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Could this apparatus cause cold fusion?

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Could this apparatus cause cold fusion?
« on: 21/02/2012 21:02:21 »
i have a theory into cold fusion, and was wondering is there a way to create a neutron like a neutron generator? i answered my own question... but any way the theory is to connect a neutron generator to a tank filled with congealed concentrated salt water with a copper diode protruding into it, and at the other end a proton generator to receive the newly created protons, and convert it into usable energy.
the idea is to charge the electrons around the neutron's nucleus with ions untill they spin clockwise charging up the nucleus and changing it into a proton the reason why the solution is congealed is to create a surface to generate ions from friction even tho salt is an electrolyte. Heres' a question will the solution turn into battery acid? i also have theory into defensive technology 
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Re: cold fusion
« Reply #1 on: 23/02/2012 12:13:08 »
what's the copper diode for?
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Re: cold fusion
« Reply #2 on: 23/02/2012 13:04:47 »
I thought we were at the begining of Lent perhaps I am mistaken and its the begining of April.
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Re: cold fusion
« Reply #3 on: 23/02/2012 14:10:20 »
is that you Ing. Rossi?

But seriously Livewire - this idea is not just out there, its so way out that it's in orbit. 

Neutron Generators - as far as I am aware - are fusion reactors of a sort.  They fuse Deuterium and Tritium to make Helium isotopes and free neutrons.  I don't think this is a very efficient process - and requires expensive and exotic materials to start with.

Proton generator to receive protons? BTW  - a free proton in water is a hydrogen ion/hydronium and will end up making a H3O+ (or more complicated  H502+) cation.

Neutrons do not have a nucleus.

Neutrons - can and do become protons by losing and electron (and an electron anti-neutrino), this is a natural process known as beta decay.  Half your neutrons will undergo this process in 14 minutes and 42 seconds

Friction for subatomic particles is just too weird.

the solution will become acidic - an excess of hydronium over hydroxide ions.

(I have probably got the chemistry the wrong way around - I tend to do that)
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Re: cold fusion
« Reply #4 on: 23/02/2012 19:05:21 »
i have a theory into cold fusion,
No, you have some odd idea- it doesn't qualify as a theory.


and was wondering is there a way to create a neutron like a neutron generator?
Yes, neutron generators exist.
i answered my own question
Good.


... but any way the theory is to connect a neutron generator to a tank filled with congealed concentrated salt water
Why salt water and what do you mean by congealed?


 with a copper diode protruding into it,
A what?
I know what a copper oxide rectifier is- the most notable thing it is, is obsolete.


and at the other end a proton generator to receive the newly created protons,
The defining characteristic of a proton generator would be that it gives out protons, rather than receiving them,
 and convert it into usable energy.

Why would it do that, and how?

the idea is to charge the electrons around the neutron's nucleus with ions untill they spin clockwise charging up the nucleus and changing it into a proton the reason why the solution is congealed is to create a surface to generate ions from friction even tho salt is an electrolyte. Heres' a question will the solution turn into battery acid?



I give up


i also have theory into defensive technology

Well that's one army I don't need to worry about.
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Re: cold fusion
« Reply #5 on: 23/02/2012 20:18:49 »
Is the idea to capture charge by proton neutron conversion?

The problem is that charge is conserved.

Proton + electron --> neutron
neutron --> proton + electron.
Proton --> neutron + positron

As far as neutron generators, there are many.  The best would be a nuclear fission reactor.  However, many of the lighter elements also have isotopes that spontaneously undergo neutron decay, some with very short half lives.
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Re: Could this apparatus cause cold fusion?
« Reply #6 on: 08/03/2012 13:24:18 »
yes the idea was to capture charge from the conversion of neutrons into protons
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