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quote:Originally posted by moonfireNeil do you have dreams being abandoned??"Lo" Loretta
quote:Originally posted by Karen W.So the novice has to make do with NO real survival skills. When you say no survival skills, you mean he or she has no knowledge of fire building foraging for food or building shelters? I'd say he/she in quite a pickle! I wouldn't give em two weeks tops and I have no idea how to answer that question, I think I will just stand by for the answer as I am alredy drowning!!
quote:Originally posted by neilepWould nature allow the novice to acquire equal skills ?...over time ?...perhaps years ?
quote: I would ask, if someone who is marooned on such an island, is able to keep themselves alive for the first few months, what imperative would they have for developing a technology that was not required in their first few months on the island. The only argument for continually improving technology is if the island they live on has a continually changing environment that provides ever new challenges (now, there is an argument in favour of climate change).
quote:Originally posted by neilepI just would expect the necessity to capture the difficult foods would involve the creation of traps and then an alerting system perhaps.
quote:The necessity for shelter would lead to the nature of creating an abode...perhaps even a rudimentary plumbing system.
quote:The need to cultivate perhaps your own fruit and veg would mean learning about the soil and agriculture
quote:perhaps a method of defence too would be needed
quote:a way to alert passing ships that would not be deterred by inclement weather.
quote:Maybe a skill to not just create medical remedies but a way to test them and other chemicals so as to not poison yourself
quote:A way to provide heat other than just a fire...perhaps a central heating system
quote:Originally posted by neilepThe reason to cultivate, catch other foods, manufacture better living quarters is a necessity of change...the want to try something else...I would not want to live on the same foods for a period of many years. If an alternative tasty treat was available then I would find the need to invent a way to capture it...not out of necessity for survival but out of necessity for a change !
quote:I think the necessity to not remain stagnant is imperative.
quote:The ability to create an alerting system for passing ships may not be an ongoing affair but it may take a lot of time to perfect it.
quote:...over many many years a change of abode will not necessarily be needed...but may be wanted....
quote:I would not want to live in an arrested culture of my own making if I was the inhabitant of this island...I would want to change, and add spice and variety to my way of life.
quote:Originally posted by neilepOf course you can farm something new....like I said...from a seed that may be found from a plant that is not nearby...say you lived on this island and all of a sudden a pomegranate was washed ashore....before consuming it..I might feel compelled to keep some seeds and grow some of my own !!....so there !!!
quote:I personally would not want to remain stagnant...this is my case for improving my hut...catching tastier food and making my life on my island more comfortable than it was yesterday.........of course...should one wish to remain still then go right ahead.....it was my opinion and I stick by it...
quote:Yes....there are may cultures that remain arrested and are successful in being that....but they are small and uninvolved...isolated and a minority.
quote:No...for me...the way is FORWARD not HALT .
quote:That is a reasonable point about my house being in London...as opposed to the island being my home....it does not necessarily mean that I still would not want to improve my dwelling. Yes, I may just simply knock it down and build another but I think I would like to improve it...redesign it. Honestly George...I have to put my Home Cinema system somewhere don't I ?
quote:I think there can be a society of one !...a very personal society where the culture is one of my own making....however..I wonder if I would see myself as an extension of the society I came from hmmmm. Still a cultural society of one seems plausible to me.