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Offline Geezer

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Why tinfoil?
« on: 13/10/2011 18:55:05 »
Why do we call tinfoil tinfoil when it is made out of aluminum, or even occasionally, aluminium?
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« Reply #1 on: 13/10/2011 18:59:46 »
Because it was invented by Rin Tin Tin...and to call it Rin-Tin-Tinfoil is silly and wrong !...sheesh !!...obvious isn't it ?  [::)]

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« Reply #2 on: 13/10/2011 19:11:55 »
where's CK? & dont fk with my tinfoil hat cause it worx!= a rose by any other name...

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« Reply #3 on: 13/10/2011 19:15:57 »
...also , when it was invented they could not spell 'aluminium'.....spelling it tin was a lot easier for the doggy !
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« Reply #4 on: 13/10/2011 19:30:14 »
Because the idea is older then the easy availability of aluminium.
They used to make foil from tin, but now aluminium is cheaper.
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« Reply #5 on: 13/10/2011 19:48:50 »
Because the idea is older then the easy availability of aluminium.
They used to make foil from tin, but now aluminium is cheaper.

You'll be telling me hoovers are named after some bloke next!
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« Reply #6 on: 13/10/2011 19:57:50 »
I think it's because they thought tin sounded a lot better because everyone knows that aluminium is highly toxic.
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« Reply #7 on: 13/10/2011 20:06:19 »
...also , when it was invented they could not spell 'aluminium'.....spelling it tin was a lot easier for the doggy !

Obviously since you've added too many I's to the word Aluminum!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: 13/10/2011 20:08:28 »
...also , when it was invented they could not spell 'aluminium'.....spelling it tin was a lot easier for the doggy !

Obviously since you've added too many I's to the word Aluminum!!!!

That must be it! They wanted to avoid a big pissing contest about how to spell it, so they called it tin instead.
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« Reply #9 on: 14/10/2011 05:15:00 »
...also , when it was invented they could not spell 'aluminium'.....spelling it tin was a lot easier for the doggy !

Obviously since you've added too many I's to the word Aluminum!!!!

Just copied and pasted 'Geezers' spelling !  [;D] [:P]
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« Reply #10 on: 14/10/2011 11:56:08 »
Just copied and pasted 'Geezers' spelling !  [;D] [:P]

It's handy you copied and pasted the right spelling then! [::)]

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« Reply #11 on: 14/10/2011 19:23:22 »
Apparently the person who invented the word, Sir Humphry Davy actually had problems with the spelling of the word that he invented, and used both spellings, Aluminum, and Aluminium, thus causing the confusion early on.

In the American pronunciation of the word, the "i" in the last syllable is not pronounced.  In the British pronunciation, it is pronounced which further causes the split in the preferred spellings.

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« Reply #12 on: 14/10/2011 20:11:26 »
Isn't aluminium the way the British both spell and pronounce the word?  Thanks for comments.  Joe L. Ogan

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« Reply #13 on: 14/10/2011 20:12:14 »
Davy originally called it alumium  [:D]
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« Reply #14 on: 17/10/2011 07:06:01 »
Today I was using "Tin Snips" to cut a piece of zinc plated steel.

In the past, I've "Tinned" copper using a tin/lead alloy.

As far as the original question, it turns out there is a Wikipedia Page on it.

So, Tin Foil came before Aluminum foil.  I was actually curious on whether it was tin plated steel, or actually pure tin, and it seems to indicate that it was in fact pure tin.  However, in many senses, the aluminum foil is superior (except, for the Altzheimer's controversy). 

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« Reply #15 on: 17/10/2011 10:10:16 »
cos aluminium foil hat does not have the same ring to it and the following ditty would not work...

http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

our chemistry teacher insisted that aluminum was written al squiggle to avoid arguments about spelling (sorry, this does not work to well when typed...)

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« Reply #16 on: 17/10/2011 19:15:29 »
That's hilarious! Thanks Mazurka.
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« Reply #17 on: 17/10/2011 21:03:27 »
Isn't aluminium the way the British both spell and pronounce the word?  Thanks for comments.  Joe L. Ogan
Yes,
BTW, do Amercans call tin tn or are they fussy about which "i"s they drop?
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« Reply #18 on: 17/10/2011 21:16:33 »
BTW, do Amercans call tin tn or are they fussy about which "i"s they drop?

At least they don't go dropping "h"s all over the joint  [;D]
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« Reply #19 on: 17/10/2011 21:23:57 »
yes the I is dropped from the propper spelling Sn & avoid the Sin by wearing the hat & unlike the brits, we wear hats that work.

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« Reply #20 on: 19/10/2011 18:04:05 »
cos aluminium foil hat does not have the same ring to it and the following ditty would not work...

http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

our chemistry teacher insisted that aluminum was written al squiggle to avoid arguments about spelling (sorry, this does not work to well when typed...)

Oh,
Is that bad?

Perhaps only true Tin Foil hats are effective at blocking aliens from stealing brain waves.  And, those people using aluminum foil hats are just fooling themselves.

I suppose one might as well just go with an old Mercury Hat [:o]

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« Reply #21 on: 19/10/2011 19:20:48 »
cos aluminium foil hat does not have the same ring to it and the following ditty would not work...

http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

our chemistry teacher insisted that aluminum was written al squiggle to avoid arguments about spelling (sorry, this does not work to well when typed...)

Oh,
Is that bad?

Perhaps only true Tin Foil hats are effective at blocking aliens from stealing brain waves.  And, those people using aluminum foil hats are just fooling themselves.

I suppose one might as well just go with an old Mercury Hat [:o]
Is it cold outside?
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« Reply #22 on: 20/10/2011 20:57:24 »
I suppose one might as well just go with an old Mercury Hat [:o]
Is it cold outside?

Mercury Nitrate was used in the production of hats from the late 17th century to the early 20th century, and apparently caused hat makers to go mad due to the chronic exposure to the substance.  And, thus the "Mad Hatter" in Alice & Wonderland.

http://themercurial.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47%3Aof-mercury-and-mad-hatters&Itemid=56

Presumably the remaining dose of mercury in a 100 yr old hat would be minimal.
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« Reply #23 on: 21/10/2011 06:58:37 »
But the point of a tinfoil hat is that it's a Faraday cage so it needs to be conductive. Mercury salts are rather poor conductors. Metallic mercury is a good enough conductor but is ordinarily rather runny. If you get it to about -40 it solidifies.
That's why I asked if it was cold outside.
The mercury in a felt hat might offer some protection from Xrays.
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« Reply #24 on: 21/10/2011 14:52:23 »
so the tin foil hat should be grounded?

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« Reply #25 on: 22/10/2011 07:13:50 »
so the tin foil hat should be grounded?

Only if you want it to double as a lightning conductor. In that case, you need to run some really hefty copper cable inside your trouser legs.
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« Reply #26 on: 22/10/2011 22:42:05 »
Why do we call tinfoil tinfoil when it is made out of aluminum, or even occasionally, aluminium?

I guess the Americans might want the following changes made in the periodic table,

Titanum
Potassum
Calcum
Magnesum
Rubidum
Palladum.....

 [;D] [:D] [;)]
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« Reply #27 on: 22/10/2011 22:53:14 »
Why do we call tinfoil tinfoil when it is made out of aluminum, or even occasionally, aluminium?

I guess the Americans might want the following changes made in the periodic table,

Titanum
Potassum
Calcum
Magnesum
Rubidum
Palladum.....

 [;D] [:D] [;)]

Oh yeah? So I suppose you'll be buying some platinium jewelry then?
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« Reply #28 on: 22/10/2011 23:59:37 »
Oh yeah? So I suppose you'll be buying some platinium jewelry then?

Haha you got me, which is exactly why I left it out!!

How about Platanium?  [:P]
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« Reply #29 on: 23/10/2011 16:37:11 »
and, in line with sulfur, fosforus
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