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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #50 on: 11/08/2006 17:11:26 »
yeah, I haven't found a good one yet. Can anyone think of a picture that neatly sums up the whole of science in 60x60 pixels of goodness?

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« Reply #51 on: 11/08/2006 17:41:18 »
How about this !!

Looks fine to me




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« Reply #52 on: 11/08/2006 18:12:09 »
What about one of these  ?


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from here !! http://www.trios.de/





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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #53 on: 11/08/2006 18:18:08 »
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Originally posted by daveshorts
Am working on this again at http://typo.nakeddiscovery.com/forum/



Very brief look – nothing obviously broken – maybe have to spend a little longer to find your deliberate mistakes this time.  Some issues though.

Don't see any way at present to go to the last message of a topic.  Is it simply that I have not looked in the right place.

You retain the advanced search icon – and I now know what it is – but there is neither and legend near it, nor any tooltip to tell you what it is.  There is more than enough room under the current search button to place a clearly labelled 'advanced search' button.

Generally, very pretty, but too much real estate used by things that are not immediately useful, thus requiring more scrolling to read what is important.  In particular, the side bar that remains there even when you are deep down in the topics means that you are losing space for the topic information – which is what you really want to read.

It might also maybe useful is a border was placed around to text area in the topics (it is placed around the quotes, with a change in background area) so that is is clearly separated from the surrounding context information (i.e. author, date, etc).

It looks like the borders around the quotes are in the same colour as the default colour for the text.  Would it not be better to use a different colour in order to easier visually separate the borders from the text? (particularly confusing when you have a cascade of quotes)





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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #54 on: 11/08/2006 18:19:52 »
BTW, one clear difference in behaviour between the old and new forum:

The old forum, when you reply to a topic, you remain in the topic, in the new forum, when you reply to a topic, you then exist the topic and go back to the section.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #55 on: 11/08/2006 18:32:13 »
It seems the search facility allows you to search the body of the messages, but I do not see how you search by topic header (thus is possible in the current forum).




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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #56 on: 11/08/2006 18:45:09 »
Another anomaly – maybe I just don't understand something properly.

I take an existing topic, and split it.  Of I do a search for words within both the old and new topic, they are both there, but if I look at the index for the topics, only the old topic is visible (even if I use search to bring up the newly split topic, and then select the link to the parent index, it is missing from the parent index – at least in the recent topics list, and this is even though the time of the message of the new topic is only 20 minutes after the start of the original topic).



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #57 on: 11/08/2006 18:54:18 »
The topic index, the 'Started by' column seems to be fixed width – or, at least, it is very easy to overflow the column width for long names as you scale up the fonts (FireFox ctrl/+).



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #58 on: 11/08/2006 20:10:15 »
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Generally, very pretty, but too much real estate used by things that are not immediately useful, thus requiring more scrolling to read what is important. In particular, the side bar that remains there even when you are deep down in the topics means that you are losing space for the topic information – which is what you really want to read.


The reason we have done it is to make the naked scientists podcast and site less seperate form the forum, I will be doing more integration in the future, so you automatically get discussion topics based around questions asked on the show for example.

How about now - if you are logged in the sidebar is abbreviated enough for the forum stuff to fit underneath, giving you the full width to play with, but guests will see the full thing so find out about us. Is this too confusing or ugly? Should I have it as an option in profile instead?

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« Reply #59 on: 12/08/2006 00:13:17 »
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Originally posted by daveshorts
How about now - if you are logged in the sidebar is abbreviated enough for the forum stuff to fit underneath, giving you the full width to play with, but guests will see the full thing so find out about us. Is this too confusing or ugly?



That looks a lot better - thanks.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #60 on: 13/08/2006 01:33:25 »
Mark as read button consistently returns a “Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again” - even if I log out and log back in.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #61 on: 13/08/2006 01:40:31 »
Still not sure what the tick boxes, either on the thread index, or on the messages within the threads, are meant to do.

Tried to report to moderator function – again, not sure what that is meant to do, since no messages entered my inbox (and I am supposed to be a moderator).

Still a problem that report to moderator returns you to message index, so if you want to report several messages within the thread, you will have to drill down the thread again.

Still a limitation that you only have one line of text for the report to moderator function – this is not a lot in which to describe why you have reported the message to the moderator.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #62 on: 13/08/2006 01:49:33 »
Set up a poll.

I have no problem voting in the poll.

No problem removing the vote.

When I have voted, the I can see the current voting results.

If I have not yet voted, or have deleted my vote, then the current results do not appear (this is not a problem).  But what does appear is a button that says 'View results' – but that button does not seem to do anything.



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« Reply #63 on: 13/08/2006 02:09:00 »
A slightly misleading error message.  I tried to register a new user, logged out, and register a second user, and I get the message “Sorry, but you're not allowed to register multiple accounts at the same time from the same computer”.

In fact I can register as many users as I like from the same computer – I simply cannot register them from the same session – i.e. I have to close down the browser and open it up again in order to register a new user.

There are in fact some good reasons why a user would want to register more than one user from the same computer (e.g. more than one family member using the same computer).







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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #64 on: 13/08/2006 02:23:33 »
The registration process states it requires a valid email address – in fact, it only requires a valid domain name on the email address.

The only way to actually validate an email address is to send an email to the address (which would not be a bad idea, but clearly you are not doing this, but merely doing a DNS lookup on the name, or allowing a valid non-local IP address).

If you fill out the registration, you need (not unreasonably) to click on the 'I agree' tickbox before the 'Register' button is enabled.  Problem is that if an error occurs in the registration, you are then taken back to the registration entry apge, with the password fields cleared, but all other fields left as they were.  This includes the 'I agree' tickbox remains ticked, but the 'Register' button is disabled.  You actually need to untick the 'I agree' box, and tick it again, before the 'Register' button is enabled again.





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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #65 on: 13/08/2006 02:39:10 »
Tried to click on the 'notify' button in the 'Chemistry' forum.  Then created a new topic within the forum.  Did not see any notification.

Do not see where there is any indication of whether notification is active or not.

BTW, I notice that you have removed the list of moderators from the topics list.  This is good, since it used up real estate, and few people actually need to know who the moderators are – they just need to be able to contact the moderators (e.g. by the 'notify moderator' option).

On the other hand, the moderators themselves might like to know which topics they are moderators for – how would they find this information out?



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #66 on: 13/08/2006 02:51:03 »
I was given the understanding that in the new forum moderators would have more power over individual users (i.e. to delete or lock users, not only their messages).  Was this understanding in error – I see no way of managing users in the forum?

Incidentally, when I have the members list up, I have the search option at the top (not the 'search members' button, but in the heading area, the same search option that exists everywhere else).  This is a little confusing in this context, since that option is still searching the topic messages, even though I am not in a topic context.  I would expect the only search facility to be available when viewing members information is a search of members, not a search of topic.  I would advise either removing the field when viewing members information, or changing it to search the members records, to at least to relabel to 'Search topics' so that it is clear that the function is not context dependent.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #67 on: 13/08/2006 02:56:58 »
BTW, I don;t see anyone else posting much here.  Am I a 1 man testing team, or are others sending responses through direct email, or otherwise less visible means?



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #68 on: 13/08/2006 20:43:36 »
The new members list actually contains less information than on the existing site.

The members list does not contain the date of the most recent post, or the country of the member.



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #69 on: 15/08/2006 13:12:16 »
Sorry have been away for the weekend
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I was given the understanding that in the new forum moderators would have more power over individual users (i.e. to delete or lock users, not only their messages). Was this understanding in error – I see no way of managing users in the forum?

Sorry I think I had not goven you enough permissions. I have now made you a global moderator, and I think you should have an admin option at the top within which you should be able to do this.

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Spellcheck

After an exciting exercise in recompiling PHP and Apache we now have a spellcheck option when posting messages.

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« Reply #70 on: 16/08/2006 17:02:00 »
YAAAAAY!! I LOVE SPELL CHECK!!!

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« Reply #71 on: 16/08/2006 17:18:40 »
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YAAAAAY!! I LOVE SPELL CHECK!!!

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #72 on: 16/08/2006 20:35:23 »
Since most responses I compose in a wordprocessor before copying onto the web page, I already have been using a spellchecker most of the time.



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« Reply #73 on: 17/08/2006 02:35:45 »
YOU DO SO, SIR!!!! YOU ARE SO.... BAD, But so am I when I get sleepy your lucky if I can spell anything!!!

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« Reply #74 on: 17/08/2006 02:52:56 »
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Originally posted by Karen W.

YOU DO SO, SIR!!!! YOU ARE SO.... BAD, But so am I when I get sleepy your lucky if I can spell anything!!!



Well  you spelt 'anything' correctly this time - so he must be lucky [:D]



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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #75 on: 17/08/2006 13:37:44 »
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On the other hand, the moderators themselves might like to know which topics they are moderators for – how would they find this information out?

At the moment it is listed on the front board index page, as there is plenty of space there I thought it wouldn't hurt.

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« Reply #76 on: 17/08/2006 13:45:03 »
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Still not sure what the tick boxes, either on the thread index, or on the messages within the threads, are meant to do.

There should be a little form (a couple of dropdown boxes) at the bottom of the list of messages/topics with lots of moderation options, these will be applied to all the selected posts, this means you can delete loads of posts/topics at once.

If you prefer the old system there is an option in your profile to change it back. In look and Layout, change 'Show quick-moderation on message index as' to your prefered option.

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« Reply #77 on: 17/08/2006 13:50:51 »
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Mark as read button consistently returns a “Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again” - even if I log out and log back in.

I think I fixed this as a byproduct of fixing something else, is it working now for you as well as me?

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A slightly misleading error message. I tried to register a new user, logged out, and register a second user, and I get the message “Sorry, but you're not allowed to register multiple accounts at the same time from the same computer”.

In fact I can register as many users as I like from the same computer – I simply cannot register them from the same session – i.e. I have to close down the browser and open it up again in order to register a new user.

There are in fact some good reasons why a user would want to register more than one user from the same computer (e.g. more than one family member using the same computer).


Yes it does only work on the session, I think it is to try and discourage incompetent spammers who would make lots of accounts and post spam from them. I think it may annoy more people than it will stop, maybe I will disable it.


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« Reply #78 on: 22/08/2006 17:11:42 »
Ok I think I am getting there, have just spent ages adding a little box to the 'Unread posts' page so it will show you all the posts since a date, like the present one. Does this now behave in a relatively logical way to you guys now?

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« Reply #79 on: 22/08/2006 18:46:52 »
My first look in three weeks and its looking good Dave i'm well impressed ,i cant wait for it to go live.

I cant see many problems apart from the missing icon from the last post box and when you place the mouse over the UNREAD box a popup box appears and says logout in error .

Some of the forum title's are in bold while some arn't.

I will hunt a bit more deeper.

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« Reply #80 on: 22/08/2006 22:47:15 »
I apologise Michael and Neil, your global moderator status is now assured.

I will look at other stuff on Friday, I have a couple of exciting days of recording in between...

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« Reply #81 on: 22/08/2006 23:04:52 »
I want more than ' global ' I want 'Interdimensional ' [:)]

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« Reply #82 on: 23/08/2006 04:52:57 »
Read icon missing from  PM messages window.(must have a mesage to see it)[:)]

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« Reply #83 on: 23/08/2006 11:48:20 »
Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again!  Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

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« Reply #84 on: 23/08/2006 14:41:30 »
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Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again! Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

Sorry, I am not quite sure what you mean, which screen are you on where you see the link? As I don't think you should be able to see "Show new replies to your post" anywhere, which means I'm obviously confused somehow.
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« Reply #85 on: 23/08/2006 16:54:44 »
Use your link here to enter new forum, then sign in password ect. new screen pops yp and displays which messages you have or don't have, on the upper left hand side there are two links one shows unread posts since last visit , other shows new replies to your posts,like this!
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Hello Karen W.  August 24, 2006, 12:43:33 AM
 
 
you have 8 messages, 0 are new.

> Show unread posts since last visit.
> Show new replies to your posts.
(This is the one that keeps showing the error, I cut and pasted this one!)
                   Total time logged in: 7 hours and 8 minutes.



Hope this helps!

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« Reply #86 on: 22/08/2006 18:46:52 »
My first look in three weeks and its looking good Dave i'm well impressed ,i cant wait for it to go live.

I cant see many problems apart from the missing icon from the last post box and when you place the mouse over the UNREAD box a popup box appears and says logout in error .

Some of the forum title's are in bold while some arn't.

I will hunt a bit more deeper.

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« Last Edit: 22/08/2006 20:51:14 by ukmicky »

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #87 on: 22/08/2006 22:47:15 »
I apologise Michael and Neil, your global moderator status is now assured.

I will look at other stuff on Friday, I have a couple of exciting days of recording in between...

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« Reply #88 on: 22/08/2006 23:04:52 »
I want more than ' global ' I want 'Interdimensional ' [:)]

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« Reply #89 on: 23/08/2006 04:52:57 »
Read icon missing from  PM messages window.(must have a mesage to see it)[:)]

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« Reply #90 on: 23/08/2006 11:48:20 »
Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again!  Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

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« Reply #91 on: 23/08/2006 14:41:30 »
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Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again! Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

Sorry, I am not quite sure what you mean, which screen are you on where you see the link? As I don't think you should be able to see "Show new replies to your post" anywhere, which means I'm obviously confused somehow.
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« Reply #92 on: 23/08/2006 16:54:44 »
Use your link here to enter new forum, then sign in password ect. new screen pops yp and displays which messages you have or don't have, on the upper left hand side there are two links one shows unread posts since last visit , other shows new replies to your posts,like this!
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Hello Karen W.  August 24, 2006, 12:43:33 AM
 
 
you have 8 messages, 0 are new.

> Show unread posts since last visit.
> Show new replies to your posts.
(This is the one that keeps showing the error, I cut and pasted this one!)
                   Total time logged in: 7 hours and 8 minutes.



Hope this helps!

Karen
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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #93 on: 22/08/2006 18:46:52 »
My first look in three weeks and its looking good Dave i'm well impressed ,i cant wait for it to go live.

I cant see many problems apart from the missing icon from the last post box and when you place the mouse over the UNREAD box a popup box appears and says logout in error .

Some of the forum title's are in bold while some arn't.

I will hunt a bit more deeper.

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Michael
« Last Edit: 22/08/2006 20:51:14 by ukmicky »

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #94 on: 22/08/2006 22:47:15 »
I apologise Michael and Neil, your global moderator status is now assured.

I will look at other stuff on Friday, I have a couple of exciting days of recording in between...

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« Reply #95 on: 22/08/2006 23:04:52 »
I want more than ' global ' I want 'Interdimensional ' [:)]

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Men are the same as women, just inside out !

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #96 on: 23/08/2006 04:52:57 »
Read icon missing from  PM messages window.(must have a mesage to see it)[:)]

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #97 on: 23/08/2006 11:48:20 »
Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again!  Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #98 on: 23/08/2006 14:41:30 »
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Ok, In the new forum below your name and messages sub, it says, Show new replies to your post. when I hit this it says Data base error, please try again! Report error to administration after trying again if this takes you to error message again! Yes it takes me there every time never where it is supposed to. Balls in Your court, is this the right place to report it?

Sorry, I am not quite sure what you mean, which screen are you on where you see the link? As I don't think you should be able to see "Show new replies to your post" anywhere, which means I'm obviously confused somehow.
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Re: Have a look at the new forum
« Reply #99 on: 23/08/2006 16:54:44 »
Use your link here to enter new forum, then sign in password ect. new screen pops yp and displays which messages you have or don't have, on the upper left hand side there are two links one shows unread posts since last visit , other shows new replies to your posts,like this!
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Hello Karen W.  August 24, 2006, 12:43:33 AM
 
 
you have 8 messages, 0 are new.

> Show unread posts since last visit.
> Show new replies to your posts.
(This is the one that keeps showing the error, I cut and pasted this one!)
                   Total time logged in: 7 hours and 8 minutes.



Hope this helps!

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« Last Edit: 23/08/2006 16:56:16 by Karen W. »

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