands
University of Alaska Museum, Fairbanks, Alaska
University of Alberta Museum of Zoology
University of California Museum of Paleontology
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
University of Michigan Museum of Paleontology
University of Michigan Museum of Zoology
University of Michigan Exhibit Museum of Natural History
University of Nebraska State Museum, Lincoln, Nebraska
University of Oregon Museum of Natural History
University of Washington Fish Collection
University of Wisconsin-Madison Geology Museum
University of Wyoming Geological Museum
The Vanderbilt Museum, Centerport, Long Island, New York
The Virginia Living Museum, Newport News, Virginia
Virginia Marine Science Museum, Hampton Roads, Virginia
Virginia Museum of Natural History
Virginia Museum of Natural History, Virginia Tech branch
Voralberger Naturschau Dornbirn, Dornbirn, Austria
Worldwide Museum of Natural History
Wyoming Dinosaur Center, Thermopolis, Wyoming
Zoological Museum of University of Amsterdam, Netherlands
Zoological Museum of the University of Copenhagen, Denmark
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