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Offline lvs (OP)

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can machines chat?
« on: 24/04/2006 07:30:02 »
While I am busy can i ask my computer to take over chatting with my friends? Do you think my machine can ever have the intelligence to chat with people without their knowing that it is a machine they are chatting with?

I put down my thoughts in this blog. Please read and send me your comments:
newbielink:http://indradhanush-laal.blogspot.com/ [nonactive]


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Re: can machines chat?
« Reply #1 on: 24/04/2006 22:17:38 »
i think the email to add is actually called smarterchild@hotmail.com.

Is it possible for a computer to emulate, using software, a brain? Since the fundamental way a brain works is by firing neural nets  that have been constructed through a lifetime of linking certain thoughts together, couldn't a computer create a model of a brain, even if it may be primitive, that would be able to react to stimuli the way a less intelligent organism (e.g.mouse) does? If so there is a possibility that the technology would advance to emulate a fully developed human brain.

I think that it will be possible to create an intelligent computer in the future, when we know more about how our intelligence works.

There is a test aswell, i seem to remember called the Turing Test, created by Alan Turing, ho most see as the father of the computer. This test was created in about 1940 (i think) and it is an example of a conversation that the the computer should be able to do if is to be recognised as intelligent.

"Knowledge has to be improved, challenged, and increased constantly, or it vanishes." Peter F. Drucker
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Re: can machines chat?
« Reply #2 on: 25/04/2006 00:32:20 »
I think I a short 20 - 30 years time computers could be made to sound indigent but it will be a long time before they will be able to show real humour. I think that is the test of real intelligent thought. If they can do that we better pull the plug.    

What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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« Reply #3 on: 25/04/2006 00:56:24 »
The problem with computers is not a lack of intelligence, it is a lack of knowledge.

It is relatively not that difficult to get a computer to create a form of words that looks like they came from a human being, the problem is that if the computer lacks the humans experience, then it will lack the knowledge to include within the form of words.

To get a computer that talks back in a relatively simple way is one thing, but to tell a computer that it is your birthday next week, and the computer, even if it technically knows that a birthday is an anniversary of a birth, but it lacks an understanding of the customs and practices concerning birthdays, will make the conversation a little bit limited.

Human experience is not just that which can be looked up in an encyclopaedia, but is all about humans interact with their environment, what the see, hear, smell, and touch – and these are experiences that computers presently lack.



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Re: can machines chat?
« Reply #4 on: 26/04/2006 22:57:11 »
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Originally posted by another_someone

The problem with computers is not a lack of intelligence, it is a lack of knowledge.




 I have to disagree I think it is the comply the other way around.

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It is relatively not that difficult to get a computer to create a form of words that looks like they came from a human being, the problem is that if the computer lacks the humans experience, then it will lack the knowledge to include within the form of words.


is this not intelligence that you are saying is behind the words?

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To get a computer that talks back in a relatively simple way is one thing, but to tell a computer that it is your birthday next week, and the computer, even if it technically knows that a birthday is an anniversary of a birth, but it lacks an understanding of the customs and practices concerning birthdays, will make the conversation a little bit limited.


 What is your point ? that the lack of intelligence deduction leads to bad conversation then we are having one now.

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Human experience is not just that which can be looked up in an encyclopaedia, but is all about humans interact with their environment, what the see, hear, smell, and touch – and these are experiences that computers presently lack.


 Are you saying that a person rendered deaf dumb and blind can have a conversion?


What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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Re: can machines chat?
« Reply #5 on: 16/10/2019 09:26:51 »
Quote from: lvs on 24/04/2006 07:30:02
While I am busy can i ask my computer to take over chatting with my friends? Do you think my machine can ever have the intelligence to chat with people without their knowing that it is a machine they are chatting with?
Imagine one day you got so fed-up with your friend and broke your friendship with him. He tried to call you and got answered by your AI with very friendly tone and making casual conversation. The next day he came to you as if nothing had happened thinking you've already forgiven him where in fact it was your AI and you are still angry at him.
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