# sorry for teh problems

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#### daveshorts

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##### sorry for teh problems
« on: 18/12/2011 02:07:44 »
Due to sleep deprivation, and some odd commands I managed to delete yesterdays data, but have restored the previous two weeks, really sorry.
Dave

Should be the end of the problems now... plus hopefully this server is faster

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##### Re: sorry for the problems
« Reply #1 on: 18/12/2011 14:32:12 »
There are a few teething problems,
the personal messages interface has issues with formatting.

which I am working on. If you notice any please tell me and I will see what I can do.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #2 on: 18/12/2011 14:46:13 »
Dave, are you guys planning on changing the style of the TNS forum? Or is this new layout only momentary until you've got it back to before?

As for the rest you've done.
Great work..
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #3 on: 18/12/2011 15:06:18 »

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #4 on: 18/12/2011 15:11:17 »
Dave, are you guys planning on changing the style of the TNS forum? Or is this new layout only momentary until you've got it back to before?

As for the rest you've done.
Great work..

Sorry yes, I wanted to upgrade the forum to a newer version for security reasons, and that came with a new style as getting the exact same old one back would have been even more work than just getting most of the functionality,

the old server crash meant moving it onto the newer forum software in a horrible rush and I didn't have time to warn you. So there will be some teething problems.

On the up side you can now use tex tags if you know any latex to make pretty equations.
$$\frac{\alpha \beta}{\delta x}$$
Code: [Select]
$$\frac{\alpha \beta}{\delta x}$$
And the diagram drawing feature should work a lot better. as long as you are using firefox, chrome or a recent version of ie
[diagram=657_0]

I think I have fixed the personal messages formatting, and recent topics is almost working.

If anything grates tell me and I will see what I can do.
« Last Edit: 18/12/2011 15:14:14 by daveshorts »

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #5 on: 18/12/2011 15:14:58 »
All I can say, is sorry... []

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #6 on: 18/12/2011 17:09:04 »
Imatfaal will luve latex And we others may have to try it too I guess. As for what's 'nagging'.

In FF 4 at least the "« Reply #5 on: Today at 15:14:58 "  on the left sides becomes small and almost unreadable. And it would be nice to have the ability to 'link out' from the thread to "General Discussion & Feedback" from above, as well as down under, the posts..

Well, other than that I don't have much to complain about so far

(There was that check for 'a l0t 0f m0ney' that TNS agreed on sending me yesterday though. A zillion I think it was, give or take a few. But I'm sure you will send it now that I reminded you of it:)
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #7 on: 19/12/2011 00:24:13 »
Thanks for all the hard work.

I kind of liked the pink envelopes...  but, I guess one can get along without them.  The pastel colors???  I suppose it is ok.  I guess I don't see the need for everything to be moving away from nice crisp color schemes.

Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

The "Recent Topics" seems to be better than previously, as I never understood why they were broken down by category earlier.  I'm not sure if the items on the page are being sorted from newest to oldest.  I see there may be some adjustment for the sorting, but that seems to change the time period selection, and visa-versa.  Anyway, I would set the default for "Recent Topics" to be most recent first, and then one would just select the time period default (since last login, or last 2 days).

It looks like the "Draw" function might be almost usable.  I'll have to try it more in the future.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #8 on: 19/12/2011 00:37:03 »
In FF 4 at least the "« Reply #5 on: Today at 15:14:58 "  on the left sides becomes small and almost unreadable.

If you change the "minimum font size" size in FF options from "none" to 9 that text becomes bigger and more readable (see attchment below)
« Last Edit: 19/12/2011 00:41:42 by RD »

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #9 on: 19/12/2011 01:10:44 »
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What happened to the Greek, and all the "scientific" characters in the editor?

Degrees?  °°°°

I liked the fractions, although they weren't vital.

Greek letters, Alpha, Beta, Gama, Sigma, etc...  are useful at times.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #10 on: 19/12/2011 03:05:32 »
Oops...
Another note.

The "Modify" button in the bottom right of the message does not work.

It appears to work.
It just doesn't modify your message (at least for me).

The modify button at the top right is still fine.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #11 on: 19/12/2011 04:29:41 »
Due to sleep deprivation, and some odd commands I managed to delete yesterdays data, but have restored the previous two weeks, really sorry.
Dave

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Recent experiments performed by Dave Shorts have conclusively confirmed the existence of the highly debated onosecond.

The onosecond is usually only manifest during periods of extreme stress, although a common precursor is excessive ingestion of C. arabica. Applying recently developed neurotelemetry techniques, Mr Shorts was able to confirm that the onosecond is the time it takes for the human brain to assimilate information received via the visual cortex to determine that the autodigital response to the "do you really want to delete this?" interrogative is invalid.
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #12 on: 19/12/2011 09:33:51 »
Thanks RD. Worked perfectly.
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #13 on: 19/12/2011 09:39:01 »
"Oh yeah Shortie, trust me, the hand is faster than the eye."

An old Tejan cow-hand saying. Adapted to modern times..

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #14 on: 19/12/2011 11:09:14 »
Well I love the new layout - and as Yoron predicted - I like the fact that we now have latex implementation  (fnaar fnaar).  Have already used it to make pretty version of euler's formula!

Great work over the weekend Dave - may I add my thanks to those of the others for a hard job well done.
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #15 on: 19/12/2011 11:15:32 »
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=40468.0 didn't work for me, although I can see my post if I look in 'my posts' in profile?

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #16 on: 19/12/2011 16:18:15 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

Can I second this?  Although one can get to see 'show posts' though 'Profile' it's not as navigable if you're trying to watch for replies on your threads.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #17 on: 19/12/2011 19:00:43 »
I can't fiend the speelling chequer. I'm doomed. Help!
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #18 on: 19/12/2011 19:13:51 »
I can't fiend the speelling chequer. I'm doomed. Help!

Yore not domed.  Just ewes a dikshunary.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #19 on: 19/12/2011 19:36:50 »
I can't fiend the speelling chequer. I'm doomed. Help!

Yore not domed.  Just ewes a dikshunary.

But I cant fiend the wurds i want in the dikshunary
« Last Edit: 19/12/2011 19:49:31 by Geezer »
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #20 on: 19/12/2011 20:43:51 »
I can't fiend the speelling chequer. I'm doomed. Help!

Yore not domed.  Just ewes a dikshunary.

But I cant fiend the wurds i want in the dikshunary

The Spell Checker works fine in Firefox.
You're not still using Microsoft software on your computer are you?

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #21 on: 19/12/2011 20:47:36 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

Can I second this?  Although one can get to see 'show posts' though 'Profile' it's not as navigable if you're trying to watch for replies on your threads.
I think that is a different list.
The old "Show Posts" at the top gave a list of what has been recently updated by others.
The one under the profile, I believe, is only a list of what an individual has posted (so you get individual posts, not threads)

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #22 on: 20/12/2011 05:17:51 »
I can't fiend the speelling chequer. I'm doomed. Help!

Yore not domed.  Just ewes a dikshunary.

But I cant fiend the wurds i want in the dikshunary

The Spell Checker works fine in Firefox.
You're not still using Microsoft software on your computer are you?

Yup. Speiling iz no workee with IE8
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« Reply #23 on: 20/12/2011 07:22:06 »
I have installed "Speckie" and it now underlines misspelt words but seems to not to offer a correct spelling.
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« Reply #24 on: 20/12/2011 08:38:44 »
I have installed "Speckie" and it now underlines misspelt words but seems to not to offer a correct spelling.

Right click on the underlined words and it should offer some suggestions.

(BTW, it's whining about "misspelt"  )
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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #25 on: 20/12/2011 17:07:54 »
There also seems a need to update the Question of the Week scripts.

Big upgrades are always such a blast!!!  We'll muddle through for a while.

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« Reply #26 on: 20/12/2011 19:16:05 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

I too am missing the "my posts" feature  :-'(

[PS looks like emoticons aren't working ^ ]
« Last Edit: 24/12/2011 22:39:43 by RD »

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« Reply #27 on: 20/12/2011 19:39:32 »
And the diagram drawing feature should work a lot better. as long as you are using firefox, chrome or a recent version of ie
I tried out the drawing program.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=42530.0

It certainly is much improved over the previous version.

One problem that I ran into is that objects that I had thought that I deleted apparently weren't fully deleted, and thus created some stray lines in the image.  (using Firefox)

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« Reply #28 on: 20/12/2011 19:49:15 »
Learning the new layout, but plenty of bad posts in categories I see. As well the download links are iffy, I have some that work, but others I have to go to the RSS XML to see the episodes ( not using iToons or other aggregrator) to download them.

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« Reply #29 on: 20/12/2011 23:10:11 »
Oh, another thing the new format is missing.

8D :X :-'( :I 8 ) xx( ^ ! V |) B) ? O8) :0

[] [] [] [] [] [] [] [8D] [] [] [] [] [] [:X] [:-'(] [:I] [8] [)] [xx(] [^] [!] [V] [|)] [B)] [] [?] [O8)] [:0]

One needs to surround the smilies with square brackets [ ] for the system to recognize them.  The buttons, are creating the smilies without the brackets, and thus they don't come out right.

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##### Re: sorry for teh problems
« Reply #30 on: 21/12/2011 10:39:42 »
In FF 4 at least the "« Reply #5 on: Today at 15:14:58 "  on the left sides becomes small and almost unreadable.

If you change the "minimum font size" size in FF options from "none" to 9 that text becomes bigger and more readable (see attchment below)

Thanks RD, I can read it now!
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« Reply #31 on: 21/12/2011 10:51:45 »
$$Latex???$$

Stone me! This could be another excuse for wierd posts!

All we need now is a button to connect to 'GIMP' and who knows what might ensue!

Ooer, have I given the game away? [:I]
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« Reply #32 on: 21/12/2011 10:58:51 »
Is it me?

I don't seem to be able to insert picture files etc to posts.

I click on 'Attachments and other options' where I can attach enter the file details, but there's no button to upload the file.

Tch! Silly old fool, I've just seen 'Shift + Alt + S' to upload, but rather than inserting the file, as before, so I can continue with text or other file uploads, it just posts the message. Using 'Shift + Alt + P' for preview only shows the text, not the attached file.

« Last Edit: 21/12/2011 11:05:53 by Don_1 »
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« Reply #33 on: 21/12/2011 15:57:57 »
Has anyone figured out how to link to a particular post?  The date/timestamp under the poster's name on the left of each post used to be a hyperlink that you could cut/paste to take someone directly to the post, but it doesn't work with the upgrade.

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« Reply #34 on: 21/12/2011 17:59:32 »
Has anyone figured out how to link to a particular post?  The date/timestamp under the poster's name on the left of each post used to be a hyperlink that you could cut/paste to take someone directly to the post, but it doesn't work with the upgrade.

A good hacker will never be foiled.

You can do it manually.

Click on "Quote"
Now, you can click on "Preview", and right click on the link to get the option "Copy Link Location"

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=42525.msg376055#msg376055

Or you can copy everything from "topic" to "#msgxxx" and put it in the address bar after the "index.php?"

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« Reply #35 on: 21/12/2011 18:59:49 »
It seems to be impossible to unhide hidden posts.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=42447.msg375463#msg375463

See posts by Rosy.

Perhaps not the worst thing in the world, but we should probably refrain from hiding more until the bug is fixed.

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« Reply #36 on: 21/12/2011 19:34:38 »
The "latest shows" is not showing the links to the show, you have to go into each section to get them.

But better you catch up on sleep first instead Dave, as your health is much more important than minor niggles on the site - I will say that 90% is working, and the rest is easy to work around. I will have to look at the manual for Typo3 a little though........

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« Reply #37 on: 21/12/2011 22:34:17 »
I'm getting a bunch of blank pages with some of the older questions.
Which seems to indicate to me that a part of the database is corrupted.

Right now, I'm seeing a bunch of topics under the 7th page of General Science, but it could be a widespread problem.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?board=1.180

Last updated in July/August/September

Why do men outperform women in spatial awareness tasks?

Where does all the rubber worn from tyres go?

Where can I find the definition of "label claim viscosity"

Why Do We Enjoy Squishing Bubble Wrap ?

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« Reply #38 on: 22/12/2011 05:40:16 »
There is also something wrong with the forum topic:

For the most part it has been emptied...  which might be good...  but...
Remaining topics are all locked []

My guess is that somehow the board lost a large chunk of its database / messages.  See above.

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« Reply #39 on: 25/12/2011 16:46:28 »
Just a query, if I select recent posts and give a range, the results only show and go to the first page of a multipage set, and the bottom of the result is rather incomplete ( as if the page is still loading but is showing as fully loaded) and is missing the nice footer. Is it possible to open to the last post in a selection?

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« Reply #40 on: 26/12/2011 05:06:10 »
Hmmm...
Yes & N0.

Clicking on the next page doesn't work.

However, go to the address bar.
Multiply 20 x the page you want, and append to the address bar...

&start=60       for the third page.
&start=80       for the forth page.

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« Reply #41 on: 26/12/2011 05:22:21 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

I second this, I would say it perhaps is vital

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« Reply #42 on: 26/12/2011 06:56:54 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

I second this, I would say it perhaps is vital

You're thirding it ... http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=42525.msg375993#msg375993
« Last Edit: 26/12/2011 06:59:46 by RD »

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« Reply #43 on: 26/12/2011 17:56:33 »
Previously, there was a category for "My Posts" that which was nice, but perhaps not vital.  It was nice to see which of one's posts had been commented on.

I second this, I would say it perhaps is vital

You're thirding it ... http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=42525.msg375993#msg375993

Can I fourth it please ?...is " fourthing " allowed ?
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« Reply #44 on: 26/12/2011 19:10:00 »
Narcissistic bunch aren't we? I mean, wanting to see the prose and other concoctions of a fevered brain?

I though they would be better lost forever, but another part of me wants to chimp.

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« Reply #45 on: 27/12/2011 04:44:41 »
Narcissistic bunch aren't we? I mean, wanting to see the prose and other concoctions of a fevered brain?

I though they would be better lost forever, but another part of me wants to chimp.

I second that !!
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« Reply #46 on: 27/12/2011 04:46:06 »
Hmmm..smileys don't work !!

Anybody wanna back me up ?.....I guess it's been mentoned already anyway !
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« Reply #47 on: 27/12/2011 04:48:08 »
Hmmm..smileys don't work !!

Anybody wanna back me up ?.....I guess it's been mentoned already anyway !
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« Reply #48 on: 27/12/2011 04:57:08 »
Hmmm..smileys don't work !!

Anybody wanna back me up ?.....I guess it's been mentoned already anyway !
[] [] [] []

Explain !!....though I can see your smileys are in brackets !...hmm.....let's try that !!......[]
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« Reply #49 on: 27/12/2011 04:58:18 »
Sheesh !!...so...even though I click on a smiley I then have to add my own brackets !!!    []...
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