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Take a look here for a more balanced view how the power station problems are being dealt with.http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html
Some are talking about burying the plant under concrete, my issue with that, is that first it never worked in Chernobyl, second there are many reactors here and they would letting them all melt down under the concrete, which would then heavily pollute the earth below all the waste rods and the current active rods would melt. Third or fourth that Japan is a tiny island and shouldn't have any amount of it's land lost.So my question is what do you all think the best answer is here?
Quote from: Wiybit on 23/03/2011 04:55:20Some are talking about burying the plant under concrete, my issue with that, is that first it never worked in Chernobyl, second there are many reactors here and they would letting them all melt down under the concrete, which would then heavily pollute the earth below all the waste rods and the current active rods would melt. Third or fourth that Japan is a tiny island and shouldn't have any amount of it's land lost.So my question is what do you all think the best answer is here?It worked reasonably well in Chernobyl. The problem there is mainly the radioactive material that escaped before they could plug it with concrete.
There's no reason that the reactors will melt down. The nuclear reactors have been shut down since before the tsunami stuck. They are now kept warm by the decay heat of the waste products. This decay heat will dissipate reasonably quickly. After that there's no heat source to melt them so, as long as they wait a while before pouring the concrete there's no chance of a melt down.
Once it's buried under a layer of concrete there's no reason, in principle, why you couldn't re use the land. Since it will obviously be a hill, perhaps one use for it would be as "high ground" for people to run to if there's another tsunami.
Wybit.Never trust anyone who is introduced by the media as someone with a book to sell.In any event, we will see what happens. Presumably, if they close down the plant without the predicted "fire and brimstone" you will come back and apologise.
Just for a start, this "Once they start melting they start melting, they have already had parcial melt downs," is a contradiction in terms."No they will have to do they same thing that did at chenobyl, and today they are building a new protective building, that it is said, will last for the next 100 years in preventing any radiation realease, not forgetting that under ground the radiation can still spread."Do you understand that Chernobyl was a much bigger accident?
Time we put people, before profit!
Quote from: Wiybit on 23/03/2011 23:43:41Time we put people, before profit!That seems like a gigantic oversimplification. People actually want electricity, and they want it at a reasonable price. Please try to support your argument with scientific evidence.
lol @ "worse than Chernobyl"Chernobyl had a graphite core which caught fire and exploded with no containment structure. Modern nuclear reactors are vastly different.
"they are lying about the radiation level "http://xkcd.com/285/
"This is worse then Chenobyl, As for not trusting people that write books, You referenced your own book, on the other thread, maybe I should take your advice, but actually some people write books, not to make money but because they care about an issue, so I'll ignore that."Oddly there is no book on sale with my name on it so what other thread do you mean?What book do you mean?
"Natural background levels of carbon monoxide range between 0.009–0.0198ppm".....In my book, levels measured in parts per billion are trace levels, and I'm an analytical chemist, specialising in measuring stuff in air.
If some doom merchants are to be beleived the power station problem is a worst disaster than the tsunami and earthquake !!!
Chenobyl killed around a million people, depending who you ask.
Quote from: Wiybit on 24/03/2011 17:12:49Chenobyl killed around a million people, depending who you ask.CITATION NEEDED! and yes I meant to shout.
Ah yes! We seem to have the makings of yet another conspiracy theory here.
Alex Jones on the radiation leaks his demo with water at 08.47http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PL2K8fmlcU&feature=channel_video_title
OK, someone who doesn't recognise a metaphorical book when he sees one and cites the daily mail as evidence.LOL
Quote from: Wiybit on 23/03/2011 23:43:41Alex Jones on the radiation leaks his demo with water at 08.47http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PL2K8fmlcU&feature=channel_video_titleAh, that Alex Jones! A conspiracy theorist nutter who believes that the "Bohemian Grove" club sacrifices children and worships Satan.I don't think I'll bother with this thread.
OK, never mind who you cite.You say a million died because of Chernobyl.For the sake of this debate let's accept that figure.You also say that the latest problem in Japan is worse.In order for you to be sure that's true there must be more than a million dead in Japan.Do you really believe that, or had you just not thought it through?Ten Hiroshimas worth of deaths in a couple of weeks and they are keeping it a secret?
I need to remind you that the most religious of people His Holiness the Pope gets elected and does most of his business behind closed doors and the Vatican library is inaccessible and locked to nearly all individuals. But that's going off topic and all I can say is when people on a forum resort to name calling then its because thy have already lost the argument.Now, I'm going as I have an effigy to burn!