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Aluminium is a quite reactive metal, with a melting point of 660 °C, 1220 °F. Barium is a very reactive metal, with a melting point of 727 °C, 1341 °F. If you were sprayed with liquid aluminium or barium, you would be burnt to a crisp, and there is no antidote.
They myth just isn't possible- for a start the Ba and Al oxides would coat the turbine blades and trash the engines.It isn't even remotely possible so there's no need to discuss the other issues like- why nobody has ever actually analysed jet fuel and found Ba or Al or how they managed to get the entire world to play along.Or even, why don't air crashes burn with a green flame?
Aerial delivery systemUS 7413145 B2AbstractA method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system, readily adaptable, without extensive aircraft modification, to various makes of aircraft, for dispensing current types of forest and range fire fighting chemicals. The aerial delivery system is self contained and reusable. It enables cargo/utility aircraft to carry and dump a load, under control. The aerial delivery system is capable of attachment at the wing box, pressurized delivery from the nozzles, and nozzles directed straight downward.
jet fuel use is about 5 million barrels a day.Imagine that they could get 10% (w/v) barium into that (which is absurdly optimistic)
Dear Bored chemist, a nozzle is a specific type of device for aircrafts to deliver chemicals in a downward direction:QuoteAerial delivery systemUS 7413145 B2AbstractA method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system, readily adaptable, without extensive aircraft modification, to various makes of aircraft, for dispensing current types of forest and range fire fighting chemicals. The aerial delivery system is self contained and reusable. It enables cargo/utility aircraft to carry and dump a load, under control. The aerial delivery system is capable of attachment at the wing box, pressurized delivery from the nozzles, and nozzles directed straight downward.http://www.google.ca/patents/US7413145 Why don't you get informations on the chemical composition of coal fly ash ?I hope you learn that clandestine geoengineering activity is designed as a military technology, and that the reuse of coal fly ash is an evidence of the weaponization of this poorly understood chemical agent.
I see you have brought up an old dead post to show that you still don't understand the nature of evidence.
The patent shoes that it's possible to spray things from planes. We know that.However the chemtrails lie was that the stuff was mixed into the fuel. And I was pointing out that it is nonsense.
I don't need information of the composition of fly ash- though you might want to explain why it's got so much barium (which is relatively rare) in it and yet so little silica which is very common.The reasons I don't need to look up data are firstly that I know it- at least well enough to show that your idea is dross,and alsoThere is no evidence of fly ash being used in any sort of high altitude spraying operation except- possibly- on a very small experimental scale.
Also, it's not actually very toxic so it's not much of a weapon.And there's the old problem - the one you persist in ignoring.If "they" put chemicals in the air, what do "they" breathe?
You don't need evidences to ponder on the nature of chemtrails. The stuff they are spraying is by itself an evidence that this is NOT water vapor.
OK, so what stuff are they spraying?My guess is: Kerosene + Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide (gas) + Water (vapour) CnH2n+2 + (2n+1) O2 = nCO2 + (n+1) H2O
I believe there is a conspiracy to produce conspiracy theories. It is insidious, addictive and should be prohibited by law.What do you think?...
Quote from: jeffreyH on 01/07/2016 10:43:23I believe there is a conspiracy to produce conspiracy theories. It is insidious, addictive and should be prohibited by law.What do you think?...Disinformation should be prohibited by law, not the opposite. The "conspiracy theory" label is just a marketing strategy created by the CIA for anyone who dares to challenge the official narrative. It is the job of scientists to shed light on the truth, and to dispel the propaganda we sought to believe without using a scientific method.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-23/1967-he-cia-created-phrase-conspiracy-theorists-and-ways-attack-anyone-who-challenge
So you agree that we should outlaw the disinformation. Then start with the disinformation of the conspiracy theorists.
However, we do not know how commonly bees are exposed to aluminium, and no studies have investigated whether such exposure may contribute to bee health problems. Here, we quantify the concentration of aluminium in bumblebee pupae taken from colonies that had been foraging naturally in the UK landscape. We also examine whether aluminium concentration correlates with measures of colony fitness.
I assume you guess that this patented aerial delivery system uses jet fuel, but as I explained to Bored chemist there must be some kind of nozzle attached to a pressurized tank in the cargo of the aircraft. And yes, practically all aircrafts emits some water vapor, I'm sorry for the confusion.
Meanwhile, a recent scientific study reported that bumblebees contains high levels of aluminium. This is likely an ...
It isn't "likely" at all- you just made that idea up.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/07/2016 12:51:37It isn't "likely" at all- you just made that idea up. Yeah right. I suppose I imagined that bees are dying for nothing. And the increase of Alzheimer cases must be also the product of my imagination. The persistent trails made by aircrafts must be water vapor I suppose... How can you make such nonsense claims without even examining the evidences from scientists with higher education than you?
No, you didn't imagine the dead bees- and nobody said you did- that's a straw man argument.However you did imagine the idea that it is likely that the source of the aluminium in the bees is from nozzles spraying fly ash from aircraft.And, having dreamed up that idea, you somehow came to the conclusion that it was "likely" when a better assessment would be "bloody near impossible".
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/07/2016 14:59:24No, you didn't imagine the dead bees- and nobody said you did- that's a straw man argument.However you did imagine the idea that it is likely that the source of the aluminium in the bees is from nozzles spraying fly ash from aircraft.And, having dreamed up that idea, you somehow came to the conclusion that it was "likely" when a better assessment would be "bloody near impossible".Your wishful thinking certainly won't help. In reality the possibility that clandestine geoengineering activity is harming public health is being censored by our governments. You can ignore this fact but I'm confident that the truth cannot be suppressed forever.The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. -Winston Churchill
That must be why every time you see government officials on TV making statements they are wearing breathing aparatus.
Quote from: jeffreyH on 04/07/2016 12:46:43That must be why every time you see government officials on TV making statements they are wearing breathing aparatus.LOL. Chemtrails propaganda (and disinformation) is an epistemological evidence that the chemical composition of the nanoparticles have neurotoxic properties on humans: Aluminium toxicity is likely to participate to Alzheimer pathogenesis.
CIA Director States (On Camera) His Support For Geoengineering & Spraying Particles Into The Atmosphere: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/07/12/cia-director-states-on-camera-his-support-for-geoengineering-spraying-particles-into-the-atmosphere/
So, once again, no actual evidence of contrails- just stuff that might possibly be important if they existed.
A man who isn't a scientist says that something would be a good idea- in his opinion.Do you realise that isn't the same as saying that that "something" is happening?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:40:33So, once again, no actual evidence of contrails- just stuff that might possibly be important if they existed.A contrail is not a chemtrail.... Please educate yourself. A chemtrail persist in the atmosphere until it dissolve with air and water to form hydroscopic cloud condensation nuclei: "The concept of cloud condensation nuclei is used in cloud seeding, that tries to encourage rainfall by seeding the air with condensation nuclei. It has further been suggested that creating such nuclei could be used for marine cloud brightening, a climate engineering technique."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_condensation_nuclei
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 13:45:37A man who isn't a scientist says that something would be a good idea- in his opinion.Do you realise that isn't the same as saying that that "something" is happening?This guy is the CIA director. I think he might have a better idea of what is going on than you and me... By the way, when a official from the U.S government states his support for geoengineering activity its likely not the product from my imagination. At some point you must connect the dots between reality and the potential effects of this activity as a scientist?
And, once again.Do you realise that someone saying "Iwould support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?
You posted that after I noticed, and fixed, my typo. Did you not realise your post was an irrelevant waste of time?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2016 14:16:30And, once again.Do you realise that someone saying "Iwould support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?The CIA director is an authority... I trust what he says because clandestine geoengineering activity is a fact; Weather modification is controversial because its classified U.S military technology.
No he isn't.No it isn't.No it isn't.He may well know stuff- so what. He doesn't decide what other people do in, for example, other countries. Nor is it clear that he would know what other countries (or even his own) are doing.Nobody is doing any meaningful geoengineering. If you disagree please show some actual evidence (rather than someone saying it might be possible)It's not classified- it's well documented. The three usual variations on the theme use silver iodide- which is effective, but expensive. Cement powder which is a lot less effective, but much cheaper and was used by the Russians to stop it raining on their may-day parades and solid CO2 which comes between the first two in terms of cost an efficacy.Why do you keep posting stuff that's irrelevant or wrong?And, once again.Do you realise that someone saying "I would support this" is not the same as saying "this is happening"?Your other post implies that chemtrails are real(and made of fly ash).You have not supplied a single shred of evidence to support that.Do you understand that science relies on evidence- and you haven't got any?You also still keep failing to address the other obvious point.Why are "they" poisoning themselves?
I don't need "evidences" to validate what I'm witnessing on almost a daily basis. The persistent trails left by non-commercial airplanes and drones are proofs that geoengineering is real. You cannot deny this, unless you live on some distant planet or you're mentally insane.What is needed is scientific research on the possible impacts of geoengineering on the biota, in order to convince the policy makers that geoengineering is a bad idea. By the way, we are poisoning ourselves with chemtrails simply because our leaders have decided this would save humanity from climate change.
And the first picture you posted looks like a chemtrail to me. Are you mocking me??
I'm not stupid. A persistent trail is the signature of clandestine geoengineering activity. Theses trails condense into artificial clouds which looks like cirrus clouds.http://www.chemtrails-france.com/cirrus_fibratus/cirrus_fibratus_en.htm
"I'm not stupid."I guess others will make up their own minds about that.
In one embodiment, the fine silica particles can include at least one of silica fume, fumed silica, or powdered quartz. The fine silica particles may have an average diameter ranging between 5 nanometers and 10 microns. The fine particles may closely resemble a composition of volcanic ash, such that they have optical and physical properties similar to volcanic ash.A method is provided for mitigating global warming in accordance with an embodiment of the invention. Such method can include injecting or dispersing fine silica particles into the stratosphere. The particles are dispersed in a concentration sufficient to cause statistically significant warming of the stratosphere. A statistically significant cooling of the troposphere can also occur simultaneously with the warming of the stratosphere.
Why can't you show me a stack of pictures?