Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?

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Offline tcdao

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Hey my name is tony and i too can cause the tingling sensation that start from the back of the neck and it travels all the way down to my legs. What is interesting is that (weisseraffe) mention being able to control the rods and cone behind the eyes to get a fuzzy image or "fire works" if being done while looking at lights, b/c i too can do that. I think that if a person is able to do that with their eyes then they have 20/20 vision and are able to correct them, b/c when i control my rods and cone while wearing my grandma glasses which is really blurry, i am able to see with normal vision! i believe this is genetic because i asked my mother if she is able to do the voluntary self induce goosebump and she did it!!! so i really believe that it has to be genetic. There is one thing i notice that all of you that are able to do the "VIG"(Voluntary Induce Goosebump) that miss is that after self induce the goosebump, your strength increases, i found this out when i was bench pressing. I maxed out at 150lb but after doing the VIG and lift right away i was able to max out at 170lb!!! which is a big increase in a matter of second, i did a second trial 10min later w/o the self VIG and i was only able to bench 150lb then tried the VIG i again was able to bench 170lb which i think is amazing.

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Offline tcdao

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oh i recommend those with VIG to do the strength trial so confirm this, start off with something you can left and walk with, measure that distance then do it again right after the VIG then re measure the distance. I'm pretty sure you might be shocked with the result.

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dude... I have the same ability! I've recently taken the pulse ability to a new level though. Giving myself a nosebleed... I can now do that at will. I was interested if there was anyone else who could, so i looked up controlling goosebumps on google and there you were. Be careful doing goosebumps too much, if you do it for as long as I have you might get used to it. Try taking a couple weeks of not doing it, because your body may get used to it.

*addition: Its not just pulse... its the blood in your body too. If you have really good control you can do a lot.
also... I am self taught, no meditation or silly crap like that.

2nd addition: to the guy who said his strength increases. I noticed that too. weird...
« Last Edit: 08/05/2009 03:49:02 by tacosalad »

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Offline Jbuddha

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Before I found this article, I had no idea so many others could do the same trick! I am glad to find a community of goosebumpers. I wanted to ask you a few questions, trying to find correlations between other odd things about me and things about you all. Reading over all of these posts, I wanted to say yes I sometimes wake up at night from tripping on a sidewalk in my dream. I can also move my ears individually, pop them, make a loud hum in my ears by humming, I can move my eyebrows separate from eachother, and all that.

What I wanted to ask was if you all ever experienced super sensitivity to your environment? For instance, I get a funky headache when I walk by a microwave turned on. My head also hurts when I'm on a cellphone for too long. I find that a cup of coffee will keep me up for 12 hours, and that I can usually get high off of one or two puffs of the green stuff. I also find that ibuprofen dulls my reaction speed in sports and homework.

Some of these may be all in my head, because the effect is so slight, but are any one of you goosebumpers also (what my friends like to call me), hypochondriacs?

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Offline Jbuddha

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Additionally, I would like to know how you heart beat raisers measure your heart rate without being distracted from the effort. And I haven't tried the weight room yet. Make sure you do trials in different orders, because it is possible that your previous workout will give you an adrenaline boost that soups you up, or it may tire you out for the next trail. You have to find the average increase of strength by averaging the boost you get using goosebumps first in a trial and when you use it last.

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Offline trax

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OK weird, I can do this too and have always been able to. I don't know if I learned it somehow or if it's just natural. I would love to know why I can do it and what it means biologically.

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Offline HubTM

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Im able to do this too, create goosebumps with the wave sensation all these people have mentioned. I can control my heart rate too but not to the same extent. Id be really interested to find out exactly what is going on in the brain when this happens.

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Offline sabe.

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Wow...I just found this forum today on google while trying to figure out words that would relate to this feeling. I thought I was the only one too! I noticed I had this ability since i could remember. However, I can only make myself feel the chill from the top of my chest to the top of my abs. Also, I have to consentrate and breath in and out intensely. When I breath out, my chest shivers and then the feeling comes down from the top of my chest, or bottom of my neck, to the top of my abs, which I believe is where my diaphragm is.
 I don't know about controlling my heart rate though, can you guys enlighten me on how to do it?

Just for your guy's information, if it matters, currently I am a 15-year old vietnamese teenager.

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Offline mike0211

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Hi...My names michael im 23 and born on feb 11,
i really don't know who will ever read this but i have read most of you alls posts about the "goosebumps" lol..funny that everybody is calling it that...because i really dont get the goosebumps like normal goosebumps...if that made sense lol... sure if i reallyyy try to kick that energy up. i actualy trigger "normal hair standing up like crazy/chill goosebumps.." but...

I really just think it feels like a electrical current...but maybe thats the same thing, anyways....

I have a lot to say about it and have some things to compare from all of you other people who can do that same thing. with a couple of new things that nobody else mentioned i dont think...

here goes so bare with me...

K well yess...i can do the whole "goosebumps" thing, and nooo i dont do any special breathing...i dont need to concentrate hard, and can do it while running, holding my breath, eating...watching tv...i guess i just at first learned to control it for the most part because it makes me feel good....

now i drink but i dont do drugs..so i can't really say its like taking a hit of some kinda drug that's addicting...but i can say i constantly "generate" them. because they really do make me feel good...

i noticed some of you or atleast one of you, said how you think it can help with healing...to whoever you are, i gotta agree...it play sports alot and if i "DO" get hurt, i use it to take away most of the pain, and idk...i personally have noticed it helps me just heal a lot faster...

I also can control my heart rate,and pulse...pssh just right now to double check that i could i just kicked up my heart rate to hyper drive......and nowwww i lowered it back down to below normal...so yup..i can still do it...It helps to skip  warming up with getting ready to play basketball lol...
now about the whole controlling the Pulse of my body, yup that I can do....  now im not sure how many of you have actually see your pulse go up without feeling yourself....but when i raise my pulse, i tend to focus it on my wrists,...being that i always saw on tv with doctors or people checking peoples pulses there....but besides that...when i do it... anybody who can see or cant, can clearly see my skin on my wrists pulsing like crazy...my skin bends sometimes on the sides of my hands 2 if i reallyyy focuse hard on doing it... so yup...

now with the whole raising and lowering your body temperature...i can do that as well...BUT there's a slight catch sometimes...
....K....lets say i wanna brave against the cold and raise my temp...well all i do is kick up those "goosebumps"...and focus a "LITTLE" bit on making my body get hot...and it seems to work for the most part...definetly doesnt play a big factor if its like super cold...but it does help for sure... but lets say i do it when its already hot lol...well then my body gets EXtremely hot and ya it kinda sucks...ha

now when lowering my body temp...honestly i can do that 2..but it's not as affective YET.


hmm...what else did you all say?...oh ya.about where it comes from...well to be honest..i guess that doesnt really matter, being that i really cant say for sure where it comes from?...lol sorry =/

all i know is that my emotions GREATLY effect the "goosebumps" when i kick em up...sometimes i try to Double that energy...ehhh let me explain i guess..

okay..for those of you who can do this at will..you know how to trigger it right?...k well lets just say if you ever wanted to double it..that it's possible to take it up a whole other level using your entire body as generating more of it...
..now I myself...can literally see and feel my heart and pulse rate sky rocket...as well as my body heat raise dramatically...also the next part is where you'd get a slight shaking or twitching of yourself..nothing to crazy...but that i found to be just a normal reaction to the increase of the "goosebumps" intensity...

not to sound like an idiot but think of yourself as like powering your body up, to like a superhuman state...to where your senses get heightened up and strenght and just sheer confidence and will..of doing whatever you want...

Yup...it's like that...

you know how your body can bring out adrenaline? i guess its like that, but doing it yourself at will...but to a extreme, because you feel more intense...

now i know most of you say you can control it...but for how long exactly?..you say it comes in waves right?...well ya it starts off like that when controlling it...but have you ever tried to sustain it?

i'm sure some have and maybe can...so if so, thats kool...

I, have been trying to sustain it for as long as i can, without having to produce another "wave"...
but b4 i go on with this...just note that i am only talking about the "normal" not intense really at all, kinda "goosebumps"...

i have gotten pretty good and keeping it going for what Iiiii think is a pretty good amount of time...i'm just experimenting and trying to gain more self knowledge on what this thing can do if it can be controlled further

...but i would be lying if i said i didnt ever Run-out of that "goosebump" energy...YUP..i guess my body has a set amount of how much i can use, and once i deplete it, it takes a couple minutes or longer to restore that lost energy for myself....I know somebody else here talked about how they try and Kickup that energy again when they know they have none, and they get nothing 2...so atleast i know that's normal lol... i try to do the same to get those "normal goosebumps"...but when i try and just kickup the more intense one i talked about..all i get is the shaking of my body...with nothing else...so ya...wont work on that either...which
yess.....you gotta be able to do the "normal goosebumps" at will, in order to generate your body going for that extra one..


anyways, i noticed somebody talking about it possibly giving people who can do it "telekinesis" or something...well honestly, even b4 i read this thing today, since i decided to register like 25 minz ago to be able to write this lol....I honestly assumed that "telekinesis" thing already on my own...i always had a idea that if reallyyyyy mastered or something that MAYBE i can do some CRAzy "telekinesis" stuff lol i knowwww
prolly just wishful thinking...but i mean cant hurt to try right?...but eh...at the same time, i may not be able to control that kinda thing...but doesnt mean i havent had "weird" experiences...




ya....this is 30 minz after i wrote "but doesnt mean i havent had weird experiences"....and i'm pissed because this stupid site i guess timed me out from writing all the stories i told!!!!!! wtf!!!....ima write em again i guess but some other time because there's nowayyyy im writing all that i did again....

laters

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Offline Thouv

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I can do the goosebumps as well.
I used to be able to do it only when standing still, but after getting used to it, I have been able to do it while walking for the past so-many years and any other activity.
I noticed that if I do not inhale (even slightly) at the same time, it is a bit harder to get them.
Also, alcohol inhibits the actual goosebumps (I can still send the electrical signal when inebriated, but there is no goosebump side-effect).

Also, just like mike0211, I have a different "extreme" goosebumpy thing where I slightly twitch or shake and have extreme focus.

Concerning the sustaining, since it comes in waves (the electrical signal or hormone or whatever going down the body), to "sustain" it, I just do the waves frequently enough that it doesn't stop. So I *could* keep doing it "forever".

I would love to finally meet someone else who can do this! Anyone here live in Boston, USA? :-)

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Offline sabe.

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I've been thinking. And...what if everybody could do this...and they just didn't give it much thought.

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I can induce small goosebumps on my arms at will. I have to be sitting down quietly first. To do it I concentrate on the base of my spine then move the point of concentration up it slowly all the way to the top of my head. At that point I breath in very slowly and tense up a tiny bit. Then I feel a tingly nerve sensation moving around my spine and upper body generally and get the goosebumps. Sometimes they appear on my legs also. I can't move them to a specific limb yet. 

I can't do the heart rate thing but I can do the random eye movement thing.

I'm a 42 y.o. male and have been able to do goosebumps for several years. It happened after I tried chakra meditation.

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Offline ZdAries

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Hey guys, like the other guy, I also registered just to post here...  [:I]

And I came upon this site on my search on how to control involuntary actions like inducing goosebumps, yawning, refocusing your eyes, coughing, sneezing, crying(I think it only applies to me, I don't know why but every time after I fight, or hurt anyone for that matter, even though I am barely hurt and even though I won, tears still come to my eyes. This is the main reason why I searched for ways on how to control involuntary actions) and a few others.

About the goosebumps thing, I used to be able to induce them willingly when I was a child. But since then, I have never willingly induced them, because of that, I have forgotten how to do them. But I am still able to induce them again, barely, but only after I just experienced them involuntarily. Like what happened two days ago, I saw this flash animation about a man's life changed by a dare, and thus he was able to help millions of homeless people and was able to give them a home, and because the animation and the song fit each other so much, it gave me goosebumps. And starting from that time until a few hours later, I was able to induce goosebumps by thinking about the video and remembering the "feeling" I had when watching it. But the day after that, I couldn't do it anymore, no matter how much I think about the video.

I think this is what the other guys meant by "replaying". I also learned how to move my eyebrows, and ears, widen my nostrils(not sure what the term is [:I]), focus my eyes and a few others.

In the past, my mother showed off to me how she could move her ears, and because I was so jealous, I tried it so much but still wasn't able to replicate it. So I tried moving my scalp backwards using my hands and then remembered the feeling of how it moved my forehead, eyebrows, eyelids, and ears. After that, I was able to "replay" it over and over again, and then I learned how to move my eyebrows, first dependently of each other, after some days of practicing, I was able to move them independently. And then after I mastered moving my brows(I think I did, I can even move it sideways a little bit, and even make them move in circles, one in a clockwise direction, the other in a CCW direction. I don't what else I can do with them so I think I've already mastered them) While I was practicing with my brows, I noticed how my ears moved with them, and I then remembered the feeling of my ears being moved and practiced until I was able to move them without moving any other part of my face(except my forehead, since it moves upward no matter what I do).

I think most people can do this but just in case I am wrong and most people can't, I can even widen my nostrils. It's hard to explain but try looking at a mirror and try breathing in and out, then you'll notice that your nostrils kind of widen up. My friends aren't able to do this so I think this is not a common "ability".

And also, I can willingly focus my eyes, it actually started a few years ago when my eyes got so bad that I had to either wear glasses or contact lenses. And I didn't want either because it made me look like a geek. So sometimes in class I tried taking off my glasses and focusing on the board but it was so boring and most of the time, I yawned and I noticed that right after I yawned my vision cleared and I could see farther and more clearer than I normally could, but that was only for a few seconds. So, I tried forcing myself to yawn as much as possible so I could see better but it was really hard to yawn. So I tried thinking about boring things and almost closing my eyes to the point that I can barely see and then I learned to yawn willingly. And in class I yawned so much that most of the time my teacher would yell at me to go out if I thought his/her class was boring. But I was never really bothered with them since I was so happy that I could see better. And after a few months I was able to re-focus my eyes to see from varying distances. I can even focus them so that I can see clearly with any-grade glasses.

And also on a side-note, you guys might want to try and learn to yawn willingly. I found it very useful and fun. It is believed that yawning is contagious and if you saw someone yawning, chances are sooner or later you will yawn too. And I was able to prove this with my friends. When I was bored I just yawned and yawned and after a few tries, maybe two or three times, they would yawn too. And every time after that when I yawned there was a near 100% chance of them yawning right after. For me, it was really fun seeing them yawn because of me.

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Offline XSeven

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This is a very interesting topic.

I too have the ability to cause voluntary goosebumps. I used to think that it was a pretty strange thing until I heard that the others here could do it as well.

A common ability? Yes and no. Controlling one's pulse rate is a common ability--the pulse increases just by excitement or relaxation... emotions we control. However, scientists confirm that goosebumps are an involuntary response. Controlling those impulses would take a feat beyond that of just providing emotions or tensing muscles.

I've been experimenting with this ability and have taken it to a higher level. I have the ability to make my heart skip a beat and can "hold" it for a couple of seconds before releasing it. Nearly every time, goosebumps develop. I've also been able to cool myself off in the hot Texas summers by using the VIG trick. But what's most spectacular is that I can actually nullify pain with it. I've used it to quell headaches, leg cramps, bruises and scrapes. I can even hold onto a cup of hot coffee in a metal cup without feeling the pain. The trick numbs my hand to the degree where I feel an electric tingle instead of the pain.

Interestingly enough, we all have one thing in common besides producing goosebumps. We all seem to have an "additional" ability as well. Some have increases in strength, some can heal, and others seem to have touched the psychic level, yet all of the extra nuances are INTERNAL. I think producing the goosebumps is a precursor to learning neuro-feedback. I believe we can take this ability to astounding levels with devotion. IMHO.

(who knows? We could all be on Dr. Shuresh's list  [;)] )
« Last Edit: 29/07/2009 17:56:01 by XSeven »

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Offline nagol

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I have been experimenting with my goosebump control.  With some success I can move it around my body including left to right.  My kids love it, but they have yet to show signs of my stupid people trick ability. I can easily make my face and head get the bumps, looks kinda funny with 5 o-clock shadow.  For me this is defenately linked to adrenaline production, strength and mental focus go up.  I do have mild narcolepsy and this can temporarily help when I get the sudden urge to sleep.  The eye focus thing is something I assumed everyone could do.  I will try the pulse and body temp deal.

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Wow...I've been able to give myself goosebumps since I was a child and have NEVER been able to find anyone else who could do it. I have a question though...are you guys able to give yourself goosebumps with your eyes open or closed? I can only do it closed and when I'm breathing in. I've also performed a test by sitting in a bath tub with the hottest water I could stand, and I was still able to give myself goosebumps while in it.

Do any of you think this may be something more than just giving yourself goosebumps? Like maybe we cam do things with our minds that most people can't? Call me crazy, but I feel like it's something much, much bigger than just performing goosebump tricks.

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It's quite interesting to see this. I can't control goosebumps aside from making them happen randomly, I can't make them go away, but I can increase and decrease my pulse rate without any secondary stimuli. It is quite helpful for when I'm a patient at first aid competitions as it helps my role to be far more realistic. And it's great for confusing people who aren't sure whether my pulse is meant to be that slow or fast!

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Offline vertebrac

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We are a lot!, my name is Javier, i'm from Argentina, i have the same strage thing :)
if anyone would like to chat or talk about it, i'm in skype at: vertebrac (my english isn't very good, but let's give it a try!)

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Offline tcdao

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This is a personal account to my experience of VIG, i can give myself goosebump with eyes close or open, in cold or hot weather, and in any situations. Really i had to teach myself to do it, before i had to think of having my finger nails scratch a block of ice and this would always give me goosebump, in times i train myself by thinking of the same thoughts but controling the goosebump by not activating it. Over the time i started to do it at my own will. I believe this is genetic b/c my mother can do it too, i was amazed. Could we be seeing a evolution in the making? I believe people that can do this can adapt well to cold weather b/c normally goosebump is use to warm up the body. We can adapt well to extreme dangerous situations because at the same time our eyes dilate so we can have a better vision of our surrounding, our body pump adrenaline to our muscle to work much more, our senses increases. This is not your normal human being who has no control over this and depend on these factor situations to set the fight or flight mode on. If we train to use this "skill" at the right time and acquire the knowledge to overcome it, our ability can help us out compete and out survive the normal human being. Im not saying i am right, im just saying think about it and share me your opinion

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Offline Oscar

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Hi all,
I can also give myself goosebumps at will in an almost identical fashion as Jolyon describes. I do not believe in anything mystical, so I don't attach any supernatural qualities to this ability. I am an engineer and as a technical person understand that this may be of interest, especially if it is as rare as this conversation suggests. I live in Boston, so if anyone has a serious interest in exploring this ability, feel free to contact me via email.
Oscar

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Offline Thouv

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Oscar, I can give myself goosebumps at will and live in Boston as well. I sent you a private message.

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Hey there! Thats interesting to hear please keep us all up to date with what you find out. I only registered because I wish to share my thoughts on this,

I can also do this, I realised I could do it after a car accident when I was 10. It was like a sudden trauma released it in me and now I can control it at will.
What I have found interesting is that it seems to be done in different ways.

The way I do it is, I can either tense up or remain completely calm ~ but I do an imaginary pull on either my spine, neck, or from my crown, then I feel it throughout my whole body. The intensity is varied but most of the time it is the same. I have compared it to listsening to awe-inspiring music or having an epiphany, sometimes I can make it reach to that level. I will try keep conscience notes of what lets me reach those levels.

I've also noted that while after jogging for 5 or 10 minutes ~ I find it very hard to do it and it actually takes alot of effort but I can manage (after what looks like I'm having an internal struggle with myself, haha)

Its led me to believe that perhaps we have an conscience ability to control smaller muscles inside of our body. Sort of like a finnese thing.

But also what I find strange is that after awhile I find myself fairly tired or mellowed out. The more I hold it, the more tired I will be. Though ~ while I am holding it I feel charged up and calm, I have even noticed a bit more clarity in my thought.

Though I have never recieved an adrenaline rush by doing this however, I have to pump myself up to get a rush. Otherwise its more like a calming experience for me.

And yes, I practiced meditation to.

I am thinking of convincing a friend that I have a useless supernatural ability. She already thinks I'm weird because I can 'gleek' (projection of saliva from the submandibular gland) and and I have a very high pain tolerance to ~ but I am also very ticklish.. I can control that to though [If i concetetrate, I won't even feel the tickle... or maybe I've developed a good discipline towards it? Maybe it has to do with discipline with your own body]

Anyway I'm afraid I'm going to start rambling!!!

Also, is it gender specific?
« Last Edit: 18/09/2009 10:15:50 by Dimi »
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Offline fearfulparadox

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It is quite a subtle process so it is difficult to explain but I will attempt to. I have actually been trying to teach a friend to do it to understand it better [kinky??],  so far unsuccessfully.  What it feels like I am doing is tensing the muscles located about an inch below the base of my skull, but very very subtly as if I had a pea between my fingers and was pressing it carefully without squashing it. If the tensing is done in a particular way [which I am really at a loss to describe], it triggers waves of an electrical sensation which is generally a precursor to the goose bumps. These “waves” are quite specific in their movement and direction. They begin at the base of the skull just above the “muscle tensing “area then radiate outwards to my upper back and shoulders, then to my arms and finally my legs [most strongly at the front of my thighs]. It also moves around my head in a wave, like I was putting on a tracksuit hood [but no goose bumps manifest there as far as I can tell except on my neck]. I can increase the intensity of these waves, and therefore the goose bumps, by “pulsing” the neck area I described above but it requires concentration and the “electrical” feeling is not necessarily pleasant. A side effect of this process is an increased heart rate and an adrenaline feeling like I had just been frightened or shocked. I can also create this “adrenaline” feeling independently of the goose bumps but again trying to describe how is tricky and beyond my understanding. Like CANNABINOID I also don’t believe it is a “supernatural” process, it is definitely physiological. I don’t practice yoga or meditate and have a healthy scepticism for many [not all] spiritual practices, but I am pretty in tune with my body and surroundings.  I hope this makes some sort of sense, there are so many other things I want ask which may be cleared up by this, for example I suffer from sleep apnia but do not have the general profile of someone who would normally suffer from this condition and wonder somewhere if my sympathetic nervous system [which I presume should control my breathing whilst asleep], is in some way getting mixed messages from my  conscious nervous system. [maybe I’m just a control freak!]
 

Finally! Yes! Yes! Yes!, Someone else who finally has experienced and broken down in explaination exactly what I myself am VERY capable of doing. This is a very stimulating reading this, almost like deja vu......
My name is Dylan Cofer, and my whole life I have also practiced and experimented with these unusual abilities of self control (ever since I was a young one) and have never come to figure out, how? or why? I have been able to do this....I also am very capable of this "tensing at the base of my skull" thus producing
what seems to be shots of adrenaline which lead to increased heart rate, in a different but simuler way I am also able to produce "goosebumps" on the surface of my skin very much EXACTLY how you explained this method, all the way down to the electric feelings.....practicing this I have also been able to produce heat waves throughout my body which makes the surface of my skin (especially the palms of my hands) very clamy {sweaty like humid) increase and decrease heart rates, and as one person has commented, flex a muscle in my ear, useful for plane, car rides to release altitude pressure, etc. The most unusual thing is, is that you mentioned the sleep apnea thing, but unlike most cases is different, same here it comes and goes at different times very unsynchronized, this is very interesting to me to find someone with parallel symptoms and abilities to mine, please do not hesitate to e-mail me immediately for further discussion.... fearful_paradox@hotmail.com

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Offline fearfulparadox

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Well i posted in a rush so i did not realize all the others who have same abilities, this seems very common amoungst people, all having the same abilities, [increased streangth, healing, etc.] which I am also capable of, resulting in my long years of practice..... meditation also increases this,
The stacking of energy as one person has said like "doubling the effect" is also something which I think most have in common amoungst all of us..... yes I do believe its true everybody has these abilities indeed, some just fail to recognize and practice it...

I think with enough time, practice and wisdom on the subject we might be able to figure this out a little better and give each other "tutorals" so to speak, on abilities and learn from one another...like a society of higher thinking... we should all stick with this practice and blog....who knows what mysteries of the body and mind we may unlock..........

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Offline fearfulparadox

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This is definately a relief.......

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O.k this may help, I have stumbled upon a very interesting subject in which relates to my ability, and what sounds like most of what everyone else has said in here, study this video...........it will help explain most of our thoughts,  qi gong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI&feature=fvw

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The thing with me however is I have always have had sharper senses, I have good aim with throwing, sharp eye sight, great hearing, good sense of smell, and I am a very fast runner.

My friends always thought I was inhuman haha. But I was very athletic while I was growing up, I was always swimming or doing something.

But the video.. Qi Gong.. If only we could speak to someone who did practice that form of Martial Art :) I don't know what to think of this really... I just wish I could find someone to explore it with.
« Last Edit: 21/09/2009 09:57:04 by Dimi »
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Oh wait! Another thing. I remember this one time me and my friends were at the powerhouse musuem, and there was a test to see how much current that you could pass through your body [you put your hands on 2 pads and you complete the circuit] . My friends got around 10 ~ 15, and I was up at around 30~33.

Lol wait, a society? We aren't anything special. I think its a hunter ability passed on. We don't usually hunt much anymore.
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Very true, a society...perhaps not, other than online I meant of course, I have also been very athletic my whole life to, strong, fast just naturally, these so called "genetic abilities" have helped me very much in martial arts and weight lifting wich I have been doing for quite a while, one thing I can do in comparison to the qi gong is channel these "adrenaline bursts" (if you may) into my throat and have someone punch it with little or no damage to me, also in my abdominals......what I simply meant is that we should very well try to channel this "chi" within ourselfs since these monks are very real and have been practicing this for many years....scientists, it says, have proven to see this chi with heat sensors that indicate some type of "flow" through the monks body while performing their amazing abilities.....

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Well hello everyone. Im back to keep you posted about some new information's about VIG(i came up with that  [;D]) ok well back to the point. Well i guess we can celebrate the positive effect of VIG like it gives more strength, withstand cold weather and more stuff. Yes it is wonderful.......now brace yourself for the irony...when we activate VIG our body release epinephrine and norepinephrien which are basically the same thing, well these chemical break down the wall of our blood vessel, yes your read right...our chances of getting heart disease and cornary heart disease is very very good. The blood vessel become less elastic because the reticular fibers are gone, the heart then have to work much harder to pump blood throughout the body and also the chances are high for us to get hypertension aka high blood pressure..it suck right? yes i know what everyone is thinking now, this great "gift" "genetic mutation" "evolution" whatever you want to call it is great in a way but....it is also killing us slowly. Also if anyone smoke and can activate VIG...i recommend you stop because you will develop atherosclerosis(thickening of the blood vessel) normally near the heart. Also i just found some news...my grandfather died of heart disease, he was in the airforce, rank E7, yes he was healthy but he could also activate VIG thus we can say the chances are high this can be genetic. Some advise i like to give is exercise and try to limit the activation of VIG, sometimes it is hard because it feels good but try to control it. Also this is also a response to stress, normally when we feel stress and activate VIG, it does lower our stress level. "sigh" well i will keep everyone posted if any new information comes up. LIVE WELL PEOPLE!!!

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Oh! Damn, I knew there was a catch. I have become very addicted to this, and now I am conerned, hahaha.

The next thing to do is to learn to live without it. I think I can manage.

But I have done this in a dream a fair few times! And I even felt it during the dream...
« Last Edit: 05/10/2009 13:34:23 by Dimi »
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Wait! I am extremely confused. I have often compared my 'VIG' to the sensation of listening to awe-inspiring music. Am I effectively adrenaline? Or the fight-or-flight response?

When I am underpressure or doing physical work I labour much much harder to bring it out. Am I experiencing the same thing? Is there a way to test it at all? Cardiologist?
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I have the ability as well and it is a new thing for me, I have a theory on them, I believe it is a reaction to your body collecting energy from your immediate vicinity, I have also noticed an increase in strength and endurance as everyone else stated.
Next time you do it, try visualizing each breath as energy going into your body and see what happens. I am completely self taught, never tried meditating, don't do yoga but I do eat right, get plenty of exercise and I take whole food vitamins everyday.
Another thing someone should try is to hold your cell phone and look at the reception bars while doing it, mine goes from a steady full bars down to one or two bars every single time.


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The only time I ever get increased strength / endurance is when I know I am about to do something strenious. When I calm, it is different.

I have been visiting the doctors, and I am NO closer to finding out what this is.
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eroast, you are the man for your good observation, you got to tell me how did you stumble upon this experiment. Today before chem class, i thought about what eroast said about the cell phone bars, at first i was thinking maybe there were other varibles that may account for the situition like dead zone or something near it. But in my class i had a full bar at first, with one hand i held my phone then activate VIG, as time pass, 2 bar went down...i was shocked as hell. I lay down the phone then without touching it to let it go back to a full bar. I picked it up again, did the same thing and i got the same result. Now i will get to the second interesting thing, now instead with one hand, i held the phone with both hands and activate VIG, i had no bars at all, i created my own dead zone. WOW this is more amazing then i ever would have thought. I have the iphone 3GS, it comes with a compass, i went into that aps and told my friend to hold it so i can see what happen, the compass worked normal, i took the phone and held it with two hands and activate VIG, i disrupt the compass and it said "please remove any interference" WOW SO DAMN AMAZING!!!! This leads to more questions about VIG and if it has anything to do with some types of weak wave or energy that is coming out of the body. PLEASE IF ANYONE GOT OTHER INTERESTING EXPERIMENT TELL US SO WE MAY REDO IT AND SEE IF THE RESULT IS THE SAME. I will update more when i get more information about this.

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Ok so I just found out something interesting, there are other variable that deals with the cell phone experiment. It could of two things one is heat or our hand just block the signal. So vig has nothing to do with cell phone signals. What a bummer!!!

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I was told that this was once learnt in special army classes. But since mine has occured naturally it might be something different. Or rather 'my mileage my vary'
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Like everyone else here, I thought it was very common until yesterday. I discussed this with my brother and he had no idea what I was talking about. This is like when I first got my eye glasses and could see clearly and said: "Oh, does everyone see this clearly, even single leafs from the trees".

But I feel this sensation without the goosebumps (I wouldn't know anyway, my hair is thick and dry). I can get the same feeling with much more intense when I do accupressure, the waves and everything all of you discribed. Anyway, I thought I could share that I can't sleep and have rock myself to sleep, because I have RMD, similar to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuOKOE-YINk

Also I have urticaria, which is rashes and I usually get them after excercise. If I do this "feeling", I think it gets worse.

One more thing I discovered is that I can perform longer, you know, eh... If I do this. :) I just do the "waves" and because of the focus my mind goes else where and I relax, still having the abundance of "resources" :).

Like someone here already suggested, I'm researching Qi gong. "Understanding Qi Gong" the video, seems very interesting (I have watched an hour) and I think the instructor is talking about what we are experiencing. Imagine the Easterners being able to do this for thousands of years, and we just discovered this. I always thought these meditations were silly, but perhaps it isn't after all. We'll see if I'm wasting my time.
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I know I'm a little late to be adding to this, but I can also control my energy. I've only recently confided in my Mom, since I've always thought before that everybody could do this. Although recently, I can't seem to wear watches anymore without them dying on me, especially if I'm running. I don't know if that's just a coincidence.
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Hi

Just thought i'd share my experience of the 'adrenaline boost' as i think of it. I've been able to activate the adrenaline since i was 16 (29 now), but didnt try and explain it to anyone for fear of being sent away to a loony asylum! Bravo to the people who have managed to describe the sensation so well! This is also a very difficult subject to google/research! My experience differs somewhat to most descriptions on here. I dont encounter goosebumps, but I dont think I ever get them even naturally occuring. My heart rate jumps up almost instantly and I find the sensation quite over-powering. I struggle to maintain it for more than 2minutes, during which time muscles will twitch depending where i concentrate. My most common use for it has been to keep myself awake whilst driving back from work late..its probably saved my life a few times!! I also have the uncanny ability to clear my nose/sinus within 20-40 seconds of activation, no matter how blocked up I am. It will block up again within 5-10 minutes so its only a temporary relief. Haven't read anyone else get this side effect so would be keen to hear of any more nose clearers :) Somewhat jealous about the goosebump tricks most of you have,i'll have to work on it a bit more!


I find it unusual that this area hasnt received more research to maybe explain what is actually taking place. Anyway, I look forward to any replies

Regards

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I'm very glad to have found this post.
   I feel regularly this sensations, but i do not get googebumps, but the sensation is similar, its some sort of tingling/electrical/wave like sensation.

 I discovered this ability around the 8th grade.  I do not know well what started it, but I do remember
doing mock attempts (by myself) to "gather energy" (i watched a lot of anime lol) and at some point i started
feeling small tingling energetic sensations.
   I held on to that sensation from then on, triggering it constantly whenever I could, to the intensity that I could.
   By the time I was in the 10th grade or so I remember being able to truly trigger the "waves" at will.
 Around the same time (well since the 9th grade) I became interested in the occult and metaphysical but only
in a shallow way, by reading articles and forums about topics I Googled (or yahoo'ed?). 
   I did eventually did some small yoga exercises but never stuck to it for more than 2 weeks, and usually months happened before i tried anything again.

  (the GOOD part) I eventually tried a lot of breathing exercises in late 11th - early 12th grade.  This is the time my ability really skyrocketed.
   The control to trigger it was now perfect, and I could move it to specific areas of the body.
  I noticed that in the cold classrooms of my school, I could trigger this and get ''heat''.  However in the heat when I do this i do not get hot.
   I am also able to treat pain with this ability, from burns to stomach pains to even wounds, it helps a LOT, but I'm not sure about actual healing...although it does feel like it helps it happen faster.

    VERY interesting findings of my personal experience:
1) Ability intensifies with daily use of a ability.
2) It can be triggered from the abdomen AND the base of the brain (for me at least).
3) It can make cold bearable, and so can it make pain bearable
4) It can be triggered with no physical stimuli, just by willing it, although breathing deeply and concentrating helps the intensity and duration.
5) Intense anger, embarassment, or other strong emotions can be converted to this sensation by willing it, it can even stop me from crying altogheter (not just the stimuli but the inner sensation and emotion) in seconds. (interesting that naturally people feel goosebumps with these emotions, although in a more balanced and natural way)
6) Alcohol and Marijuana (no judgements please, trying to share) hinder the ability, too much and i can't even do it.  (recently I can do it a bit while in this states, found out on New Years Eve Day lol)
7) For some odd reason, even if I can feel it EVERYWHERE else and tigger it anywhere; I CANNOT feel it, move the sensation, or trigger the sensation in my: Hands, Feet & Face (interesting when i get actual embarassment goosebumps most people, including me feel it strongly there).  I CAN feel it in the arms and legs, and in the back of the head all the way to the top (and very intense) but not the Face, Hands or Arms. No matter how hard I try :/
   

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I found your post very interesting, robobmarley. With me also, it does feel like waves, and although I get the goosebumps, I can make them go down if I focus enough. I also know what you mean about the use of it to suppress pain. Yesterday, I wore new leather shoes out and got really bad bloody blisters, but I used the "waves" -for lack of a better term- to help with the pain, since I still had quite a few blocks to walk and was getting desperate for any sort of relief. It worked! I came home and had to wash out the blood in the boots, (god, good thing they were clearance!) but I didn't feel any pain until I quit concentrating. (My feet sting like a bitch today though!)
 I too, have noticed the energy seems to stem from the abdomen or the back of the head. And I've been playing around with this ability more and noticed if I concentrate hard enough I can make my body hot or cold. It also seems to help me deal with intense emotions and get through bad situations.
So, I guess this does mean that not everyone can do this, huh? Since I've found this forum, I've embraced rather than denied this ability. For years, I told myself "Oh, everyone can do this, you know, like when people refer to getting psyched up or having an adrenaline rush". So, this may sound corny, but it's nice to find out I'm not crazy!
Also, does anybody here get really drained after using the energy-trick...thing (whatchamacallit) after a while? It seems some days I'll have to eat or sleep a lot more than usual just to make up the energy.


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when we activate VIG our body release epinephrine and norepinephrien which are basically the same thing, well these chemical break down the wall of our blood vessel, yes your read right...our chances of getting heart disease and cornary heart disease is very very good.

What are your sources for that claim?

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I too can do goosebumps (activate/supress), control eye vision (I see perfectly, I see minimally 150% of normal eye vision), can do the hearing thing mentioned above and can instantly stop a hiccup when I got one.

though I can't do only parts of my body go goosebump like some of you mention.
I believe that controling eye vision can put a load of stress on the eyes which can raise the eye pressure.

I don't quite believe Pumpkin's theory is correct cause there hasn't been any research done on it, who knows to what levels we control hormones?
probably noone.
this is what goosebump controllers can control (or partially)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system
due to the adrenaline.

while we also combine it with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system
due to the smooth muscle control.

those two could be combined in a lot of ways, but after reading the provided links above in my reply I suspect the parasympathetic nervous system is the system most of us control since for example the eye sight is controlled by too, and maybe the sympathic nervous system reacts a little to it.
it would also be weird that through meditation such an effect could kick in if it was the sympathic system.

I found this article that supports Pumpkin's theory:
http://www.webmd.com/balance/news/20000421/anger-health-effects
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Thanks for sharing the interesting links, gcb89. Although I must clarify that I theorize nothing; I was just speaking from personal experience.

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allright, so what is your experience and how sertain are you about those?

and another interesting thing, could "the iceman" Wim Hof also do the same?
he can control his body temperature due to meditation, and been carefully examined by scientists since he can intensify his immune system through maybe the same thing.
who knows, he might could do more but won't make that public.

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allright, so what is your experience and how sertain are you about those?

and another interesting thing, could "the iceman" Wim Hof also do the same?
he can control his body temperature due to meditation, and been carefully examined by scientists since he can intensify his immune system through maybe the same thing.
who knows, he might could do more but won't make that public.

How certain am I that I experienced what I did? I was awake at the time...
Not to be rude, but this is why I don't tell anyone these things in real life, because no one believes me. All I know is I can control pain and burns to some extent,  make myself cold or hot (Hot is harder for some reason), have had perfectly good watches with new batteries (2 of them) die on me the exact moment I utilized the energy; My cats react to the energy if I concentrate it to my fingertips and pet them: Zelda shivers and runs away, and Zoey will just stay very still and start purring (Uncommon for her, trust me). I'm starting to think I'm just insane, or making things up because deep down I must be bored or something - at least I keep telling myself that. I'm sorry, I'm no scientist, although I'm greatly interested in science, and I know this must all sound like a load of crap. I'll stop here before I babble on some more.

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I believe you, simply cause I don't have any reason to believe the opposite.
I wanted to find out if it really destroys blood vessels, and wanna know more about this goosebump control.
what you tell about your cats is interesting, I never had that reaction from any animal. cats always seem to be even drawn to me, anyone else had such thing happened?

I can actually good visibly move the skin of my head when I tension it for goosebumps. it's pretty weird.

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I too, can move the skin of my head. It makes my ears pin back (Caught a glimpse of myself the other day doing that. I looked pretty funny, like one pissed-off elf! [:D]).
 I've never heard of it destroying blood vessels before, but information regarding this subject on every website I've been to is very vague. I'll keep looking and if I stumble upon anything I'll let you know.

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I suggest you just read wikipedia first on those topics, then you'll read that the parasymphatic nervous system is more likely connected to what's all mentioned here in this topic  [;)]

funny you can move your headskin too! [;D] I thought I was maybe the only one with muscle there enough to make the skin move since no-one said anything here about that.

just a thought, in a fight adrenaline often rushes up in humans and if anyone could control the parasymphatic nervous system then someone can get in an ideally physical state, being able to perform at adrenaline-pumped level with no downsides to that state to physical endurance. (normally adrenaline is more a hinder than a help, especially longer term situations)
that's cause the symphatic and parasymphatic nervous system are antagonists with one supressing the other but in such case it likely doesn't happen.

hypothetically speaking  [:)]