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Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !

resultant antigravity?

Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 17:25:53Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !For the same reason that light appears to have the same velocity independent of an observers reference frame. That answer is likely to get me into trouble so here is another one. Infinity + infinity = infinity.

Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 18:46:14Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 17:25:53Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !For the same reason that light appears to have the same velocity independent of an observers reference frame. That answer is likely to get me into trouble so here is another one. Infinity + infinity = infinity.Thanks MikeIt's difficult to grasp how something which is supposed to be infinitely dense and infinitely gravitational can actually merge with an equivalent singularity.

Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 18:56:40Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 18:46:14Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 17:25:53Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !For the same reason that light appears to have the same velocity independent of an observers reference frame. That answer is likely to get me into trouble so here is another one. Infinity + infinity = infinity.Thanks MikeIt's difficult to grasp how something which is supposed to be infinitely dense and infinitely gravitational can actually merge with an equivalent singularity.It can be infinitely dense but still contain a finite amount of mass.

Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 19:49:22Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 18:56:40Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 18:46:14Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 17:25:53Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !For the same reason that light appears to have the same velocity independent of an observers reference frame. That answer is likely to get me into trouble so here is another one. Infinity + infinity = infinity.Thanks MikeIt's difficult to grasp how something which is supposed to be infinitely dense and infinitely gravitational can actually merge with an equivalent singularity.It can be infinitely dense but still contain a finite amount of mass.Thanks Mike. I'm just stumped still !..Would not something that is infinitely dense be impenetrable ?.. indestructible ?..and yet when two collide they are obviously able to be manipulated pass their invulnerable boundaries !

Quote from: neilep on 01/03/2012 09:37:37Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 19:49:22Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 18:56:40Quote from: MikeS on 29/02/2012 18:46:14Quote from: neilep on 29/02/2012 17:25:53Ok, you have your black hole yes?...your bog standard collapsed star extreme high gravitational blacky holey thing ok ?And at the center is an area that is comprised of an infinite dense and infinite gravity thing yes?...a singularity !So, if it's ' infinite'...how can two of them collide and become one ?see ?...gotcha !!...*I'm a klevur sheepy ! *le smug** Yes yes I know.....soon to be made to look like a silly sheepy !For the same reason that light appears to have the same velocity independent of an observers reference frame. That answer is likely to get me into trouble so here is another one. Infinity + infinity = infinity.Thanks MikeIt's difficult to grasp how something which is supposed to be infinitely dense and infinitely gravitational can actually merge with an equivalent singularity.It can be infinitely dense but still contain a finite amount of mass.Thanks Mike. I'm just stumped still !..Would not something that is infinitely dense be impenetrable ?.. indestructible ?..and yet when two collide they are obviously able to be manipulated pass their invulnerable boundaries !I guess all we can do is speculate on what goes on inside the EH of a black hole. Presumably the singularity is as you say impenetrable but between the singularity and the event horizon there must (?) be a gravitational gradient and therefore a density gradient. If so, then this would allow for the possibility of penetration (or merger) by something more dense.

Whilst current knowledge tends toward predictions of singularities at the centre of black holes - this is based on large scale physics, ie General Relativity. But we know from other realms that when you get to the very small (and a singularity is pretty tiny) you have to take notice of the quantum world. At present we still don't have a working model of quantum gravity - but one of the areas that needs it is blackholes (and the big bang). Hawking has already shown that a quantum view of the immediate outside of the event horizon brings up previously unthought of ideas - ie the concept that blackholes radiate.It is almost always worth getting rid of infinities - mathematical singularities - if one can; they make the whole thing very difficult.